Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-23 Thread Anders Wallin
 Hi Anders,
 Do you have the link for the forked  currently developed version? Thanks!
 Playing with PyCam right now. Seems to come a long ways since I last played 
 with it.

There's a group of projects on github.
https://github.com/Heeks
They will differ, more or less, from the corresponding ones on googlecode...
For getting g-code and machining done _now_, HeeksCAD/CNC, with
possible python mods/hacks, may be the better choice. For the
_long_term_ FreeCAD may be the better choice, but generating
toolpaths+g-code is very hackish right now afaik.
FreeCAD uses OpenCascade+Qt, while HeeksCAD is OpenCascade+Wx. So in
theory most HeeksCNC work should transfer over easily.
There's a FreeCAD forum at http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/free-cad/
 , but I'm not very good at following forums myself so I'm not sure if
there's much CAM discussion there..

Anders

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Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-22 Thread Jeshua Lacock

On Mar 21, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Anders Wallin wrote:

 I haven't had time to run my machine in quite sometime, but, HeeksCAD is was 
 what I used last time I needed to make some simple tool paths.
 When I looked at the current state of Heeks yesterday, it seemed like the 
 author was recommending FreeCAD:
 I don't have time to administer HeeksCAD properly and I suggest for a more 
 active project you look at FreeCAD.
 http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/
 
 My understanding is that Dan Heeks wanted to work on the google-code
 version himself, whenever he has time - he may be busy with other
 projects. The version of HeeksCAD/CNC on github was forkeddeveloped
 by a number of users, but that momentum seems to have been lost now.

Hi Anders,

Do you have the link for the forked  currently developed version? Thanks!

Playing with PyCam right now. Seems to come a long ways since I last played 
with it.


Best,

Jeshua Lacock
Founder/Engineer
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http://3DTOPO.com
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[Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-21 Thread Jeshua Lacock

Greetings,

I have been trying to find a decent open source CAD and CAM solution.

FreeCAD looks very promising and it appears that Dan Falck got opencamlib at 
least crudely working with it.

Is any one using FreeCAD/opencamlib to make any actual cuts?

Other than that, can anyone recommend a simple open source solution for 
generating G-code? If not open source, how about it at least run on Ubuntu 
10.04?

I appreciate all comments and suggestions!


Thanks,

Jeshua Lacock
Founder/Engineer
3DTOPO Incorporated
http://3DTOPO.com
Phone: 208.462.4171


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Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-21 Thread Ray Mitchell
Have you looked at HeeksCAD/CAM?
heeks.net

Ray

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote:


 Greetings,

 I have been trying to find a decent open source CAD and CAM solution.

 FreeCAD looks very promising and it appears that Dan Falck got opencamlib
 at least crudely working with it.

 Is any one using FreeCAD/opencamlib to make any actual cuts?

 Other than that, can anyone recommend a simple open source solution for
 generating G-code? If not open source, how about it at least run on Ubuntu
 10.04?

 I appreciate all comments and suggestions!


 Thanks,

 Jeshua Lacock
 Founder/Engineer
 3DTOPO Incorporated
 http://3DTOPO.com
 Phone: 208.462.4171



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Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-21 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:50 , Jeshua Lacock wrote:

 Greetings,
 
 I have been trying to find a decent open source CAD and CAM solution.
 
 FreeCAD looks very promising and it appears that Dan Falck got opencamlib at 
 least crudely working with it.
 
 Is any one using FreeCAD/opencamlib to make any actual cuts?
 
 Other than that, can anyone recommend a simple open source solution for 
 generating G-code? If not open source, how about it at least run on Ubuntu 
 10.04?
 
 I appreciate all comments and suggestions!


I've made parts with FreeCAD and PyCAM.  FreeCAD is pretty great, PyCAM still 
has a ways to go.

If you are going to use PyCAM, clone their git repo on Sourceforge, don't use 
their latest published deb, it's out of date. 

I feel sanguine about Dan Falck's FreeCAD + OpenCamLib. 




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Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-21 Thread dave
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:50:34 -0600
Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote:

 
 Greetings,
 
 I have been trying to find a decent open source CAD and CAM solution.
 
 FreeCAD looks very promising and it appears that Dan Falck got
 opencamlib at least crudely working with it.
 
 Is any one using FreeCAD/opencamlib to make any actual cuts?
 
 Other than that, can anyone recommend a simple open source solution
 for generating G-code? If not open source, how about it at least run
 on Ubuntu 10.04?
 
 I appreciate all comments and suggestions!

I think Dan is off using HeeksCAD as the easiest free solution. 

On the $$ side I use synergy from weber systems. The drafting is free,
cam for 2.5 D is $250. IIRC, wireframe is $750 and full solids
(parasolids) is $1250. The learning curve is interesting but possible
even for a dummy like me. Google 'synergy cad' to get a web site.
They have a 30 day trial of the full meal deal. 

On the non-$$ side I'm trying to learn APT; both for mental exercise
and as a practical tool. 

Dave
 
 
 Thanks,
 
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 Founder/Engineer
 3DTOPO Incorporated
 http://3DTOPO.com
 Phone: 208.462.4171
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-21 Thread Jeshua Lacock

On Mar 21, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Ray Mitchell wrote:

 Have you looked at HeeksCAD/CAM?
 heeks.net

Hi Ray,

I haven't had time to run my machine in quite sometime, but, HeeksCAD is was 
what I used last time I needed to make some simple tool paths.

When I looked at the current state of Heeks yesterday, it seemed like the 
author was recommending FreeCAD:

I don't have time to administer HeeksCAD properly and I suggest for a more 
active project you look at FreeCAD.

http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/

Apparently, Dan Falck got opencamlib running in FreeCAD. I understand that 
opencamlib  is essentially what powers G-code creation in Heeks:

http://opensourcedesigntools.blogspot.com/


Best,

Jeshua Lacock
Founder/Engineer
3DTOPO Incorporated
http://3DTOPO.com
Phone: 208.462.4171


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Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-21 Thread Jeshua Lacock

On Mar 21, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote:

 On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:50 , Jeshua Lacock wrote:
 
 Greetings,
 
 I have been trying to find a decent open source CAD and CAM solution.
 
 FreeCAD looks very promising and it appears that Dan Falck got opencamlib at 
 least crudely working with it.
 
 Is any one using FreeCAD/opencamlib to make any actual cuts?
 
 Other than that, can anyone recommend a simple open source solution for 
 generating G-code? If not open source, how about it at least run on Ubuntu 
 10.04?
 
 I appreciate all comments and suggestions!
 
 
 I've made parts with FreeCAD and PyCAM.  FreeCAD is pretty great, PyCAM still 
 has a ways to go.
 
 If you are going to use PyCAM, clone their git repo on Sourceforge, don't use 
 their latest published deb, it's out of date. 
 
 I feel sanguine about Dan Falck's FreeCAD + OpenCamLib. 

Thanks Sebastian.

I had forgot about PyCAM - it looked promising last time I gave it a shot, but 
IIRC it was crashing last time I tried it. Will give her a whirl.


Best,

Jeshua Lacock
Founder/Engineer
3DTOPO Incorporated
http://3DTOPO.com
Phone: 208.462.4171


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Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-21 Thread Jeshua Lacock

On Mar 21, 2012, at 1:24 PM, dave wrote:

 I have been trying to find a decent open source CAD and CAM solution.
 
 FreeCAD looks very promising and it appears that Dan Falck got
 opencamlib at least crudely working with it.
 
 Is any one using FreeCAD/opencamlib to make any actual cuts?
 
 Other than that, can anyone recommend a simple open source solution
 for generating G-code? If not open source, how about it at least run
 on Ubuntu 10.04?
 
 I appreciate all comments and suggestions!
 
 I think Dan is off using HeeksCAD as the easiest free solution. 
 
 On the $$ side I use synergy from weber systems. The drafting is free,
 cam for 2.5 D is $250. IIRC, wireframe is $750 and full solids
 (parasolids) is $1250. The learning curve is interesting but possible
 even for a dummy like me. Google 'synergy cad' to get a web site.
 They have a 30 day trial of the full meal deal. 
 
 On the non-$$ side I'm trying to learn APT; both for mental exercise
 and as a practical tool. 

Thanks for the suggestions Dave.

I could live with $250 but I ultimately need some solids.

So PyCAM, HeeksCAD and opencamlib that is pretty much all the open source CAM? 
Seems surprising.

Is there any decent 3D CAM on Windows for a few hundred then?


Best,

Jeshua Lacock
Founder/Engineer
3DTOPO Incorporated
http://3DTOPO.com
Phone: 208.462.4171


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Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-21 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On Mar 21, 2012, at 13:59 , Jeshua Lacock wrote:

 Is there any decent 3D CAM on Windows for a few hundred then?


A friend speaks highly of Cam Bam (which is closed source, costs money, and 
runs on Windows).  I've never used it, but I've run its gcode on LinuxCNC and 
that worked well.


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Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-21 Thread Anders Wallin
 Have you looked at HeeksCAD/CAM?
 heeks.net
 Hi Ray,
 I haven't had time to run my machine in quite sometime, but, HeeksCAD is was 
 what I used last time I needed to make some simple tool paths.
 When I looked at the current state of Heeks yesterday, it seemed like the 
 author was recommending FreeCAD:
 I don't have time to administer HeeksCAD properly and I suggest for a more 
 active project you look at FreeCAD.
 http://code.google.com/p/heekscad/

My understanding is that Dan Heeks wanted to work on the google-code
version himself, whenever he has time - he may be busy with other
projects. The version of HeeksCAD/CNC on github was forkeddeveloped
by a number of users, but that momentum seems to have been lost now.

 Apparently, Dan Falck got opencamlib running in FreeCAD. I understand that 
 opencamlib  is essentially what powers G-code creation in Heeks:
 http://opensourcedesigntools.blogspot.com/

I think Dan Falck ran some python-scripts on STL-files offline, and
then just imported the original STL file together with the toolpath
into FreeCAD.
There are no 2D operations in opencamlib, so any 2/2.5D operations in
HeeksCNC use something else. Libarea is used for 2D offsets.
I've been tinkering with a 2D voronoi-diagram implementation called
OpenVoronoi which can eventually be used for a number of 2D
operations.

It would be great if someone would work out how to export triangles
(3D) and/or lines/polylines/arcs (2D) from FreeCAD into python (where
opencalib, openvoronoi, and libarea can be used), and then how
toolpaths produced by the libraries can be pushed back into FreeCAD as
new geometry. Dan F seems to have made some progress in this
direction.

Anders

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Re: [Emc-users] CAM / G-code Generation

2012-03-21 Thread Ian McMahon
Just to throw my two cents in, in addition to there being very few cam 
solutions, there are even fewer that do lathe profiling.  The ones that do, 
it's listed as experimental or seems thrown in.

Ian 



On Mar 21, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Greg Bernard wrote:

 What sort of work are you planning to do? In the Windoze world there is 
 CamBam (about $150 for the latest version, free for the old but still usable 
 version) I could not get it to  run under Wine. I just recently bought 
 Vectric V-carve Pro which runs well on Wine. It will do any 2.5 D work and is 
 excellent for artistic type stuff.  I am VERY pleased with it. Price is $599. 
 They also have Aspire which does full 3d but is out of my price range at 
 $2000. It is a very nice piece of software however. 
 
 
 
 
 
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 On Mar 21, 2012, at 1:24 PM, dave wrote:
 
 I have been trying to find a decent open source CAD and CAM solution.
 
 FreeCAD looks very promising and it appears that Dan Falck got
 opencamlib at least crudely working with it.
 
 Is any one using FreeCAD/opencamlib to make any actual cuts?
 
 Other than that, can anyone recommend a simple open source solution
 for generating G-code? If not open source, how about it at least run
 on Ubuntu 10.04?
 
 I appreciate all comments and suggestions!
 
 I think Dan is off using HeeksCAD as the easiest free solution. 
 
 On the $$ side I use synergy from weber systems. The drafting is free,
 cam for 2.5 D is $250. IIRC, wireframe is $750 and full solids
 (parasolids) is $1250. The learning curve is interesting but possible
 even for a dummy like me. Google 'synergy cad' to get a web site.
 They have a 30 day trial of the full meal deal. 
 
 On the non-$$ side I'm trying to learn APT; both for mental exercise
 and as a practical tool. 
 
 Thanks for the suggestions Dave.
 
 I could live with $250 but I ultimately need some solids.
 
 So PyCAM, HeeksCAD and opencamlib that is pretty much all the open source 
 CAM? Seems surprising.
 
 Is there any decent 3D CAM on Windows for a few hundred then?
 
 
 Best,
 
 Jeshua Lacock
 Founder/Engineer
 3DTOPO Incorporated
 http://3DTOPO.com
 Phone: 208.462.4171
 
 
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