Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:25 -0500, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: James Louis wrote: This past CNC Workshop in Ann Arbor, Michigan had a small touchscreen EMC2 controller on display at the Pico Systems booth. It used an interface called Touchy and might be just what you're looking for, but it is not released yet. I liked it a lot. Not really all there yet. There are apparently about 5 touch screens that have been set up for the Beagle Board, most of them cost more than the Beagle. There is no real time RTAI package yet for the Beagle board, hopefully soon. Then, EMC2 has to be ported to the Beagle, hopefully that will not be a big deal, but it is a different architecture (non-X86) so there could be surprises. Jon's reply is confusing. The original question had nothing to do with the Beagle board - it was simply about touchscreens and the Touchy GUI for EMC. Touchy is working, available, and released as a standard part of EMC version 2.4 (the current version). John Kasunich -- John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?
John Kasunich wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:25 -0500, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: James Louis wrote: This past CNC Workshop in Ann Arbor, Michigan had a small touchscreen EMC2 controller on display at the Pico Systems booth. It used an interface called Touchy and might be just what you're looking for, but it is not released yet. I liked it a lot. Not really all there yet. There are apparently about 5 touch screens that have been set up for the Beagle Board, most of them cost more than the Beagle. There is no real time RTAI package yet for the Beagle board, hopefully soon. Then, EMC2 has to be ported to the Beagle, hopefully that will not be a big deal, but it is a different architecture (non-X86) so there could be surprises. Jon's reply is confusing. The original question had nothing to do with the Beagle board - it was simply about touchscreens and the Touchy GUI for EMC. Touchy is working, available, and released as a standard part of EMC version 2.4 (the current version). OK, my reply didn't include all the history, as I have been working with James on a project of theirs. It was supposed to have a Beagle Board, but due to the delays in getting RTAI on the OMAP ARM architecture, we are now looking at using an Atom board. This is about the same price, but 10 X the volume and requires some additional pieces to be integrated (Beagle has an SD card slot and integral memory, Atom requires memory cards and hopefully can boot off USB memory stick). The Atom is also literally 10 X the power of the Beagle (~30 W vs 3 W). But, we could build an Atom-based system today, with no porting effort. So, all that context made my reply a LOT more specific than it might have been. I don't consider the Gateway Profile 3 with a magic Touch panel to be small in the context of this project. We were hoping to make a 2-3 axis CNC control that you could literally hold in one hand while poking the touch screen with your other hand. This isn't going to be possible with the Atom, but it can still be pretty small. Certainly, Touchy is not at all the development hurdle, and I was not in any way trying to imply that! The hurdle is all about the Beagle Board, and that really has no bearing on EMC2. Porting to a different hardware architecture is always a major effort, and is not really necessary as long as suitable motherboards with parallel ports are available. Jon -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?
I'm looking at trying to build a homebrew version of a dedicated controller with an integrated keyboard, MPG, and touchscreen. On the touchscreens, I've been looking at some of the 7-8 units originally made for in-dash DVD players, Lilliput seems to be a common name for the hardware and I've read about touchkit as being the main driver for using these 4/5-wire resistive-interface screens with Ubuntu. There seems to be a choice of serial and USB interfaces. Before I go out and buy a bunch of hardware that doesn't play well, does anyone have any words of wisdom on what I should or shouldn't look at? For reference, this is the sort of unit I'm thinking about: http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-EBY701-NP-C-T-7-VGA-Touch-Screen-1-Year-Warr-/300444259217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 * And yes, I realize a 7 screen will have lower resolution than my iPhone 4... I'm looking to build a panel with illuminated modal switches and generally see about moving some stuff off the screen. -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?
Just wanted to mention an alternative, since you have an iPhone. There's a great app available for iPhone called touchOSC. It was built for using the iPhone as a controller for musical devices, such as synthesizers, drum machines, samplers, etc. It comes with a bunch of inbuilt control panels, as well as the ability to define your own control panels. I have a plan to use it to control my laser machine, which runs with EMC. I have some prototype code to receive the UI events from touchOSC, but have not integrated anything into EMC yet. There's a public domain C library that is widely used for sending and receiving OSC protocol, called liblo and that what I'm using initially. Ultimately, my laser application will be written in Common Lisp, so I will probably abandon liblo in favor of a lisp library. Anyway, for controlling music devices, it works very well. I have no doubt that it will also work for some EMC systems, depending on the particular needs. Neil On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Colin Kingsbury ckingsb...@gmail.comwrote: I'm looking at trying to build a homebrew version of a dedicated controller with an integrated keyboard, MPG, and touchscreen. On the touchscreens, I've been looking at some of the 7-8 units originally made for in-dash DVD players, Lilliput seems to be a common name for the hardware and I've read about touchkit as being the main driver for using these 4/5-wire resistive-interface screens with Ubuntu. There seems to be a choice of serial and USB interfaces. Before I go out and buy a bunch of hardware that doesn't play well, does anyone have any words of wisdom on what I should or shouldn't look at? For reference, this is the sort of unit I'm thinking about: http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-EBY701-NP-C-T-7-VGA-Touch-Screen-1-Year-Warr-/300444259217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 * And yes, I realize a 7 screen will have lower resolution than my iPhone 4... I'm looking to build a panel with illuminated modal switches and generally see about moving some stuff off the screen. -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- http://www.pixpopuli.com -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?
This past CNC Workshop in Ann Arbor, Michigan had a small touchscreen EMC2 controller on display at the Pico Systems booth. It used an interface called Touchy and might be just what you're looking for, but it is not released yet. I liked it a lot. Jim -Original Message- From: Neil Baylis [mailto:neil.bay...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 2:53 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens? Just wanted to mention an alternative, since you have an iPhone. There's a great app available for iPhone called touchOSC. It was built for using the iPhone as a controller for musical devices, such as synthesizers, drum machines, samplers, etc. It comes with a bunch of inbuilt control panels, as well as the ability to define your own control panels. I have a plan to use it to control my laser machine, which runs with EMC. I have some prototype code to receive the UI events from touchOSC, but have not integrated anything into EMC yet. There's a public domain C library that is widely used for sending and receiving OSC protocol, called liblo and that what I'm using initially. Ultimately, my laser application will be written in Common Lisp, so I will probably abandon liblo in favor of a lisp library. Anyway, for controlling music devices, it works very well. I have no doubt that it will also work for some EMC systems, depending on the particular needs. Neil On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Colin Kingsbury ckingsb...@gmail.comwrote: I'm looking at trying to build a homebrew version of a dedicated controller with an integrated keyboard, MPG, and touchscreen. On the touchscreens, I've been looking at some of the 7-8 units originally made for in-dash DVD players, Lilliput seems to be a common name for the hardware and I've read about touchkit as being the main driver for using these 4/5-wire resistive-interface screens with Ubuntu. There seems to be a choice of serial and USB interfaces. Before I go out and buy a bunch of hardware that doesn't play well, does anyone have any words of wisdom on what I should or shouldn't look at? For reference, this is the sort of unit I'm thinking about: http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-EBY701-NP-C-T-7-VGA-Touch-Screen-1-Year-Warr-/300444259217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 * And yes, I realize a 7 screen will have lower resolution than my iPhone 4... I'm looking to build a panel with illuminated modal switches and generally see about moving some stuff off the screen. -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- http://www.pixpopuli.com -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users This communication is for the use of the intended recipient only. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, the disclosure, copying, distribution or use hereof is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please advise me by return e-mail or by telephone and then delete it immediately. -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 03:21:19PM -0500, James Louis wrote: This past CNC Workshop in Ann Arbor, Michigan had a small touchscreen EMC2 controller on display at the Pico Systems booth. It used an interface called Touchy and might be just what you're looking for, but it is not released yet. Yes it is. It's in 2.4. I liked it a lot. Good to hear! -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?
James Louis wrote: This past CNC Workshop in Ann Arbor, Michigan had a small touchscreen EMC2 controller on display at the Pico Systems booth. It used an interface called Touchy and might be just what you're looking for, but it is not released yet. I liked it a lot. Not really all there yet. There are apparently about 5 touch screens that have been set up for the Beagle Board, most of them cost more than the Beagle. There is no real time RTAI package yet for the Beagle board, hopefully soon. Then, EMC2 has to be ported to the Beagle, hopefully that will not be a big deal, but it is a different architecture (non-X86) so there could be surprises. I DID have touchy running on an old Gateway Profile 3 computer with a glass-plate touch screen taped to the front. The Keytec Magic Touch touch panels are Linux-compatible and can be put on any computer with an available serial port. The Profile 3 is an all-in-one computer, basically a laptop without the keyboard, the main board, hard drive, etc. all fits behind the LCD screen. This is a great package for installing inside a big machine pendant, you just clamp it where the old CRT went. The Profile 3 can be had with up to 1 GHz Pentium CPU, and the parallel port is totally compatible. USB, PC card slots and Ethernet are standard. There are later versions of the Gateway Profile line, some of these have the works in a big block in the base, not as good for big pendant retrofits. Jon -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?
You need to go to the manufacturer's website to see if they have a Linux driver for their particular touch screen. X does support some touch screens natively, Microtouch and ELO etc.. It's hit or miss with some of these imports. And I don't see anything specific about drivers on lilliput's website. Email them and ask them if they have a driver for linux or if they emulate ELO or Microtouch protocol. -Original Message- From: Colin Kingsbury [mailto:ckingsb...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 3:27 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens? I'm looking at trying to build a homebrew version of a dedicated controller with an integrated keyboard, MPG, and touchscreen. On the touchscreens, I've been looking at some of the 7-8 units originally made for in-dash DVD players, Lilliput seems to be a common name for the hardware and I've read about touchkit as being the main driver for using these 4/5-wire resistive-interface screens with Ubuntu. There seems to be a choice of serial and USB interfaces. Before I go out and buy a bunch of hardware that doesn't play well, does anyone have any words of wisdom on what I should or shouldn't look at? For reference, this is the sort of unit I'm thinking about: http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-EBY701-NP-C-T-7-VGA-Touch-Screen-1-Year-Warr-/3 00444259217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 * And yes, I realize a 7 screen will have lower resolution than my iPhone 4... I'm looking to build a panel with illuminated modal switches and generally see about moving some stuff off the screen. -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens?
Here's a 7 touch screen that does work in Linux http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12561 And here is how you make it work http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:kiddshoptouchscreenunderxandros -Original Message- From: Colin Kingsbury [mailto:ckingsb...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 3:27 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Compatibility with small touchscreens? I'm looking at trying to build a homebrew version of a dedicated controller with an integrated keyboard, MPG, and touchscreen. On the touchscreens, I've been looking at some of the 7-8 units originally made for in-dash DVD players, Lilliput seems to be a common name for the hardware and I've read about touchkit as being the main driver for using these 4/5-wire resistive-interface screens with Ubuntu. There seems to be a choice of serial and USB interfaces. Before I go out and buy a bunch of hardware that doesn't play well, does anyone have any words of wisdom on what I should or shouldn't look at? For reference, this is the sort of unit I'm thinking about: http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-EBY701-NP-C-T-7-VGA-Touch-Screen-1-Year-Warr-/3 00444259217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 * And yes, I realize a 7 screen will have lower resolution than my iPhone 4... I'm looking to build a panel with illuminated modal switches and generally see about moving some stuff off the screen. -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
