Re: [Emc-users] Decompiling PLC file

2008-03-10 Thread John Thornton
No problem Dale. 

BTW, what is being controlled by the PLC now?

John

On 10 Mar 2008 at 6:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John,
   I will make the list in the next 2 or 3 weeks. By then I will finish
   reading HAL/Classic Ladder and then start the PLC program. If I have
   problems can I get some help from you? Thank you for the assistance
   Dale



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Re: [Emc-users] Decompiling PLC file

2008-03-09 Thread John Thornton
Dale, In most cases it is better just to write new ladder than to try and port 
from one 
system to another. I've been programming PLC's for longer than I can remember. 
I 
can assist if needed. 

Basicly you need three things:
1 List of inputs
2 List of outputs
3 List of what you want to happen when an input gets triggered.
Start with a pseudo list of what happens kinda like this:
When start is pressed (input 1) 
if is safety circuit is closed(input 2)
if stop is not pressed(input 3)
start motor (output 1)

Big John T


On 8 Mar 2008 at 22:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello All,
 
   Does anyone have the knowledge and/or software to decompile the PAL
   (Programmable Application Logic) files from an Allen Bradley 8400MP
   CNC control? 
 
   I have the 2 files from the Hi and Low EPROMs. They were saved as
   Hex, ASCI, and BIN files.
 
   The data from these files would be a good starting place for
   developing a Classic Ladder file now that I am upgrading my machine
   to EMC2.  I have ordered a Motenc board.
 
   Thank you
   Dale Ertley



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Re: [Emc-users] Decompiling PLC file

2008-03-09 Thread Dale Ertley
John,
  I will make the list in the next 2 or 3 weeks. By then I will finish reading 
HAL/Classic Ladder and then start the PLC program. If I have problems can I get 
some help from you? 
  Thank you for the assistance
  Dale

John Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dale, In most cases it is better just to write new ladder than to try and 
port from one 
system to another. I've been programming PLC's for longer than I can remember. 
I 
can assist if needed. 

Basicly you need three things:
1 List of inputs
2 List of outputs
3 List of what you want to happen when an input gets triggered.
Start with a pseudo list of what happens kinda like this:
When start is pressed (input 1) 
if is safety circuit is closed(input 2)
if stop is not pressed(input 3)
start motor (output 1)

Big John T


On 8 Mar 2008 at 22:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 Does anyone have the knowledge and/or software to decompile the PAL
 (Programmable Application Logic) files from an Allen Bradley 8400MP
 CNC control? 
 
 I have the 2 files from the Hi and Low EPROMs. They were saved as
 Hex, ASCI, and BIN files.
 
 The data from these files would be a good starting place for
 developing a Classic Ladder file now that I am upgrading my machine
 to EMC2. I have ordered a Motenc board.
 
 Thank you
 Dale Ertley



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[Emc-users] Decompiling PLC file

2008-03-08 Thread Dale Ertley
Hello All,
   
  Does anyone have the knowledge and/or software to decompile the PAL 
(Programmable Application Logic) files from an Allen Bradley 8400MP CNC 
control? 
   
  I have the 2 files from the Hi and Low EPROMs. They were saved as Hex, ASCI, 
and BIN files.
   
  The data from these files would be a good starting place for developing a 
Classic Ladder file now that I am upgrading my machine to EMC2.  I have ordered 
a Motenc board.
   
  Thank you
  Dale Ertley
   

   
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Re: [Emc-users] Decompiling PLC file

2008-03-08 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2008-03-08 at 09:03 -0800, Dale Ertley wrote:
 Hello All,  Does anyone have the knowledge and/or software to
 decompile
  the PAL (Programmable Application Logic) files from an Allen Bradley
   8400MP CNC control?   I have the 2 files from the Hi and Low EPROMs.
  They were saved as Hex, ASCI, and BIN files.  The data from these
   files would be a good starting place for developing a Classic Ladder
  file now that I am upgrading my machine to EMC2.  I have ordered a
   Motenc board.  Thank you Dale Ertley

What kind of machine are you converting? If the mechanics are not that 
complicated, I wonder if you would be better off starting from scratch. 
Sometimes a machine will have a number of separate simple systems that 
only look complicated if viewed as a whole. To me, it sounds like 
decompiling ROMs is complicated from the start.

-- 
Kirk Wallace (California, USA
http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ 
Hardinge HNC lathe,
Bridgeport mill conversion, doing XY now,
Zubal lathe conversion pending)


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