Re: [Emc-users] Erik Chrstiansen, the Aussie?

[Robert Murphy]

I wouldn’t trust those overlay maps, one of those shown by ABC America had 
parts of Central Australia on fire, which truth be told is just sand and a lot 
of Very Hot. If it was flammable the Black Fellas would have set on fire 50k 
years ago or however long they have been here.
The facts for the 3 Eastern states are.
Victoria: they have had much worse in the past
Queensland: As per Victoria
NSW: About the largest area burnt

On a more serious note 3 Americans lost their lives when one of planes used to 
quell the fires went down, a bunch of young blokes in their 40’s. No reason for 
the crash yet, that will take a while to sort out.
Rest In Peace, and our sympathies to their families. 

Composed with my Crayons 

> On 24 Jan 2020, at 23:13, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> 
>> On Friday 24 January 2020 05:16:48 Erik Christiansen wrote:
>> 
>>> On 18.01.20 00:08, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> With all the fires down under, he hasn't posted since 12 October.
>>> 
>>> Wondering if he and his new place is ok?
>> 
>> Many thanks, Gene, for the thoughts. (I only come back to town, and
>> the internet two weekends per month, while trying to push the build
>> along - insulating, then painting in Nov/Dec.)
>> 
>> So far, the only strife at the farm is choking smoke when the wind's
>> in the wrong direction - but that is also colouring New Zealand
>> glaciers and making the sky grey in Chile, so it's pretty useless to
>> bitch when I'm only 60 km from the western edge of the big patch (1.4
>> million hectares (3.5 million acres¹) of fires around Mallacoota,
>> Sarsfield, etc. (I am a bit stiff from putting in 150 m of 40 mm poly
>> pipe for a fire main with hydrants at the building corners, and a
>> demountable petrol driven fire pump, so it's harder to pinch. I've
>> bought a Grundfos electric variable speed boost pump for domestic
>> supply from 21,000 gallons of tanks (when they're filled - arrived
>> yesterday, just _after_ we had over 100 mm of rain in 2 days, a third
>> of what we had all last year, or the year before. The electric pump
>> can be cranked up to 62m head, hopefully enough for standing off hours
>> of ember attack prior to fire arrival. I'm adding a valve so it can
>> feed the fire main instead of the house. A fire fighting pump must
>> have continuous flow to keep it cool, which is not good with a finite
>> water supply, but the electric one shuts down when you close off the
>> nozzle on the fire hose. We'll see how it works out.)
>> 
>> Even several weeks after the fire peak, the only way through on the
>> only highway between the east of Victoria and the rest of the state is
>> with the military in Bushmaster armoured cars, as the clearing of
>> fallen and dangerous trees is ongoing. An escorted convoy was allowed
>> out to the north, into New South Wales, then back via Canberra for
>> those wanting back to Victoria - a helluva drive.
>> 
>> Today we lost a 3-man retardant-bombing crew from USA when a C130 went
>> in.
> 
> Ouch. My sympathies for the mens families. I'm reading of quite a few in 
> the entertainment business here who have collectively donated quite a 
> few millions to the firefighting efforts.  Probably just a drop in the 
> bucket compared to whats needed though. 
> 
>> Quite a few firefighters have given their all and then some this 
>> season, one when a fire tornado flipped an 8 tonne firetruck onto its
>> roof. I think we have about a hundred really experienced American
>> firefighters here to rotate with our strike team leaders and managers.
> 
>> The glorious rain didn't put the fires out, but it really reduces the
>> rate of spread.
>> 
>> Much of the burnt country is forest, but there's a lot of stock with
>> nothing but charcoal and ash to eat, so there's a lot of stock feed
>> going past our farm on the highway. I was in town on Saturday, and a
>> convoy of 30 semitrailers loaded to the gunwales with hay went east,
>> and at the petrol station they said another of 15 semitrailers had
>> gone through earlier in the day. A few days before I met a convoy of
>> 15 loads of donated hay. How much is going through the rest of the
>> time?
> I don't have a clue, but I don't imagine theres enough to keep it going 
> for long enough to save all the stock.
> 
>> The rain makes the rest of us at a distance much safer. Heck, for the
>> first time in a year, there's a foot of water in the bottom of the
>> best dam on the property,
> 
> Not much in the grand scheme of things.
> 
>> and there's green grass shooting up all 
>> over. If there's a bit of follow-up rain here and there, we could
>> start farming again. (The only animals on the place are kangaroos,
>> wallabies, and wombats, now. One of the latter started digging a 2
>> foot diameter burrow in the soft sand of the fill pad under the new
>> build. I've twice chased him across the paddock after midnight at 25
>> km/h in the ute, with headlights on high beam and honking the horn. I
>> didn't know they could run that fast on those stubby 

Re: [Emc-users] Erik Chrstiansen, the Aussie?

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 24 January 2020 05:16:48 Erik Christiansen wrote:

> On 18.01.20 00:08, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > With all the fires down under, he hasn't posted since 12 October.
> >
> > Wondering if he and his new place is ok?
>
> Many thanks, Gene, for the thoughts. (I only come back to town, and
> the internet two weekends per month, while trying to push the build
> along - insulating, then painting in Nov/Dec.)
>
> So far, the only strife at the farm is choking smoke when the wind's
> in the wrong direction - but that is also colouring New Zealand
> glaciers and making the sky grey in Chile, so it's pretty useless to
> bitch when I'm only 60 km from the western edge of the big patch (1.4
> million hectares (3.5 million acres¹) of fires around Mallacoota,
> Sarsfield, etc. (I am a bit stiff from putting in 150 m of 40 mm poly
> pipe for a fire main with hydrants at the building corners, and a
> demountable petrol driven fire pump, so it's harder to pinch. I've
> bought a Grundfos electric variable speed boost pump for domestic
> supply from 21,000 gallons of tanks (when they're filled - arrived
> yesterday, just _after_ we had over 100 mm of rain in 2 days, a third
> of what we had all last year, or the year before. The electric pump
> can be cranked up to 62m head, hopefully enough for standing off hours
> of ember attack prior to fire arrival. I'm adding a valve so it can
> feed the fire main instead of the house. A fire fighting pump must
> have continuous flow to keep it cool, which is not good with a finite
> water supply, but the electric one shuts down when you close off the
> nozzle on the fire hose. We'll see how it works out.)
>
> Even several weeks after the fire peak, the only way through on the
> only highway between the east of Victoria and the rest of the state is
> with the military in Bushmaster armoured cars, as the clearing of
> fallen and dangerous trees is ongoing. An escorted convoy was allowed
> out to the north, into New South Wales, then back via Canberra for
> those wanting back to Victoria - a helluva drive.
>
> Today we lost a 3-man retardant-bombing crew from USA when a C130 went
> in.

Ouch. My sympathies for the mens families. I'm reading of quite a few in 
the entertainment business here who have collectively donated quite a 
few millions to the firefighting efforts.  Probably just a drop in the 
bucket compared to whats needed though. 

> Quite a few firefighters have given their all and then some this 
> season, one when a fire tornado flipped an 8 tonne firetruck onto its
> roof. I think we have about a hundred really experienced American
> firefighters here to rotate with our strike team leaders and managers.

> The glorious rain didn't put the fires out, but it really reduces the
> rate of spread.
>
> Much of the burnt country is forest, but there's a lot of stock with
> nothing but charcoal and ash to eat, so there's a lot of stock feed
> going past our farm on the highway. I was in town on Saturday, and a
> convoy of 30 semitrailers loaded to the gunwales with hay went east,
> and at the petrol station they said another of 15 semitrailers had
> gone through earlier in the day. A few days before I met a convoy of
> 15 loads of donated hay. How much is going through the rest of the
> time?
I don't have a clue, but I don't imagine theres enough to keep it going 
for long enough to save all the stock.

> The rain makes the rest of us at a distance much safer. Heck, for the
> first time in a year, there's a foot of water in the bottom of the
> best dam on the property,

Not much in the grand scheme of things.

> and there's green grass shooting up all 
> over. If there's a bit of follow-up rain here and there, we could
> start farming again. (The only animals on the place are kangaroos,
> wallabies, and wombats, now. One of the latter started digging a 2
> foot diameter burrow in the soft sand of the fill pad under the new
> build. I've twice chased him across the paddock after midnight at 25
> km/h in the ute, with headlights on high beam and honking the horn. I
> didn't know they could run that fast on those stubby little legs.)
>
And I'm told you can't kill them for any reason.  Even if they are 
killing you.

> Erik
>
> ¹ Add in NSW and the other states, and the total is over 10 million
> hectares (25 million acres) nationally so far this season. Current
> estimates for the CO2 emissions is over 900 million tonnes. It's a
> climate disaster which doubles or triples our national emissions. (Not
> finished yet.)

We've had overlay maps published on the net here with the fire drawn to 
scale over the north american continent, which puts nearly 40% of our 
land mass under the areas of your fires. That gives us a very scary map 
of our climate future, and makes the Kalifornia fires look a backyard 
BBQ.

We've enough mature forest here in WV that we'd be gone in two weeks, 
burned to a crisp under those conditions.  And we've not had enough snow 
here, about an inch total so fa

Re: [Emc-users] Erik Chrstiansen, the Aussie?

[Erik Christiansen]

On 18.01.20 00:08, Gene Heskett wrote:
> With all the fires down under, he hasn't posted since 12 October.
> 
> Wondering if he and his new place is ok?


Many thanks, Gene, for the thoughts. (I only come back to town, and the
internet two weekends per month, while trying to push the build along -
insulating, then painting in Nov/Dec.)

So far, the only strife at the farm is choking smoke when the wind's
in the wrong direction - but that is also colouring New Zealand glaciers
and making the sky grey in Chile, so it's pretty useless to bitch when
I'm only 60 km from the western edge of the big patch (1.4 million
hectares (3.5 million acres¹) of fires around Mallacoota, Sarsfield, etc.
(I am a bit stiff from putting in 150 m of 40 mm poly pipe for a fire
main with hydrants at the building corners, and a demountable petrol
driven fire pump, so it's harder to pinch. I've bought a Grundfos
electric variable speed boost pump for domestic supply from 21,000
gallons of tanks (when they're filled - arrived yesterday, just _after_
we had over 100 mm of rain in 2 days, a third of what we had all last
year, or the year before. The electric pump can be cranked up to 62m
head, hopefully enough for standing off hours of ember attack prior to
fire arrival. I'm adding a valve so it can feed the fire main instead of
the house. A fire fighting pump must have continuous flow to keep it
cool, which is not good with a finite water supply, but the electric one
shuts down when you close off the nozzle on the fire hose. We'll see how
it works out.)

Even several weeks after the fire peak, the only way through on the only
highway between the east of Victoria and the rest of the state is with
the military in Bushmaster armoured cars, as the clearing of fallen and
dangerous trees is ongoing. An escorted convoy was allowed out to the
north, into New South Wales, then back via Canberra for those wanting
back to Victoria - a helluva drive.

Today we lost a 3-man retardant-bombing crew from USA when a C130 went in.
Quite a few firefighters have given their all and then some this season,
one when a fire tornado flipped an 8 tonne firetruck onto its roof.
I think we have about a hundred really experienced American firefighters
here to rotate with our strike team leaders and managers.

The glorious rain didn't put the fires out, but it really reduces the
rate of spread.

Much of the burnt country is forest, but there's a lot of stock with
nothing but charcoal and ash to eat, so there's a lot of stock feed
going past our farm on the highway. I was in town on Saturday, and a
convoy of 30 semitrailers loaded to the gunwales with hay went east, and
at the petrol station they said another of 15 semitrailers had gone through
earlier in the day. A few days before I met a convoy of 15 loads of
donated hay. How much is going through the rest of the time?

The rain makes the rest of us at a distance much safer. Heck, for the
first time in a year, there's a foot of water in the bottom of the best
dam on the property, and there's green grass shooting up all over. If
there's a bit of follow-up rain here and there, we could start farming
again. (The only animals on the place are kangaroos, wallabies, and
wombats, now. One of the latter started digging a 2 foot diameter burrow in
the soft sand of the fill pad under the new build. I've twice chased him
across the paddock after midnight at 25 km/h in the ute, with headlights
on high beam and honking the horn. I didn't know they could run that
fast on those stubby little legs.)

Erik

¹ Add in NSW and the other states, and the total is over 10 million
hectares (25 million acres) nationally so far this season. Current
estimates for the CO2 emissions is over 900 million tonnes. It's a
climate disaster which doubles or triples our national emissions. (Not
finished yet.)


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Re: [Emc-users] Erik Chrstiansen, the Aussie?

[Robert Murphy]

Fires shouldn’t be a problem for a bit, as usual we’ll be having floods soon.
Been raining most of the week, not too much but as sure as, it’ll be out of 
hand soon.

Composed with my Crayons 

> On 18 Jan 2020, at 16:08, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> 
> With all the fires down under, he hasn't posted since 12 October.
> 
> Wondering if he and his new place is ok?
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> -- 
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> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
> - Louis D. Brandeis
> Genes Web page 
> 
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[Emc-users] Erik Chrstiansen, the Aussie?

[Gene Heskett]

With all the fires down under, he hasn't posted since 12 October.

Wondering if he and his new place is ok?

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 


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