Re: [Emc-users] Output amplifier, DIN rail

2020-06-08 Thread N
> On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 18:15, N  wrote:
> 
> > >
> > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zerone-Solid-State-Mounting-Screws/dp/B083BXCQFN
> >
> > A little bit stingy for this one right now, maybe also good for cooling
> > screwed in back plate.
> >
> > They are available for a fraction of that price if you can wait for the
> slow boat from China.
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32971006524.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1b034b8az60T9k
> Which is why I bought lots of them.
> 
> These also look like a very useful unit,
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32361079618.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5b3a2bf3mcvXyh
> 
> There are DA and DD variants for AC and DC, and that is the "P" for
> high-side control.
> Previously I have not been able to find the DD variant in P , partly
> because you mainly find underwear.

Sold some wood, plenty of it here and the money is needed for these. Guess this 
is they way international trade work.


___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users


Re: [Emc-users] Output amplifier, DIN rail

2020-06-08 Thread N
> On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 18:15, N  wrote:
> 
> > >
> > https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zerone-Solid-State-Mounting-Screws/dp/B083BXCQFN
> >
> > A little bit stingy for this one right now, maybe also good for cooling
> > screwed in back plate.
> >
> > They are available for a fraction of that price if you can wait for the
> slow boat from China.
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32971006524.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1b034b8az60T9k
> Which is why I bought lots of them.

That's cheap.

> These also look like a very useful unit,
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32361079618.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5b3a2bf3mcvXyh

Without doubt, similar or same functionality as the modules I looked on, also 
cheap.

> There are DA and DD variants for AC and DC, and that is the "P" for
> high-side control.
> Previously I have not been able to find the DD variant in P , partly
> because you mainly find underwear.

Would expect the variant pulling to ground be slightly cheaper and better as if 
I remember NPN or N-MOS transistor is if I remember correctly is slightly 
cheap/better than the P variant, an extra transistor might also be needed. No 
big deal but it is slightly in wrong direction and usually work equally well 
pulling downwards.


Regards Nicklas Karlsson


___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users


Re: [Emc-users] Output amplifier, DIN rail

2020-06-08 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 18:15, N  wrote:

> >
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zerone-Solid-State-Mounting-Screws/dp/B083BXCQFN
>
> A little bit stingy for this one right now, maybe also good for cooling
> screwed in back plate.
>
> They are available for a fraction of that price if you can wait for the
slow boat from China.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32971006524.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1b034b8az60T9k
Which is why I bought lots of them.

These also look like a very useful unit,
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32361079618.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5b3a2bf3mcvXyh

There are DA and DD variants for AC and DC, and that is the "P" for
high-side control.
Previously I have not been able to find the DD variant in P , partly
because you mainly find underwear.

-- 
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912

___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users


Re: [Emc-users] Output amplifier, DIN rail

2020-06-08 Thread N
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 23:37:35 +0100
andy pugh  wrote:

> On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 23:00, N  wrote:
> 
> >
> > Output is 24V more or less standard for PLC or similar but the one above
> > for connection to Micro Controller.
> 
> 
> Maybe
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zerone-5-220VDC-Industrial-Automation-Process/dp/B0822S5FZJ

Yes this one should do it with good margin.

> And:
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zerone-Solid-State-Mounting-Screws/dp/B083BXCQFN

A little bit stingy for this one right now, maybe also good for cooling screwed 
in back plate.

> (Those SSR DIN clips are pretty good for generic DIN rail use. I have quite
> a stock of them now)

It is must be a handy part.


___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users


Re: [Emc-users] Output amplifier, DIN rail

2020-06-07 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 23:00, N  wrote:

>
> Output is 24V more or less standard for PLC or similar but the one above
> for connection to Micro Controller.


Maybe
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zerone-5-220VDC-Industrial-Automation-Process/dp/B0822S5FZJ
And:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zerone-Solid-State-Mounting-Screws/dp/B083BXCQFN

(Those SSR DIN clips are pretty good for generic DIN rail use. I have quite
a stock of them now)

-- 
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912

___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users


Re: [Emc-users] Output amplifier, DIN rail

2020-06-07 Thread N
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 22:17, N  wrote:
> 
> > > What are you amplifying? Can you use an SSR?
> >
> > 24 volt ouput signals, coil need slightly more than 1A, around 1.3A but
> > driver is not strong enough.
> >
> 
> Something like this maybe?
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/SeeKool-8-Channel-Control-Optocoupler-Raspberry/dp/B07D8RF6MK/
> 
> Though I would use a 7i64.

Output is 24V more or less standard for PLC or similar but the one above for 
connection to Micro Controller. I could simply use a transistor with a resistor 
on the base + a free wheel diode but a module is a better choice.


___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users


Re: [Emc-users] Output amplifier, DIN rail

2020-06-07 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 22:17, N  wrote:

> > What are you amplifying? Can you use an SSR?
>
> 24 volt ouput signals, coil need slightly more than 1A, around 1.3A but
> driver is not strong enough.
>

Something like this maybe?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/SeeKool-8-Channel-Control-Optocoupler-Raspberry/dp/B07D8RF6MK/

Though I would use a 7i64.

-- 
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912

___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users


Re: [Emc-users] Output amplifier, DIN rail

2020-06-07 Thread N
> On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 21:47, N  wrote:
> 
> > Outputs are a little bit week, need slightly more than one ampere. Chinese
> > have for PLC output amplifier but take weeks to get, anybody now about any
> > sold more locally at resellers like Farnell or similar?
> 
> 
> What are you amplifying? Can you use an SSR?

24 volt ouput signals, coil need slightly more than 1A, around 1.3A but driver 
is not strong enough. Chinese make PLC amplifier module for this purpose, they 
fit on DIN rail, really handy devices but take weeks to get.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32801056562.html?spm=2114.search0302.3.90.54db1d60xhGYMS_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_0,searchweb201603_0,ppcSwitch_0_pvid=bc99d82b-1e53-4878-ae9f-f2c3f1d63393_expid=bc99d82b-1e53-4878-ae9f-f2c3f1d63393-13

Sweden


___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users


Re: [Emc-users] Output amplifier, DIN rail

2020-06-07 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 21:47, N  wrote:

> Outputs are a little bit week, need slightly more than one ampere. Chinese
> have for PLC output amplifier but take weeks to get, anybody now about any
> sold more locally at resellers like Farnell or similar?


What are you amplifying? Can you use an SSR?

(And which country are you in?)

-- 
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912

___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users


[Emc-users] Output amplifier, DIN rail

2020-06-07 Thread N
Outputs are a little bit week, need slightly more than one ampere. Chinese have 
for PLC output amplifier but take weeks to get, anybody now about any sold more 
locally at resellers like Farnell or similar?


___
Emc-users mailing list
Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users