Re: [Emc-users] "run from here" mystery

[Viesturs Lācis]

2014-07-02 23:18 GMT+03:00 andy pugh :
> The alternative is to MDI the M03 then run-from-line

Definitely NO, because it is not a mill that can start spindle at
first and only then do rapid move to point, where it starts actual
machining. Waterjet is just like plasma - the nozzle/torch has to do
rapid move to position it at the start point of machining and only
then actually turn it on.

I suggested them to try "run from line" at M05 and then report back to
me, but have not received any feedback yet.

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Re: [Emc-users] "run from here" mystery

[Sebastian Kuzminsky]

On 7/2/14 14:18 , andy pugh wrote:
> On 2 July 2014 21:12, Viesturs Lācis  wrote:
>
>> That machine uses standard M03/M05 to start/stop the water jet.
>> There is M05 2 lines earlier, thanks for the suggestion, I will ask
>> them to try restarting from spindle-related line.
>
> The alternative is to MDI the M03 then run-from-line

Or (in Axis) hit F9 to start the spindle, then run-from-line.


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Re: [Emc-users] "run from here" mystery

[andy pugh]

On 2 July 2014 21:12, Viesturs Lācis  wrote:

> That machine uses standard M03/M05 to start/stop the water jet.
> There is M05 2 lines earlier, thanks for the suggestion, I will ask
> them to try restarting from spindle-related line.

The alternative is to MDI the M03 then run-from-line

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Re: [Emc-users] "run from here" mystery

[Viesturs Lācis]

2014-07-02 14:15 GMT+03:00 Rick Lair :
> We use Run From Line on a daily basis, and have found the best way to get
> things to run properly is to go back to most recent spindle start/tool
> call/operation start, and start from there. If he is starting from that line
> G00 X76,4500 Y467,8691, I don't see anything to start the water jet, which I
> would think would be similar to starting the spindle, and then linux has to
> see spindle at speed aka maybe "water jet on" or something then feed can
> begin.

That machine uses standard M03/M05 to start/stop the water jet.
There is M05 2 lines earlier, thanks for the suggestion, I will ask
them to try restarting from spindle-related line.

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Re: [Emc-users] "run from here" mystery

[Rick Lair]

We use Run From Line on a daily basis, and have found the best way to get
things to run properly is to go back to most recent spindle start/tool
call/operation start, and start from there. If he is starting from that line
G00 X76,4500 Y467,8691, I don't see anything to start the water jet, which I
would think would be similar to starting the spindle, and then linux has to
see spindle at speed aka maybe "water jet on" or something then feed can
begin. Here is a portion of one of our programs, in order for Run From Line
to work properly, the operator would need to start from line N480 or line
N610, depending on which part he is in, and it will start, then
automatically go to program pause (feed hold as we call it) then the
operator will un-pause it and it will start up and run fine from there. 


N440Z0.0505
N450G00X0.7974Z0.4705
N460X11.1374
N470X12.0Z8.0
N480M09
N490M01
N500G00X12.0Z8.0T1414 (T14 TURNING TOOL)
N510G97S150M03M42
N520G96S450M03D800
N530G00X11.1374Z0.0M08
N540G95
N550G01X10.9374F0.012
N560X-0.0626
N570Z0.4387
N580G00Z0.5387
N590X11.1374
N600X12.0Z8.0
N610M09
N620M01
N630G00X12.0Z8.0T1414 (T14 TURNING TOOL)
N640G97S150M03M42
N650G96S450M03D800
N660G00X10.4177Z0.0908M08
N670G95
N680G01Z-0.0092F0.012
N690X10.5817Z-0.0912
N700G00X10.7817
N710X12.0Z8.0
N720M09
N730M05
N740M30
%

I think what he is actually looking to do is something similar to Jog while
paused, so he could stop the machine, clean/un-clog the head and start back
up in the exact spot where he left off,



Thanks 

Rick









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Re: [Emc-users] "run from here" mystery

[jim]

Had similar problem years ago .
Had to go back in the gcode in order to reread  some of the modular codes.
At this point I don't remember which ones.
Jim

On 14-07-02 05:20 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 July 2014 04:44:28 Gene Heskett did opine
> And Gene did reply:
>> On Wednesday 02 July 2014 03:32:35 Viesturs Lؤپcis did opine
>>
>> And Gene did reply:
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I would like to ask, if somebody could share some hints, why my
>>> client can't restart execution of g-code file from middle of the
>>> file with "run from here" - that is a waterjet machine and they
>>> frequently stop the machine, if abrasive gets jammed etc. and then
>>> restart
>>> approximately from the place they stopped with "run from here".
>>>
>>> I asked for a picture, the line they are trying to restart from is:
>>> G00 X76,4500 Y467,8691
>> Hummm. I have to ask, is the comma in those values legal in gcode?  I
>> don't know myself, or does that serve as the decimal point in that
>> locale?
>>
>> Thats a pair of quite large values if it was removed, so I'd have to
>> assume that locale uses a comma instead of a period.
>>
>> I haven't used that feature enough to have its setup stored in my aged
>> wet ram, but ISTR the line must be highlighted with the mouse somehow?
>>
>> I have a situation, see my previous post, where that would come in
>> handy, so I will see if my 2.5.4 (uptodate with package-manager) can
>> do that, and post my findings.  My stuff is heavily loaded with
>> subroutines and named variables though.  It will be a while, local
>> time is 4:44.
>>
> Update, I have the sim installed on this machine, and it works when I
> start it from a line that would be a top level line, the next subroutine
> works as expected.  All I did was highlight the line, and execute from
> line in the machine drop down menu.
>
> This is the 2.7.0 sim install.  That of course is a data point. 2.5.3 is
> starting to get long in the tooth.  Can he upgrade or is the machine
> "offline"?
>
>>> There are no subroutines in the file, no special cycles, just G0, G1,
>>> G2/G3 and G4 commands and M3/M5 commands.
>>> They are running 2.5.3 version and they can run particular g-code
>>> file from beginning with "start" button.
>>>
>>> Client says that nothing happens, if they select "run from here" -
>>> machine does not move. The guy confirmed that machine is homed and
>>> motion is enabled.
>>>
>>> I already suggested saving the file with another name and removing
>>> all the 1073 unnecessary g-code lines, but that does not seem like a
>>> productive way and I would like to know, what might potentially be
>>> wrong, so any suggestions are welcome.
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Viesturs
>>>
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Re: [Emc-users] "run from here" mystery

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 02 July 2014 04:44:28 Gene Heskett did opine
And Gene did reply:
> On Wednesday 02 July 2014 03:32:35 Viesturs Lؤپcis did opine
> 
> And Gene did reply:
> > Hello!
> > 
> > I would like to ask, if somebody could share some hints, why my
> > client can't restart execution of g-code file from middle of the
> > file with "run from here" - that is a waterjet machine and they
> > frequently stop the machine, if abrasive gets jammed etc. and then
> > restart
> > approximately from the place they stopped with "run from here".
> > 
> > I asked for a picture, the line they are trying to restart from is:
> > G00 X76,4500 Y467,8691
> 
> Hummm. I have to ask, is the comma in those values legal in gcode?  I
> don't know myself, or does that serve as the decimal point in that
> locale?
> 
> Thats a pair of quite large values if it was removed, so I'd have to
> assume that locale uses a comma instead of a period.
> 
> I haven't used that feature enough to have its setup stored in my aged
> wet ram, but ISTR the line must be highlighted with the mouse somehow?
> 
> I have a situation, see my previous post, where that would come in
> handy, so I will see if my 2.5.4 (uptodate with package-manager) can
> do that, and post my findings.  My stuff is heavily loaded with
> subroutines and named variables though.  It will be a while, local
> time is 4:44.
> 
Update, I have the sim installed on this machine, and it works when I 
start it from a line that would be a top level line, the next subroutine 
works as expected.  All I did was highlight the line, and execute from 
line in the machine drop down menu.

This is the 2.7.0 sim install.  That of course is a data point. 2.5.3 is 
starting to get long in the tooth.  Can he upgrade or is the machine 
"offline"?

> > There are no subroutines in the file, no special cycles, just G0, G1,
> > G2/G3 and G4 commands and M3/M5 commands.
> > They are running 2.5.3 version and they can run particular g-code
> > file from beginning with "start" button.
> > 
> > Client says that nothing happens, if they select "run from here" -
> > machine does not move. The guy confirmed that machine is homed and
> > motion is enabled.
> > 
> > I already suggested saving the file with another name and removing
> > all the 1073 unnecessary g-code lines, but that does not seem like a
> > productive way and I would like to know, what might potentially be
> > wrong, so any suggestions are welcome.
> > Thanks in advance!
> > 
> > Viesturs
> > 
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Re: [Emc-users] "run from here" mystery

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 02 July 2014 03:32:35 Viesturs Lācis did opine
And Gene did reply:
> Hello!
> 
> I would like to ask, if somebody could share some hints, why my client
> can't restart execution of g-code file from middle of the file with
> "run from here" - that is a waterjet machine and they frequently stop
> the machine, if abrasive gets jammed etc. and then restart
> approximately from the place they stopped with "run from here".
> 
> I asked for a picture, the line they are trying to restart from is:
> G00 X76,4500 Y467,8691

Hummm. I have to ask, is the comma in those values legal in gcode?  I 
don't know myself, or does that serve as the decimal point in that locale?

Thats a pair of quite large values if it was removed, so I'd have to 
assume that locale uses a comma instead of a period.

I haven't used that feature enough to have its setup stored in my aged wet 
ram, but ISTR the line must be highlighted with the mouse somehow?

I have a situation, see my previous post, where that would come in handy, 
so I will see if my 2.5.4 (uptodate with package-manager) can do that, and 
post my findings.  My stuff is heavily loaded with subroutines and named 
variables though.  It will be a while, local time is 4:44.

> There are no subroutines in the file, no special cycles, just G0, G1,
> G2/G3 and G4 commands and M3/M5 commands.
> They are running 2.5.3 version and they can run particular g-code file
> from beginning with "start" button.
> 
> Client says that nothing happens, if they select "run from here" -
> machine does not move. The guy confirmed that machine is homed and
> motion is enabled.
> 
> I already suggested saving the file with another name and removing all
> the 1073 unnecessary g-code lines, but that does not seem like a
> productive way and I would like to know, what might potentially be
> wrong, so any suggestions are welcome.
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Viesturs
> 
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[Emc-users] "run from here" mystery

[Viesturs Lācis]

Hello!

I would like to ask, if somebody could share some hints, why my client
can't restart execution of g-code file from middle of the file with
"run from here" - that is a waterjet machine and they frequently stop
the machine, if abrasive gets jammed etc. and then restart
approximately from the place they stopped with "run from here".

I asked for a picture, the line they are trying to restart from is:
G00 X76,4500 Y467,8691
There are no subroutines in the file, no special cycles, just G0, G1,
G2/G3 and G4 commands and M3/M5 commands.
They are running 2.5.3 version and they can run particular g-code file
from beginning with "start" button.

Client says that nothing happens, if they select "run from here" -
machine does not move. The guy confirmed that machine is homed and
motion is enabled.

I already suggested saving the file with another name and removing all
the 1073 unnecessary g-code lines, but that does not seem like a
productive way and I would like to know, what might potentially be
wrong, so any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks in advance!

Viesturs

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Re: [Emc-users] Run from here

[Jeff Epler]

In AXIS, click a line in the program listing.  Then, from the menu,
execute 'Machine > Set Next Line' and then 'Machine > Run'.  The other
GUIs may have this function in a more obscure location.

Jeff

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[Emc-users] Run from here

[granado]

How can I run a G-code from line 452?. There are any instruction like 
“run from here” (mach3) .

Thanks:

Antonio


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