[Emc-users] VIA based Mini-ITX

2006-11-23 Thread Stan Blosser
Has anyone ever used one of these little guys to run EMC?  I'm mainly only 
concerned about the floating point math necessary to run EMC.  I'm currently 
running on a PIII 1GHz with zero problems (at least on the PC side of things).  
I'm considering going in a different directions with the controls and one of 
these would fit perfectly into my design ideas.

Specifically, I'm looking at:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813153053

The plan is to add parallel ports through the addition of a PCI card, and boot 
from a CF card plugged into a CF-to-IDE adapter.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

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Re: [Emc-users] VIA based Mini-ITX

2006-11-23 Thread Jeff Epler
On board video is usually a bad match for realtime linux (see
"Problematic Hardware" under
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Hardware_Requirements), and with a
single PCI slot you can't add both video and a parallel port.  If you
can find a similar board with two slots, I would get that instead and
plan to add a VGA card.

My first guess is that any 1GHz machine will be sufficient to run emc2,
even if its math is not as fast as on high-end systems.  Anyway, the
marketing for the C7 says it has a "full-speed Floating Point Unit".

Jeff

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Re: [Emc-users] VIA based Mini-ITX

2006-11-23 Thread Lester Caine
Jeff Epler wrote:
> On board video is usually a bad match for realtime linux (see
> "Problematic Hardware" under
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Hardware_Requirements), and with a
> single PCI slot you can't add both video and a parallel port.  If you
> can find a similar board with two slots, I would get that instead and
> plan to add a VGA card.
> 
> My first guess is that any 1GHz machine will be sufficient to run emc2,
> even if its math is not as fast as on high-end systems.  Anyway, the
> marketing for the C7 says it has a "full-speed Floating Point Unit".

1.3GHz C7 runs nicely and I'm not having a problem with graphics on 
board. DDR2 533 memory probably helps there. CN13000's only problem is 
that the parallel port is on a connector inside so you end up with a 
ribbon cable snaking out the side ;)

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Re: [Emc-users] VIA based Mini-ITX

2006-11-23 Thread Manfredi Leto
Hi,

I'm using a LV-602 mini itx board by commell, bought used on ebay 50  EUR:

http://www.commell.com.tw/Product/SBC/LV-602.HTM

VIA C3 cpu at 800 MHz and 256 Mb RAM. The good thing is that the cpu is not 
soldered on the board but is mounted on a 370 type socket, so you can change 
it and mount a PIII up to 1.1 GHz (they are cheap now on ebay...).

I run linux ubuntu with emc2 live version (in persistent mode)  booting from 
a 1Gb USB pen without any problem. I've tested the compact flash boot in 
another embedded system and it works nice, better than the USB (faster...). 
So my next step is to buy a CF-IDE adapter and a 1Gb or 2Gb CF to use it on 
my board.

I'm not a linux expert, but with the help of other people on forums and 
other websites everything went well.

Greetings from Italy,

Manfredi


>From: Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
>
>To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
>Subject: Re: [Emc-users] VIA based Mini-ITX
>Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:44:30 +
>
>Jeff Epler wrote:
> > On board video is usually a bad match for realtime linux (see
> > "Problematic Hardware" under
> > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Hardware_Requirements), and 
>with a
> > single PCI slot you can't add both video and a parallel port.  If you
> > can find a similar board with two slots, I would get that instead and
> > plan to add a VGA card.
> >
> > My first guess is that any 1GHz machine will be sufficient to run emc2,
> > even if its math is not as fast as on high-end systems.  Anyway, the
> > marketing for the C7 says it has a "full-speed Floating Point Unit".
>
>1.3GHz C7 runs nicely and I'm not having a problem with graphics on
>board. DDR2 533 memory probably helps there. CN13000's only problem is
>that the parallel port is on a connector inside so you end up with a
>ribbon cable snaking out the side ;)
>
>--
>Lester Caine - G8HFL
>-
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Re: [Emc-users] VIA based Mini-ITX

2006-11-27 Thread Kent A. Reed
Stan:

Other replies suggest this board will work perfectly well as-is, but 
let's suppose for a moment that it was known not to. Instead of looking 
for a graphics-card solution, you could always consider getting two of 
these boards---the first to run EMC and the second to run an X-server 
against the first. Not so long ago in the evolution of computers 
so-called "thin client" X-terminals were all the rage. You'd just be 
making yours a little "thicker" by packaging it in the same enclosure 
with its not-so remote host:-)

Regards,
Kent
> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:22:32 -0500
> From: Stan Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Emc-users] VIA based Mini-ITX
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> Has anyone ever used one of these little guys to run EMC?  I'm mainly only 
> concerned about the floating point math necessary to run EMC.  I'm currently 
> running on a PIII 1GHz with zero problems (at least on the PC side of 
> things).  I'm considering going in a different directions with the controls 
> and one of these would fit perfectly into my design ideas.
>
> Specifically, I'm looking at:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813153053
>
> The plan is to add parallel ports through the addition of a PCI card, and 
> boot from a CF card plugged into a CF-to-IDE adapter.
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated!
>
>
>
>   

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Re: [Emc-users] VIA based Mini-ITX

2006-11-29 Thread Kyle
They do sell an expansion card that you plug into your single pci slot
to bring it out to two individual slots at 90 degrees above the board.

Kyle

Kent A. Reed wrote:
> Stan:
> 
> Other replies suggest this board will work perfectly well as-is, but 
> let's suppose for a moment that it was known not to. Instead of looking 
> for a graphics-card solution, you could always consider getting two of 
> these boards---the first to run EMC and the second to run an X-server 
> against the first. Not so long ago in the evolution of computers 
> so-called "thin client" X-terminals were all the rage. You'd just be 
> making yours a little "thicker" by packaging it in the same enclosure 
> with its not-so remote host:-)
> 
> Regards,
> Kent
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:22:32 -0500
>> From: Stan Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [Emc-users] VIA based Mini-ITX
>> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Has anyone ever used one of these little guys to run EMC?  I'm mainly only 
>> concerned about the floating point math necessary to run EMC.  I'm currently 
>> running on a PIII 1GHz with zero problems (at least on the PC side of 
>> things).  I'm considering going in a different directions with the controls 
>> and one of these would fit perfectly into my design ideas.
>>
>> Specifically, I'm looking at:
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813153053
>>
>> The plan is to add parallel ports through the addition of a PCI card, and 
>> boot from a CF card plugged into a CF-to-IDE adapter.
>>
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated!
>>
>>
>>
>>   
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