Re: [Emc-users] ac servo tuning

2008-07-14 Thread Ed
Jon Elson wrote:
 Terry wrote:
 
Hi

I have been trying to tune my ac drives using the method in the
intergrators manual--Increase the p till oscillate then increase I
till it stops
 


This is very interesting to me as I recently purchased a small HMC with 
Fanuc AC amps and motors. Where can I find pinouts and specs on Fanuc 
equipment? The computer only has outputs for a maximum of 4 axis and I 
have plans to set it up for 5. Jon, can your Pico system drive such a 
thing?   Thanks.   Ed.

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[Emc-users] ac servo tuning

2008-07-13 Thread Terry
Hi

I have been trying to tune my ac drives using the method in the
intergrators manual--Increase the p till oscillate then increase I 
till it stops
Oscillation starts at 400 P and I cant get rid of it with a 3000 I
D is zero 
The axis will run good with 100 P 5 I 1.2 D with no following errors
at 500ipm  Accell is 25 min follow .002 maxfollow .05
There is a slight high pitch buzz in the motors at these settings
The drives are Fanuc, motors are also
There are 3 adjustment pots on the drives themselves could 
these adjustments on the drives be keeping me from tuning properly?
I have no documentation on the drives
anyone had any luck tuning Fanuc drives?

Also in an unrelated question-I tried to use G64.1 exact stop mode
and I get an improper code alarm The reason I tried this is 
a G0 x5.0 then G0y5.0 will get me a radius in the tool path instead of
a square corner A fast feed move( 120 ipm) of the same locations will
get a smaller radius but still not square.

Thanks

Terry

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Re: [Emc-users] ac servo tuning

2008-07-13 Thread Terry

I meant G61 Sorry
 

On Sun Jul 13 18:33 , Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

Hi



I have been trying to tune my ac drives using the method in the

intergrators manual--Increase the p till oscillate then increase I 

till it stops

Oscillation starts at 400 P and I cant get rid of it with a 3000 I

D is zero 

The axis will run good with 100 P 5 I 1.2 D with no following errors

at 500ipm  Accell is 25 min follow .002 maxfollow .05

There is a slight high pitch buzz in the motors at these settings

The drives are Fanuc, motors are also

There are 3 adjustment pots on the drives themselves could 

these adjustments on the drives be keeping me from tuning properly?

I have no documentation on the drives

anyone had any luck tuning Fanuc drives?



Also in an unrelated question-I tried to use G64.1 exact stop mode

and I get an improper code alarm The reason I tried this is 

a G0 x5.0 then G0y5.0 will get me a radius in the tool path instead of

a square corner A fast feed move( 120 ipm) of the same locations will

get a smaller radius but still not square.



Thanks



Terry



 
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Re: [Emc-users] ac servo tuning

2008-07-13 Thread Jon Elson
Terry wrote:
 Hi
 
 I have been trying to tune my ac drives using the method in the
 intergrators manual--Increase the p till oscillate then increase I
 till it stops
This may be a typo!  A general scheme might be to increase P 
until oscillation, then increase ** D **, not I.  I don't think 
I will have any effect to reduce oscillation, but in some 
circumstances, D may help.  It depends on the nature of the 
oscillation.
 Oscillation starts at 400 P and I cant get rid of it with a 3000 I
 D is zero
 The axis will run good with 100 P  5  I   1.2 D  with no following errors
 at 500ipm   Accell is 25min follow .002  maxfollow .05
 There is a slight high pitch buzz in the motors at these settings
 The drives are Fanuc, motors are also
 There are 3 adjustment pots on the drives themselves could
 these adjustments on the drives be keeping me from tuning properly?
Yes, they probably have a complete PID loop in the drive 
already.  In this case, you may get better results with a lower 
P, and zero I and D, if the drive is performing a tight control 
of the motor.  What following error are you getting in your 
tests?  Are you using Halscope when tuning?
  I have no documentation on the drives
 anyone had any luck tuning Fanuc drives?
 
 Also in an unrelated question-I tried to use G64.1 exact stop mode
 and I get an improper code alarm  The reason I tried this  is
 a G0 x5.0 then G0y5.0 will get me a radius in the tool path instead of
 a square corner A fast feed move( 120 ipm) of the same locations will
 get a smaller radius but still not square.
I think G64.1 requires a P word to set the following tolerance.
So, you would code G61.1 P0.005 or something like that.

Jon

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