Re: [Emc-users] Animatics. Was:Small PC for use with 7i90 / 7i96?

2021-04-01 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 18:49, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users <
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>  I'm thinking it might be possible for software like LCNC to do things
> like translate complex moves the mill's controller doesn't have into
> combinations of things it can do that would produce the same end result.


It might well be possible. But have you tried experimenting with UGS?

https://winder.github.io/ugs_website/

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Re: [Emc-users] Animatics. Was:Small PC for use with 7i90 / 7i96?

2021-04-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
The PLM 2000 uses a single unit 3 axis servo controller. Or 4 axis for the rare 
ones with the HAAS rotary. I read from someone who worked there that they only 
sold around 40 with the 4th axis. Would have been nice if they'd equipped all 
with the 4 axis controller for easy upgrades.
 
This was before the merger to become MOOG-Animatics. I got the trove of data 
and software from a guy who worked for Animatics and stayed with the company 
after the merger. He found it on an old backup drive.

On Thursday, April 1, 2021, 11:56:59 AM MDT, Mark Johnsen 
 wrote:  
 
 Maybe you could reprogram the animatics to accept step and direction on
some inputs, if they're available and do it that way?

I had an IMS drive that I did that with to run linuxCNC.  Definitely, not
the preferred way to do it, though.  The IMS setup I had didn't seem to
work very well as the drivers had the integrated controller that had to
convert step and direction with an onboard processor.  I wouldn't recommend
that setup w/ IMS smart drives (think it was an Mdrive).

Also, with independent controllers on each motor like animatics, I would
think latency would cause some issues.  They'd be very minor, but one motor
might lag a split second compared to another.  I don't think it'd be too
noticeable for most applications, but not as robust as step and direction.

Mark

On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:48 AM Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users <
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

>  I'm thinking it might be possible for software like LCNC to do things
> like translate complex moves the mill's controller doesn't have into
> combinations of things it can do that would produce the same end result.
> But first thing would be to just get it feeding the mill code it
> understands so that old computers running DOS and ancient EMS can be done
> away with.
>
>
>    On Thursday, April 1, 2021, 2:10:27 AM MDT, andy pugh <
> bodge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 00:43, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users <
> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> I have all the technical info and some setup/configuration software for the
> > Animatics servo controller but nobody is interested in adding support to
> > LCNC.
>
>
> I am not sure that you have ever explicitly asked anyone to. I thought you
> were trying to do it yourself.
>
>
> > Basically it streams gcode out by serial and listens for ack and things
> > like hitting an end stop, monitoring the position encoders, and things
> that
> > will cause it to stop the machine
>
>
> Though this does sound like DNC to an embedded controller, which isn't
> usually considered a good fit for LinuxCNC.
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Re: [Emc-users] Animatics. Was:Small PC for use with 7i90 / 7i96?

2021-04-01 Thread Mark Johnsen
Maybe you could reprogram the animatics to accept step and direction on
some inputs, if they're available and do it that way?

I had an IMS drive that I did that with to run linuxCNC.  Definitely, not
the preferred way to do it, though.  The IMS setup I had didn't seem to
work very well as the drivers had the integrated controller that had to
convert step and direction with an onboard processor.  I wouldn't recommend
that setup w/ IMS smart drives (think it was an Mdrive).

Also, with independent controllers on each motor like animatics, I would
think latency would cause some issues.  They'd be very minor, but one motor
might lag a split second compared to another.  I don't think it'd be too
noticeable for most applications, but not as robust as step and direction.

Mark

On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 10:48 AM Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users <
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

>  I'm thinking it might be possible for software like LCNC to do things
> like translate complex moves the mill's controller doesn't have into
> combinations of things it can do that would produce the same end result.
> But first thing would be to just get it feeding the mill code it
> understands so that old computers running DOS and ancient EMS can be done
> away with.
>
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021, 2:10:27 AM MDT, andy pugh <
> bodge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 00:43, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users <
> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> I have all the technical info and some setup/configuration software for the
> > Animatics servo controller but nobody is interested in adding support to
> > LCNC.
>
>
> I am not sure that you have ever explicitly asked anyone to. I thought you
> were trying to do it yourself.
>
>
> > Basically it streams gcode out by serial and listens for ack and things
> > like hitting an end stop, monitoring the position encoders, and things
> that
> > will cause it to stop the machine
>
>
> Though this does sound like DNC to an embedded controller, which isn't
> usually considered a good fit for LinuxCNC.
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Re: [Emc-users] Animatics. Was:Small PC for use with 7i90 / 7i96?

2021-04-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
 I'm thinking it might be possible for software like LCNC to do things like 
translate complex moves the mill's controller doesn't have into combinations of 
things it can do that would produce the same end result.
But first thing would be to just get it feeding the mill code it understands so 
that old computers running DOS and ancient EMS can be done away with.


On Thursday, April 1, 2021, 2:10:27 AM MDT, andy pugh  
wrote:  
 
 On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 00:43, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users <
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

I have all the technical info and some setup/configuration software for the
> Animatics servo controller but nobody is interested in adding support to
> LCNC.


I am not sure that you have ever explicitly asked anyone to. I thought you
were trying to do it yourself.


> Basically it streams gcode out by serial and listens for ack and things
> like hitting an end stop, monitoring the position encoders, and things that
> will cause it to stop the machine


Though this does sound like DNC to an embedded controller, which isn't
usually considered a good fit for LinuxCNC.  
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