Re: [Emc-users] Latest Linux Build

2014-11-20 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Rick
I just looked at the 7i80 and it looks like the holes are symmetrical so 
you could mount it any way round I think.

On 2014-11-19 14:02, Rick Lair wrote:
 I would rather use the din rail mounts, but they are orientated 90
 degrees off of how I mount the boards, or so it looks like on the mesa
 web page.


 Thanks


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Re: [Emc-users] Latest Linux Build

2014-11-20 Thread Rick Lair
 own it.
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Rick
I just looked at the 7i80 and it looks like the holes are symmetrical 
so
you could mount it any way round I think.

On 2014-11-19 14:02, Rick Lair wrote:
  I would rather use the din rail mounts, but they are orientated 90
  degrees off of how I mount the boards, or so it looks like on the 
mesa
  web page.


  Thanks


  Rick




  
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:55:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] i guess i need a new motherboard for new
  linuxcnc
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
  emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2014, andy pugh wrote:

  Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:50:23 +
  From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com
  Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
  emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [Emc-users] i guess i need a new motherboard for new 
linuxcnc

  On 20 November 2014 16:37, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote:

  Thats one of the many J1800,J1900,J2900 motherboards that have 
displaced the
  older D525 and D2550,D2800 based motherboards in the low power X86 
range

  I wonder if this one would be any good? It looks like single 12V
  power, which is a big plus.
  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157495

  I think I see a parallel port header.

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Yep, if you zoom in you can see a 26 pin header labeled LPT1


  
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:25:01 +
From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers
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On 20 November 2014 14:29, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za 
wrote:
  Andy why were you disappointed with the position feedback.
  Will it be ok on a slow moving bed?
  Do you think a more powerful MCU will do the trick?

It was noisy and dithered a lot. The Arduino has to measure 2 voltages
per measurement. To do it fast enough it had to be only 8 bits and the
shortest sample time that the Arduino could handle. Even then the
carrier was only 1kHz, whereas Resolvers normally work at at least
5kHz.

So, two noisy values divided by each other = a very noisy result,
which gives a noisy arctan and a lot of servo dither.

Yes, a more powerful MCU would be better, and it so happens that Mesa
and Pico sell exactly that all ready to go.

Why will nobody believe me when I say that my experiment was rubbish?

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Re: [Emc-users] Latest Linux Build

2014-11-20 Thread Dave Cole
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 On 20 November 2014 16:37, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote:

   Thats one of the many J1800,J1900,J2900 motherboards that have
 displaced the
   older D525 and D2550,D2800 based motherboards in the low power X86
 range
 I wonder if this one would be any good? It looks like single 12V
 power, which is a big plus.
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157495

 I think I see a parallel port header.

 --
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 http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto



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 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 18:51:19 +0200
 From: Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latest Linux Build
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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 Rick
 I just looked at the 7i80 and it looks like the holes are symmetrical
 so
 you could mount it any way round I think.

 On 2014-11-19 14:02, Rick Lair wrote:
   I would rather use the din rail mounts, but they are orientated 90
   degrees off of how I mount the boards, or so it looks like on the
 mesa
   web page.


   Thanks


   Rick




   
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 Message: 7
 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:55:28 -0800 (PST)
 From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] i guess i need a new motherboard for new
   linuxcnc
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
   emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Message-ID: pine.neb.4.64.1411200854350.18...@freeby.mesanet.com
 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

 On Thu, 20 Nov 2014, andy pugh wrote:

   Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:50:23 +
   From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com
   Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
   emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Emc-users] i guess i need a new motherboard for new
 linuxcnc

   On 20 November 2014 16:37, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote:

   Thats one of the many J1800,J1900,J2900 motherboards that have
 displaced the
   older D525 and D2550,D2800 based motherboards in the low power X86
 range
   I wonder if this one would be any good? It looks like single 12V
   power, which is a big plus.
   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157495

   I think I see a parallel port header.

   --
   atp
   If you can't fix it, you don't own it.
   http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto


 Yep, if you zoom in you can see a 26 pin header labeled LPT1


   
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 Message: 8
 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:25:01 +
 From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Motor Resolvers
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
   emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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 On 20 November 2014 14:29, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za
 wrote:
   Andy why were you disappointed with the position feedback.
   Will it be ok on a slow moving bed?
   Do you think a more powerful MCU will do the trick?
 It was noisy and dithered a lot. The Arduino has to measure 2 voltages
 per measurement. To do it fast enough it had to be only 8 bits and the
 shortest sample time that the Arduino could handle. Even then the
 carrier was only 1kHz, whereas Resolvers normally work at at least
 5kHz.

 So, two noisy values divided

Re: [Emc-users] Latest Linux Build

2014-11-20 Thread Marius Liebenberg
 i need a new motherboard for new
   linuxcnc
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
   emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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 On 20 November 2014 16:37, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote:

   Thats one of the many J1800,J1900,J2900 motherboards that have
 displaced the
   older D525 and D2550,D2800 based motherboards in the low power X86
 range
 I wonder if this one would be any good? It looks like single 12V
 power, which is a big plus.
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157495

 I think I see a parallel port header.

 --
 atp
 If you can't fix it, you don't own it.
 http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto



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 Message: 6
 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 18:51:19 +0200
 From: Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latest Linux Build
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Message-ID: 546e1c07.8080...@mastercut.co.za
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Rick
 I just looked at the 7i80 and it looks like the holes are symmetrical
 so
 you could mount it any way round I think.

 On 2014-11-19 14:02, Rick Lair wrote:
   I would rather use the din rail mounts, but they are orientated 90
   degrees off of how I mount the boards, or so it looks like on the
 mesa
   web page.


   Thanks


   Rick




   
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 Message: 7
 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:55:28 -0800 (PST)
 From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] i guess i need a new motherboard for new
   linuxcnc
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
   emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

 On Thu, 20 Nov 2014, andy pugh wrote:

   Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:50:23 +
   From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com
   Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
   emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [Emc-users] i guess i need a new motherboard for new
 linuxcnc

   On 20 November 2014 16:37, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote:

   Thats one of the many J1800,J1900,J2900 motherboards that have
 displaced the
   older D525 and D2550,D2800 based motherboards in the low power X86
 range
   I wonder if this one would be any good? It looks like single 12V
   power, which is a big plus.
   http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157495

   I think I see a parallel port header.

   --
   atp
   If you can't fix it, you don't own it.
   http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto


 Yep, if you zoom in you can see a 26 pin header labeled LPT1


   
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 On 20 November 2014 14:29, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za
 wrote:
   Andy why were you disappointed with the position feedback.
   Will it be ok on a slow moving bed?
   Do you think a more powerful MCU will do the trick?
 It was noisy and dithered a lot. The Arduino has to measure 2 voltages
 per measurement

Re: [Emc-users] Latest Linux Build

2014-11-19 Thread Rick Lair
I would rather use the din rail mounts, but they are orientated 90 
degrees off of how I mount the boards, or so it looks like on the mesa 
web page.


Thanks


Rick




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Re: [Emc-users] Latest Linux Build

2014-11-19 Thread Dave Cole
I think you are correct.

Dave


On 11/19/2014 7:02 AM, Rick Lair wrote:
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 degrees off of how I mount the boards, or so it looks like on the mesa
 web page.


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Re: [Emc-users] Latest Linux Build

2014-11-18 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 11/18/2014 11:58 AM, Rick wrote:
 Hey Guys,

 Here is a link to the main Control Panel of our latest linux build, this
 is going on an early 80's Cincinnati Milacron 10VC-1000 machining
 center, travels are 40 in the X, 20 in the Y, and 20 in the Z. We are
 adding a B axis to the machine during the retrofit.

 Mesa 7I80, 7I44, 7I49, 7I70, 7I71, 7I73 Boards, Asrock MB, AMD A4 CPU,
 and a Kingston SSD

 This is the 4th LinuxCNC retrofit done in our shop, the three previous
 were all turning centers.


 http://postimg.org/image/6u1oyorb9/


 Thanks


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very nice. is the orange device a 'safety relay'?
Its great to show how the Ethernet reduces cabling.
thanks for sharing
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Re: [Emc-users] Latest Linux Build

2014-11-18 Thread Dave Cole
Looks nice.

You should try out the din rail clips that Mesa sells for their 
boards.   They work very well.

Dave

On 11/18/2014 12:58 PM, Rick wrote:
 Hey Guys,

 Here is a link to the main Control Panel of our latest linux build, this
 is going on an early 80's Cincinnati Milacron 10VC-1000 machining
 center, travels are 40 in the X, 20 in the Y, and 20 in the Z. We are
 adding a B axis to the machine during the retrofit.

 Mesa 7I80, 7I44, 7I49, 7I70, 7I71, 7I73 Boards, Asrock MB, AMD A4 CPU,
 and a Kingston SSD

 This is the 4th LinuxCNC retrofit done in our shop, the three previous
 were all turning centers.


 http://postimg.org/image/6u1oyorb9/


 Thanks


 Rick


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Re: [Emc-users] Latest Linux Build

2014-11-18 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Looking really good Rick. This is how things will be done in the future 
I think.

On 2014-11-18 19:58, Rick wrote:
 Hey Guys,

 Here is a link to the main Control Panel of our latest linux build, this
 is going on an early 80's Cincinnati Milacron 10VC-1000 machining
 center, travels are 40 in the X, 20 in the Y, and 20 in the Z. We are
 adding a B axis to the machine during the retrofit.

 Mesa 7I80, 7I44, 7I49, 7I70, 7I71, 7I73 Boards, Asrock MB, AMD A4 CPU,
 and a Kingston SSD

 This is the 4th LinuxCNC retrofit done in our shop, the three previous
 were all turning centers.


 http://postimg.org/image/6u1oyorb9/


 Thanks


 Rick


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