Re: [Emc-users] Shuttle Express
On 2021-06-24 17:29, John Dammeyer wrote: Anyway, for now the Shuttle is back on the MACH3 based CNC router where it's currently in use carving up MDF so I can't borrow it back for a few days. I have the Shuttle (not the Express, but the other one with the extra buttons etc). It works a treat in Mach3 and is really useful. It doesn't work in LinuxCNC, which is a right pain. Some years ago I tried that driver on the basis that it might at least give some functionality, but no; it doesn't want to play ball. It was suggested that this model may not behave in quite the same way as the Express, but I can't say one way or the other, and never had the time to try to find out. At the time, I could find no information from the manufacturers, and they were not interested in supplying a driver. I feel your frustration... especially given the price of these things, and the fact that it works so well in MACH3, which I don't run much these days. Marcus ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Shuttle Express
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 at 03:08, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > shuttle: error opening /dev/hidraw0: Permission denied > > shuttle: make sure you have read permission on /dev/hidraw0, read the > > shuttle(1) manpage for more info > > I wonder if this is a setuid root thing? > > https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/325caafff458f6675d3954885a951078b5c433e0/src/Makefile#L554 > > You could try doing that to the shuttle driver. > > -- > atp For some reason the issue went away after a reboot and the /dev/hidraw0 changed to -r for user and group. Perhaps it's a timing thing. Like the MESA 7i92 needs a minute or two after LinuxCNC has started before it will work. The really unusable thing about the Shuttle Express is that the center wheel doesn't move at the requested increment distance and once a G-Code program has run the Shuttle is completely unresponsive until LinuxCNC is restarted. It behaves as if the system is still in MDI mode, just like my PC based LinuxCNC on the mill, which won't allow the XHC_HB04 pendant to function when the MDI screen is active. But unlike the pendant, tapping an F3 to return to the first screen does not allow the Shuttle to move axis.The original author of the hal file did not mention either of those issues so I'm going to guess it's something to do with the Pi4 implementation or the main INI/HAL that he has different from the one I'm using. Likely both issues are in the HAL file. Anyway, for now the Shuttle is back on the MACH3 based CNC router where it's currently in use carving up MDF so I can't borrow it back for a few days. Thanks John shuttle1_2020-07-10.hal Description: Binary data ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Shuttle Express
On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 at 03:08, John Dammeyer wrote: > shuttle: error opening /dev/hidraw0: Permission denied > shuttle: make sure you have read permission on /dev/hidraw0, read the > shuttle(1) manpage for more info I wonder if this is a setuid root thing? https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/325caafff458f6675d3954885a951078b5c433e0/src/Makefile#L554 You could try doing that to the shuttle driver. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Shuttle Express
Studying the hal file shows how the spring loaded wheel changes the jog speed. Although the documentation claims percentage of full jog speed that's actually not true since 100 creates 100 ipm and 500 creates 150 ipm which is the top speed of the Z axis. (I have a stepper motor on the floor reacting to what I do). The result of that is the scaled value is connected to halui.joint.jog-speed and the motor turns. The inner wheel which is scaled by 1000 is supposed to send 1000 count for each click of the wheel to axis.z.jog-counts And it does based on the HAL Meter output. But nothing moves. I'm wondering if I have an hold shuttle hal file although 10JUL2020 doesn't seem that old. However I can't seem to find a newer one. Am I not looking in the right place? Thanks John > -Original Message- > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] > Sent: June-22-21 7:20 PM > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Shuttle Express > > Ah! Semi success. One more reboot of the Pi4. > Then address the new error messages since this time it actually found the > Shuttle Express. > The hal file I used had commented out > loadrt or2 count=3 > > and worse also did addf for or2.1 or2.2 and or2.3 > So that was broken too. I changed the count to 4 and now LinuxCNC runs and > the jog feature works with the spring loaded outer > wheel with the first 3 buttons selecting XYZ and the last two doing nothing. > > The inner wheel does not do individual steps as expected so I'm guessing > there is more wrong with this hal file. > > John > > > > -Original Message- > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] > > Sent: June-22-21 7:05 PM > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > > Subject: [Emc-users] Shuttle Express > > > > I believe I've followed all the instructions on configuring for the Shuttle > > Express on the Pi4 using LINUXCNC 2.8.1 > > > > Entering ls -al /dev/hidr* shows that with the shuttle not plugged in I > > have hidraw1..hidraw3 > > Plug in the shuttle and hidraw0 shows up. > > > > I've put source shuttle1_2020-07-10.hal into the config folder and added > > into postgui_call_list.hal > > source shuttle1_2020-07-10.hal > > > > I've also created the file 99-shuttle.rules to properly set the > > permissions. The USB vender and product are 0B33 and 0020 on this > > device. > > > > The various web sites all show this type of error which is what I am also > > seeing: > > > > shuttle: error opening /dev/hidraw0: Permission denied > > shuttle: make sure you have read permission on /dev/hidraw0, read the > > shuttle(1) manpage for more info > > shuttle: error opening /dev/hidraw1: Permission denied > > shuttle: make sure you have read permission on /dev/hidraw1, read the > > shuttle(1) manpage for more info > > shuttle: error opening /dev/hidraw2: Permission denied > > shuttle: make sure you have read permission on /dev/hidraw2, read the > > shuttle(1) manpage for more info > > shuttle: error opening /dev/hidraw3: Permission denied > > shuttle: make sure you have read permission on /dev/hidraw3, read the > > shuttle(1) manpage for more info > > shuttle: no devices found > > shuttle1_2020-07-10.hal:11: waitpid failed shuttle shuttle > > shuttle1_2020-07-10.hal:11: shuttle exited without becoming ready > > > > So what could I be missing and what approach do I use to try and find out > > what is missing? I've included the rules file just in case I > > have a typo that I can't see. > > > > And here's the list of sites I've used to try and solve this problem. > > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/master/html/drivers/shuttle.html > > https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/commit/ba077f564 > > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/getting-started/updating-linuxcnc.html#_tt_shuttlexpress_tt_driver_renamed_to_tt_shuttle_tt > > https://forum.linuxcnc.org/24-hal-components/39302-shuttlexpress-pins-not-fond-after-updating-to-2-9-0-pre0-2180- > ga14b08a70 > > > > Thanks > > John > > > > > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Shuttle Express
Ah! Semi success. One more reboot of the Pi4. Then address the new error messages since this time it actually found the Shuttle Express. The hal file I used had commented out loadrt or2 count=3 and worse also did addf for or2.1 or2.2 and or2.3 So that was broken too. I changed the count to 4 and now LinuxCNC runs and the jog feature works with the spring loaded outer wheel with the first 3 buttons selecting XYZ and the last two doing nothing. The inner wheel does not do individual steps as expected so I'm guessing there is more wrong with this hal file. John > -Original Message- > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] > Sent: June-22-21 7:05 PM > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > Subject: [Emc-users] Shuttle Express > > I believe I've followed all the instructions on configuring for the Shuttle > Express on the Pi4 using LINUXCNC 2.8.1 > > Entering ls -al /dev/hidr* shows that with the shuttle not plugged in I have > hidraw1..hidraw3 > Plug in the shuttle and hidraw0 shows up. > > I've put source shuttle1_2020-07-10.hal into the config folder and added into > postgui_call_list.hal > source shuttle1_2020-07-10.hal > > I've also created the file 99-shuttle.rules to properly set the permissions. > The USB vender and product are 0B33 and 0020 on this > device. > > The various web sites all show this type of error which is what I am also > seeing: > > shuttle: error opening /dev/hidraw0: Permission denied > shuttle: make sure you have read permission on /dev/hidraw0, read the > shuttle(1) manpage for more info > shuttle: error opening /dev/hidraw1: Permission denied > shuttle: make sure you have read permission on /dev/hidraw1, read the > shuttle(1) manpage for more info > shuttle: error opening /dev/hidraw2: Permission denied > shuttle: make sure you have read permission on /dev/hidraw2, read the > shuttle(1) manpage for more info > shuttle: error opening /dev/hidraw3: Permission denied > shuttle: make sure you have read permission on /dev/hidraw3, read the > shuttle(1) manpage for more info > shuttle: no devices found > shuttle1_2020-07-10.hal:11: waitpid failed shuttle shuttle > shuttle1_2020-07-10.hal:11: shuttle exited without becoming ready > > So what could I be missing and what approach do I use to try and find out > what is missing? I've included the rules file just in case I > have a typo that I can't see. > > And here's the list of sites I've used to try and solve this problem. > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/master/html/drivers/shuttle.html > https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/commit/ba077f564 > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/getting-started/updating-linuxcnc.html#_tt_shuttlexpress_tt_driver_renamed_to_tt_shuttle_tt > https://forum.linuxcnc.org/24-hal-components/39302-shuttlexpress-pins-not-fond-after-updating-to-2-9-0-pre0-2180-ga14b08a70 > > Thanks > John > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
