[-empyre-] Unsubscribe me please

[Macon Reed]

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Re: [-empyre-] Starting the Fourth Week: Chris Funkhauser, Sally Silvers and Bruce Andrews

[Macon Reed]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Are my emails getting through? How do I unsubscribe?

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Bruce Andrews  wrote:

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> Craig, thanks for this.
>
> Really feeing that life on the web is recreating some of the 'distance'
> features of the scattered poets' life in the 70s: where you didn't have to
> choose between a local scene (with its shared & often narrow aesthetic
> assumptions, groupthink, life style-centeredness — often fondly recalled by
> insiders as 'community' & 'warmth') & isolation; now, if you already have a
> sense of who & what you're interested in, you can find a network out there
> to tap into — whether mail or, now, email & listserves & blog comments,
> etc. I remember being invited down to New Orleans to read by Camille
> Martin, who was corresponding with a clutch of (mostly women) avantish
> poets around the country & abroad, but was frustrated by a (mostly male) &
> less avantish local scene [dominated by something similar to the Poetry
> Project's mix of New American Poetry, a generation or so younger than the
> pioneers in the Don Allen anthology]; she started a small non-profit
> literary society that could apply for grants to bring poets in from out of
> town, more reminiscent of the work of the people she was corresponding
> with. Again, the issue of relying on an 'at hand' already constituted local
> scene or community, vs. reaching out to a farflung network of (usually)
> strangers. [Some of this is probably affected (or I could say, infected) by
> the dynamics of college-based Creative Writing Workshops & the tendency for
> graduates to stay close to where they graduated & trying to create a
> smaller but maybe even more narrowly focussed scene or community.]
>
> On the 3 editors you mention: I didn't get much sense of a
> close-knittedness between Williams, Higgins & Rothenberg, but the first 2
> had presses & I was very impressed with what they were publishing (&
> gratified that they responded very positively to work that I sent along to
> them: both Jonathan & Dick expressed a similar thought — that they might
> like to consider doing a small book of mine, but that I hadn't built up
> enough of a reputation [in the magazine world] to allow for the sort of
> name recognition that'd keep the book from just sitting in boxes. I was
> sending them work at the very start of my efforts to track down magazines
> that'd be interested in what I was doing. [Jonathan Williams, who I only
> met years later — true for the other 2 as well — was also a completely
> captivating & charming letter writer, so that encouraged me to up my game
> in response]. Rothenberg, as I said, was doing a magazine of ethnopoetics (
> *Alcheringa*, with the recently deceased & dearly missed Dennis Tedlock)
> that I sent work to; because he was pretty much only doing translations
> there, he put me in touch with Ron Silliman — who had just started
> *Tottel's* & turned out to be nearly exactly on my poetic wavelength,
> which began 45 years (!) years of close contact & collaboration; again, Ron
> & I didn't meet for 6 or 7 years.
>
> I never saw Bern Porter's magazine, but had seen his books a few years
> after I started writing:  I was in school in Cambridge, Mass. & made a few
> trips to NYC where you could find such things in the early 70s — as was
> true of perhaps the most radical poetry (etc.) journal of the time, *0-9 
> *[which
> James Hoff put out a wonderful collected edition of — they had just stopped
> publishing when I got around to sending them work. But re Bern P.: I was
> asked by Michael Wiater to guest edit an issue of his magazine, *Toothpick,
> Lisbon & the Orcas Islands* — quite a title — & I wrote to dozens of
> people in 1973, none of whom I'd ever met, assembling their addresses by
> asking editors [Richard Kostelanetz, at the time, was a virtual Rolodex of
> contact information] & then writing them, saying I'd like to see an
> extremely large amount of material which I'd make decisions on very quickly
> & send the rest back. Bern Porter sent me a BOX of about 300 separate
> pages/pieces that I selected a couple from. Wonderful generosity of spirit
> was close to a norm in those days, again all in the mail. As for Gertrude
> Stein, I was lucky enough to have access to the Johns Hopkins library
> (while I was getting a Masters degree), which had the multi-volume Yale
> edition including her early & most radical work, within a year after I
> started writing, in 1969, so the Something Else Press attention was a
> welcome treat. [I'd probably say that a consensus among my peer
> 'language-centered writers' of the 70s/80s, Stein was the key writer of the
> 20th century — something that's not a consensus in any other group of poets]
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Craig Saper  wrote:
>
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Re: [-empyre-] reply to Murat

[Macon Reed]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hello,
I have tried to write the moderator to find out how to unsubscribe to this
list but haven't heard back, maybe I have the wrong email? There is so much
great conversation here, I just have too much email to keep up with. If
anyone can tell me how to unsubscribe, Id really appreciate it.
Thanks,
Macon

On Monday, November 28, 2016, Funkhouser, Christopher T. <
christopher.t.funkhou...@njit.edu> wrote:

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Re: [-empyre-] SECOND WEEK GRAB EM BY THE PUISSANCE empyre Digest, Vol 143, Issue 8

[Macon Reed]

--empyre- soft-skinned space--Just a note to this group, I really do not want to get any more emails in
my inbox with references to that grab them by the pussy line form trump. I
have to live as a woman and as some one with a vagina under this government
and really dont want to hear any jokes or lines about that from him. I hope
this can be understood. Its just not funny and the grief and rage are
enough as they are. Thanks.


On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Alan Sondheim  wrote:

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> I'm confused, Murat - that seemed to be Adeena's position, not mine.
>
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Murat Nemet-Nejat wrote:
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