Re: [-empyre-] Fwd: Re: Introducing Lynne DeSilva-Johnson!

2017-06-05 Thread Margaret J Rhee

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I meant to send this link to Lynne! But sharing again here, Bjork's all 
full of love, and robots.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjI2J2SQ528

Thanks again, and really look forward to the next forum on fake news, a 
pressing topic of our current times.


On 2017-06-05 08:36, Margaret J Rhee wrote:

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I was just about to place a last response, and suddenly realized
Lynne's generative message below may not have gone out to the
listserve. Perhaps as a last note, it would be wonderful to engage
with Lynne's words here.

"in a way, robot poetics may
now be in our nature, so that all of us are inadvertantly engaged in it
at all times, some more consciously than others."

Perhaps this speaks to the cybernectics of empyre, and our continuing
dialogue on robot poetics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjI2J2SQ528

warmly,

Margaret

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Introducing Lynne DeSilva-Johnson!
Date: 2017-05-30 15:46
From: the operating system 
To: Margaret J Rhee 

Glad for this further engagement, and honored to be held in Cyborg ears
at Wiscon! Somehow knew many folks there this year.

I want to rejoin your comments here, but also re-engage with some of 
the

questions that started off the month, just to bring things full circle
-- because I think they help me weave the ontological threads I'm going
for:

"_What is a poem? Is it a thought, or a dream? / __Our bodies, maybe?_

_Now, what is a machine?"_

I start here because I want to speak to the organism-as-machine, the
algorithm-as-ecology, and technology as an evolving, pre-mechanized
condition, which perhaps moved away from "nature" in our common 
lexicon,
but never entirely in fact -- and that, too, in a way, robot poetics 
may

now be in our nature, so that all of us are inadvertantly engaged in it
at all times, some more consciously than others.

One of the most impactful lectures I sat in as a student was in a
4-fields required intro-anthro class, in Archeology. And in that 
lecture

-- on "technology," the professor opened with a slide on early nets --
literal nets, for fishing -- and how they transformed all that came
after. The conceptual shift that moved "technology" away from modern
machines to its root as the marriage of techne and logia.

I say this because The OS is entirely built on an iterative, 
ecological,

machine learning / agile, open source inspired model -- and because I
see myself quite literally at the helm of an organism, which is really
just a segment of breathing, evolving cyborg mycelia to which both
humans and code -- and, as such, the tools of our hyper-networked life
(like mobile devices) are intimately tied.

I'm sort of an early adopter nerd, you know -- I had a blog starting in
2003, was doing poetry and art on products on cafepress about that
time and I run in these sort of futurist circles -- I'm as likely 
to

be reading Rheingold or WIRED as I am poetry -- and so when I think
about the OS I think about how this organism MUST be built using the
materials of this time, and how _we_ are co-evolving in physical
landscape and rewriting our own genetics via the specific techne and
logia of this time. I believe this deeply.

So, that means -- I am thinking about SEO and languaging for social
networks, and metatagging, in my own art and poetics as well as in the
work I produce for the OS on and offline -- and I'm also looking for
sensibilities that marry those languages. I think often this manifests
in popular poetics as inclusions of meme or pop reference -- and I 
think

there's a place for that -- but my own scanner, looking at manuscripts
and work, is always seeking out voices that dialogue with the myriad
codes we are required to parse and codeswitch seamlessly in order to 
not

only function but especially to thrive here.

I think a lot of the work that I select for The OS catalog engages with
a post-colonial, anthropocene intersectionality that dives just as
deeply into ecopoetic concerns -- and all of this with an awareness of
the hyper-written linguistic simulacra of our engagements here. Mark
Gurarie's book, _Everybody's Automat_, as you say here, Margaret, is a
great example of this, as is Judith Goldman's  [18]_agon [18]_ -- yet
none of these authors are overtly engaged with the titular work of
"robot poetics" -- which I think is important to consider. When given 
an
offer of this language, and versed in its questions, many of our 
authors
-- and myself -- would certainly consider ourselves to be working 
there,

but it's never been language that was used. Part of this may simply be
what part of academic life (or entirely non-academic life) folks find
themselves in. So much of the labelling (or lack thereof) has to do 
with

circles and association.

I've been thinking a lot about Paolo Soleri, whose work I return to
cyclically, and I'm currently writing a short pamphlet drawi

[-empyre-] Fwd: Re: Introducing Lynne DeSilva-Johnson!

2017-06-05 Thread Margaret J Rhee

--empyre- soft-skinned space--
I was just about to place a last response, and suddenly realized Lynne's 
generative message below may not have gone out to the listserve. Perhaps 
as a last note, it would be wonderful to engage with Lynne's words here.


"in a way, robot poetics may
now be in our nature, so that all of us are inadvertantly engaged in it
at all times, some more consciously than others."

Perhaps this speaks to the cybernectics of empyre, and our continuing 
dialogue on robot poetics.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjI2J2SQ528

warmly,

Margaret

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Introducing Lynne DeSilva-Johnson!
Date: 2017-05-30 15:46
From: the operating system 
To: Margaret J Rhee 

Glad for this further engagement, and honored to be held in Cyborg ears
at Wiscon! Somehow knew many folks there this year.

I want to rejoin your comments here, but also re-engage with some of the
questions that started off the month, just to bring things full circle
-- because I think they help me weave the ontological threads I'm going
for:

"_What is a poem? Is it a thought, or a dream? / __Our bodies, maybe?_

_Now, what is a machine?"_

I start here because I want to speak to the organism-as-machine, the
algorithm-as-ecology, and technology as an evolving, pre-mechanized
condition, which perhaps moved away from "nature" in our common lexicon,
but never entirely in fact -- and that, too, in a way, robot poetics may
now be in our nature, so that all of us are inadvertantly engaged in it
at all times, some more consciously than others.

One of the most impactful lectures I sat in as a student was in a
4-fields required intro-anthro class, in Archeology. And in that lecture
-- on "technology," the professor opened with a slide on early nets --
literal nets, for fishing -- and how they transformed all that came
after. The conceptual shift that moved "technology" away from modern
machines to its root as the marriage of techne and logia.

I say this because The OS is entirely built on an iterative, ecological,
machine learning / agile, open source inspired model -- and because I
see myself quite literally at the helm of an organism, which is really
just a segment of breathing, evolving cyborg mycelia to which both
humans and code -- and, as such, the tools of our hyper-networked life
(like mobile devices) are intimately tied.

I'm sort of an early adopter nerd, you know -- I had a blog starting in
2003, was doing poetry and art on products on cafepress about that
time and I run in these sort of futurist circles -- I'm as likely to
be reading Rheingold or WIRED as I am poetry -- and so when I think
about the OS I think about how this organism MUST be built using the
materials of this time, and how _we_ are co-evolving in physical
landscape and rewriting our own genetics via the specific techne and
logia of this time. I believe this deeply.

So, that means -- I am thinking about SEO and languaging for social
networks, and metatagging, in my own art and poetics as well as in the
work I produce for the OS on and offline -- and I'm also looking for
sensibilities that marry those languages. I think often this manifests
in popular poetics as inclusions of meme or pop reference -- and I think
there's a place for that -- but my own scanner, looking at manuscripts
and work, is always seeking out voices that dialogue with the myriad
codes we are required to parse and codeswitch seamlessly in order to not
only function but especially to thrive here.

I think a lot of the work that I select for The OS catalog engages with
a post-colonial, anthropocene intersectionality that dives just as
deeply into ecopoetic concerns -- and all of this with an awareness of
the hyper-written linguistic simulacra of our engagements here. Mark
Gurarie's book, _Everybody's Automat_, as you say here, Margaret, is a
great example of this, as is Judith Goldman's  [18]_agon [18]_ -- yet
none of these authors are overtly engaged with the titular work of
"robot poetics" -- which I think is important to consider. When given an
offer of this language, and versed in its questions, many of our authors
-- and myself -- would certainly consider ourselves to be working there,
but it's never been language that was used. Part of this may simply be
what part of academic life (or entirely non-academic life) folks find
themselves in. So much of the labelling (or lack thereof) has to do with
circles and association.

I've been thinking a lot about Paolo Soleri, whose work I return to
cyclically, and I'm currently writing a short pamphlet drawing on some
of his ideas (for Amanda Ngoho Reavey's Panthalassa Pamphlet series,
speaking of which) - he writes in _The Bridge Between Matter & Spirit is
Matter Becoming Spirit _about Esthetogenesis [19], a process of
self-revelation that becomes possible via evolution -- something he
envisioned as being irrevocably connected to how we as humans construct
our environment.

As