Re: [-empyre-] "Archiving New Media Art: Ephemerality, and/or Sustainability." philosophical approach
Dear Jon First of all congratulations for you work on new media art discipline. I would like to tell you that your contribution in this area is fundamental to my research in new media archive’s ambience. This project is in embryonic state which makes things more difficult to be shown in a practical way. The idea is to investigate intelligent systems on retrieval and organization of information, based on the needs and performance of the interlocutor, the artists, the ambience, the artwork, all the voices of memory. On the other side, to feed these databases (these slots) that will be going to be interfaced with the user, it’s necessary to input an amount of data coming from many origins of media, support, objects, and all items found naturally in digital art. Also, it’s necessary to input some rules to this space to make everything work out. Rules are quite difficult to define in the state of the art of digital works. Either way, this input movement has to consider details, not predictable in traditional ways of archiving art, at the same time that these details must cross with the actual linear process to work with information and why not, even all data stored before. It’s hard to describe in few lines all gaps that must be filled in between the machine, the information, the user, and the whole space architecture. At the moment we’ve decided to do a simple test, running on AIML language, simulating an intelligent system, but working with semantic language. That will be our “Avatar Archive”, or something of the sort, that will talk to the interlocutor. Based on almost 100 artworks, considering about 5 questions per work, we are planning to have all possible answers in conceptual technical field. Test will star in a near future. Maybe retrieving not only the data, but also the logs created by the user event, we can start to create a DNA archive, which will be prepared to talk further with symbolic systems, other slots and with the interlocutor in a friendly way. On another note: I do appreciate the marvelous process to take a single artwork and preserve it. I’m very interesting in the /Variable Media Questionnaire/. I was wondering to apply in some artworks here. Best, Gabriela On 30/09/2010 11:40, Jon Ippolito wrote: Hi Gabriela, On Sep 30, 2010, at 8:53 AM, FILE_Arquivo wrote: This made way to organize this amount of information; it’s facing the instabilities, errors and ephemeralilties as inherent part of the complex electronic/digital art archive ambiancesThis is a philosophical point of view, which we are trying to put in practice, working hard on interface design and in the database structure. Intriguing. Can you give us any more of a glimpse--via a prototype or just textual description--of how this ephemerality-friendly interface and database might work? jon __ Forging the Future: New tools for variable media preservation http://forging-the-future.net/ ___ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au http://www.subtle.net/empyre -- Gabriela Previdello FILE Archive Coordination filearquiv...@gmail.com skypename: gabrielaprevidello 55|11|9896 6644 www.file.org.br ___ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au http://www.subtle.net/empyre
Re: [-empyre-] "Archiving New Media Art: Ephemerality, and/or Sustainability." philosophical approach
Hi Gabriela, On Sep 30, 2010, at 8:53 AM, FILE_Arquivo wrote: > This made way to organize this amount of information; it’s facing the > instabilities, errors and ephemeralilties as inherent part of the complex > electronic/digital art archive ambiancesThis is a philosophical point of > view, which we are trying to put in practice, working hard on interface > design and in the database structure. Intriguing. Can you give us any more of a glimpse--via a prototype or just textual description--of how this ephemerality-friendly interface and database might work? jon __ Forging the Future: New tools for variable media preservation http://forging-the-future.net/ ___ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au http://www.subtle.net/empyre
[-empyre-] "Archiving New Media Art: Ephemerality, and/or Sustainability." philosophical approach
Dear all Thank you very much to Tim Murray and Renate Ferro for the invitation to participate in Empyre soft skinned board of discussion. I also want to congratulate Vanina Hoffman and Renato Dal Farra, people that I've met in Taxonomedia Seminar in Buenos Aires, and the respective works on Taxonomedia Website and the Langlois Foundation I've appreciated for a long time. It's interesting for me to hear here all the experiences on different levels of the digital media arts archive spaces. It contributes a lot to our developments of FILE Archive ambiance (http://www.file.org.br). By the way, I've researched the FILE Archive for a few years and nowadays I'm working on it. As far as the artworks I'm studying in FILE Archive are concerned, the /ephemeral/ is turning into a condensed and heavy cloud of bits. Personally, /ephemerality/ it is positive, it's a potentiality that we need to respect and it's not something that we need to worry about. With all the difficulties that a Latin American archives go through in their structure, equipments and financial things, in FILE Festival history (11 years) the conservation ways conducted to an organic and non linear way of work, totally referenced by the /ephemerality/. This heavy cloud of bits starts to auto organized itself, oriented by FILE local exhibitions and by the concepts in how to show electronic and digital art, task that we must face every year of FILE Festival. /Sustainability/, in this version of festival/archive ambiance, is totally connected to C/omplexity/. This generative perspective of archives is suggesting to the artworks, artists and researches to go deeply in their archive intentions (or events, in a technological term), beyond the common tools of index, search and access. This made way to organize this amount of information; it's facing the instabilities, errors and /ephemeralilties/ as inherent part of the complex electronic/digital art archive ambiances. Therefore, from a /sustainability/ perspective, it's working to allow the sampler, the replicas and the lectures of the potentialities, a way to conserve the artwork and their parts itself. This is a philosophical point of view, which we are trying to put in practice, working hard on interface design and in the database structure. It's a pleasure enjoy Empyre and meet you all! All the Best, -- Gabriela Previdello FILE Archive Coordination filearquiv...@gmail.com skypename: gabrielaprevidello 55|11|9896 6644 www.file.org.br ___ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au http://www.subtle.net/empyre
