Re: [Engine-devel] Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: move disk command)
- Original Message - > > - Original Message - > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Ayal Baron" > > > > To: "Omer Frenkel" > > > > Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" , > > > > "Maor" > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:20:01 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: > > > > Re: > > > > [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > From: "Ayal Baron" > > > > > > To: "Maor" > > > > > > Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" > > > > > > , > > > > > > "Omer Frenkel" > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:21:29 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export > > > > > > (was: > > > > > > Re: > > > > > > [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > On 01/17/2012 11:57 AM, Omer Frenkel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > >> From: "Ayal Baron" > > > > > > > >> To: "Omer Frenkel" > > > > > > > >> Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:45:53 AM > > > > > > > >> Subject: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export > > > > > > > >> (was: > > > > > > > >> Re: > > > > > > > >> [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> [SNIP] > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > This may be unrelated, but user would be allowed to > > > > > > > > export > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > import a floating disk, right? > > > > > > > > I would like the ability to import *any* disk in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > export > > > > > > > > domain > > > > > > > > as a floating disk, but in the least, export and > > > > > > > > import > > > > > > > > disks > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > associated with a VM. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> you are right, it is unrelated, this thread is about > > > > > > > >>> move > > > > > > > >>> disk > > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > > >>> a > > > > > > > >>> vm between SDs, > > > > > > > >>> export and import is copy, and floating disks is part > > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > >>> shared > > > > > > > >>> disk feature, > > > > > > > >>> this indeed need to be discussed in that scope. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Ok, so I've changed the subject, now let's discuss it. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding Maor, > > > > > > > > not sure if we have any plan regard export/import of > > > > > > > > floating > > > > > > > > disk, > > > > > > > > or in general, exporting disk without it's vm (if I > > > > > > > > understood > > > > > > > > Ayal > > > > > > > > correctly) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maor, any comments? > > > > > > > I remember, we mentioned export/import issue in our last > > > > > > > meeting > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > Andrew in the context of shared raw disk. > > > > > > > It was decided then, that export/import will not be > > > > > > > supported > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > shared > > > > > > > raw disk, I'm not sure if we also decided that for > > > > > > > floating > > > > > > > disk, > > > > > > > but I think its a PM decision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Support import/export domain might evolve to a big > > > > > > > change, > > > > > > > since > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > want to export disk, we might also want to reflect all > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > configuration > > > > > > > and functionality there, also reflect disks which are > > > > > > > attached > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > VMs > > > > > > > and templates as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > What properties does a disk have? > > > > > > Interface is what type of connection is used when plugging > > > > > > the > > > > > > disk > > > > > > in the computer (VM) so it's not really a disk property. > > > > > > Address is also VM specific > > > > > > Description is already stored in storage side. > > > > > > What else do you have for disk? > > > > > > > > > > type (system/data..) > > > > > > > > Didn't we recently have a discussion about this being > > > > irrelevant? > > > > > > as long it is visible to the user, no. > > > > It's meaningless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > post-zero > > > > > > > > Can assume always true > > > > > > i disagree > > > > It's the default behaviour for files, no reason to not allow users > > to > > import disk because of this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > name(?) > > > > > > > > This exists on storage side > > > > > > in addition to description? > > > > there is uuid and description, do you store in addition another > > name? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > creation-date > > > > > > > > When imported >
Re: [Engine-devel] Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: move disk command)
- Original Message - > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Ayal Baron" > > > To: "Omer Frenkel" > > > Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" , > > > "Maor" > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:20:01 AM > > > Subject: Re: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: > > > [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: "Ayal Baron" > > > > > To: "Maor" > > > > > Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" > > > > > , > > > > > "Omer Frenkel" > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:21:29 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: > > > > > Re: > > > > > [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > On 01/17/2012 11:57 AM, Omer Frenkel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > >> From: "Ayal Baron" > > > > > > >> To: "Omer Frenkel" > > > > > > >> Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:45:53 AM > > > > > > >> Subject: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: > > > > > > >> Re: > > > > > > >> [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> [SNIP] > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This may be unrelated, but user would be allowed to > > > > > > > export > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > import a floating disk, right? > > > > > > > I would like the ability to import *any* disk in the > > > > > > > export > > > > > > > domain > > > > > > > as a floating disk, but in the least, export and > > > > > > > import > > > > > > > disks > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > associated with a VM. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> you are right, it is unrelated, this thread is about > > > > > > >>> move > > > > > > >>> disk > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > >>> a > > > > > > >>> vm between SDs, > > > > > > >>> export and import is copy, and floating disks is part > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > >>> the > > > > > > >>> shared > > > > > > >>> disk feature, > > > > > > >>> this indeed need to be discussed in that scope. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Ok, so I've changed the subject, now let's discuss it. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding Maor, > > > > > > > not sure if we have any plan regard export/import of > > > > > > > floating > > > > > > > disk, > > > > > > > or in general, exporting disk without it's vm (if I > > > > > > > understood > > > > > > > Ayal > > > > > > > correctly) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maor, any comments? > > > > > > I remember, we mentioned export/import issue in our last > > > > > > meeting > > > > > > with > > > > > > Andrew in the context of shared raw disk. > > > > > > It was decided then, that export/import will not be > > > > > > supported > > > > > > by > > > > > > shared > > > > > > raw disk, I'm not sure if we also decided that for floating > > > > > > disk, > > > > > > but I think its a PM decision. > > > > > > > > > > > > Support import/export domain might evolve to a big change, > > > > > > since > > > > > > if > > > > > > we > > > > > > want to export disk, we might also want to reflect all its > > > > > > configuration > > > > > > and functionality there, also reflect disks which are > > > > > > attached > > > > > > to > > > > > > VMs > > > > > > and templates as well. > > > > > > > > > > What properties does a disk have? > > > > > Interface is what type of connection is used when plugging > > > > > the > > > > > disk > > > > > in the computer (VM) so it's not really a disk property. > > > > > Address is also VM specific > > > > > Description is already stored in storage side. > > > > > What else do you have for disk? > > > > > > > > type (system/data..) > > > > > > Didn't we recently have a discussion about this being irrelevant? > > > > as long it is visible to the user, no. > > It's meaningless. > > > > > > > > > > post-zero > > > > > > Can assume always true > > > > i disagree > > It's the default behaviour for files, no reason to not allow users to > import disk because of this. > > > > > > > > > > name(?) > > > > > > This exists on storage side > > > > in addition to description? > > there is uuid and description, do you store in addition another name? > > > > > > > > > > creation-date > > > > > > When imported > > > > no! > > Hmmm, I love how elaborate your explanations are. > It's common with files, no reason to treat differently. > > > > > > > > > > last modify date > > > > > > This exists on storage side > > > > > > > application-list > > > > > > Has nothing to do with disk, it's a VM property > > > > no! > > Again, very elaborate... > VM has 3 disks, guest reports app-list for the VM, how do you > determine which disk has which apps? > If this is cu
Re: [Engine-devel] Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: move disk command)
- Original Message - > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ayal Baron" > > To: "Omer Frenkel" > > Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" , > > "Maor" > > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:20:01 AM > > Subject: Re: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: > > [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Ayal Baron" > > > > To: "Maor" > > > > Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" , > > > > "Omer Frenkel" > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:21:29 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: > > > > Re: > > > > [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > On 01/17/2012 11:57 AM, Omer Frenkel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > >> From: "Ayal Baron" > > > > > >> To: "Omer Frenkel" > > > > > >> Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:45:53 AM > > > > > >> Subject: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: > > > > > >> Re: > > > > > >> [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> [SNIP] > > > > > >> > > > > > > This may be unrelated, but user would be allowed to > > > > > > export > > > > > > and > > > > > > import a floating disk, right? > > > > > > I would like the ability to import *any* disk in the > > > > > > export > > > > > > domain > > > > > > as a floating disk, but in the least, export and import > > > > > > disks > > > > > > not > > > > > > associated with a VM. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> you are right, it is unrelated, this thread is about move > > > > > >>> disk > > > > > >>> of > > > > > >>> a > > > > > >>> vm between SDs, > > > > > >>> export and import is copy, and floating disks is part of > > > > > >>> the > > > > > >>> shared > > > > > >>> disk feature, > > > > > >>> this indeed need to be discussed in that scope. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Ok, so I've changed the subject, now let's discuss it. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding Maor, > > > > > > not sure if we have any plan regard export/import of > > > > > > floating > > > > > > disk, > > > > > > or in general, exporting disk without it's vm (if I > > > > > > understood > > > > > > Ayal > > > > > > correctly) > > > > > > > > > > > > Maor, any comments? > > > > > I remember, we mentioned export/import issue in our last > > > > > meeting > > > > > with > > > > > Andrew in the context of shared raw disk. > > > > > It was decided then, that export/import will not be supported > > > > > by > > > > > shared > > > > > raw disk, I'm not sure if we also decided that for floating > > > > > disk, > > > > > but I think its a PM decision. > > > > > > > > > > Support import/export domain might evolve to a big change, > > > > > since > > > > > if > > > > > we > > > > > want to export disk, we might also want to reflect all its > > > > > configuration > > > > > and functionality there, also reflect disks which are > > > > > attached > > > > > to > > > > > VMs > > > > > and templates as well. > > > > > > > > What properties does a disk have? > > > > Interface is what type of connection is used when plugging the > > > > disk > > > > in the computer (VM) so it's not really a disk property. > > > > Address is also VM specific > > > > Description is already stored in storage side. > > > > What else do you have for disk? > > > > > > type (system/data..) > > > > Didn't we recently have a discussion about this being irrelevant? > > as long it is visible to the user, no. It's meaningless. > > > > > > post-zero > > > > Can assume always true > > i disagree It's the default behaviour for files, no reason to not allow users to import disk because of this. > > > > > > name(?) > > > > This exists on storage side > > in addition to description? there is uuid and description, do you store in addition another name? > > > > > > creation-date > > > > When imported > > no! Hmmm, I love how elaborate your explanations are. It's common with files, no reason to treat differently. > > > > > > last modify date > > > > This exists on storage side > > > > > application-list > > > > Has nothing to do with disk, it's a VM property > > no! Again, very elaborate... VM has 3 disks, guest reports app-list for the VM, how do you determine which disk has which apps? If this is currently a disk property in engine then it's a bug. > > > > > > volume type and format > > > > This exists on storage side > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that being able to import floating disks means that we'd > > > > be > > > > able > > > > to take any data storage domain and import any disk(s) from it > > > > (assuming user changes domain type to export domain, which > > > > users > > > > already know how to do) > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: [Engine-devel] Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: move disk command)
- Original Message - > From: "Ayal Baron" > To: "Omer Frenkel" > Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" , "Maor" > > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:20:01 AM > Subject: Re: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: > [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Ayal Baron" > > > To: "Maor" > > > Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" , > > > "Omer Frenkel" > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:21:29 PM > > > Subject: Re: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: > > > [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > On 01/17/2012 11:57 AM, Omer Frenkel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > >> From: "Ayal Baron" > > > > >> To: "Omer Frenkel" > > > > >> Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" > > > > >> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:45:53 AM > > > > >> Subject: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: > > > > >> [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> [SNIP] > > > > >> > > > > > This may be unrelated, but user would be allowed to > > > > > export > > > > > and > > > > > import a floating disk, right? > > > > > I would like the ability to import *any* disk in the > > > > > export > > > > > domain > > > > > as a floating disk, but in the least, export and import > > > > > disks > > > > > not > > > > > associated with a VM. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> you are right, it is unrelated, this thread is about move > > > > >>> disk > > > > >>> of > > > > >>> a > > > > >>> vm between SDs, > > > > >>> export and import is copy, and floating disks is part of > > > > >>> the > > > > >>> shared > > > > >>> disk feature, > > > > >>> this indeed need to be discussed in that scope. > > > > >> > > > > >> Ok, so I've changed the subject, now let's discuss it. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Adding Maor, > > > > > not sure if we have any plan regard export/import of floating > > > > > disk, > > > > > or in general, exporting disk without it's vm (if I > > > > > understood > > > > > Ayal > > > > > correctly) > > > > > > > > > > Maor, any comments? > > > > I remember, we mentioned export/import issue in our last > > > > meeting > > > > with > > > > Andrew in the context of shared raw disk. > > > > It was decided then, that export/import will not be supported > > > > by > > > > shared > > > > raw disk, I'm not sure if we also decided that for floating > > > > disk, > > > > but I think its a PM decision. > > > > > > > > Support import/export domain might evolve to a big change, > > > > since > > > > if > > > > we > > > > want to export disk, we might also want to reflect all its > > > > configuration > > > > and functionality there, also reflect disks which are attached > > > > to > > > > VMs > > > > and templates as well. > > > > > > What properties does a disk have? > > > Interface is what type of connection is used when plugging the > > > disk > > > in the computer (VM) so it's not really a disk property. > > > Address is also VM specific > > > Description is already stored in storage side. > > > What else do you have for disk? > > > > type (system/data..) > > Didn't we recently have a discussion about this being irrelevant? as long it is visible to the user, no. > > > post-zero > > Can assume always true i disagree > > > name(?) > > This exists on storage side in addition to description? > > > creation-date > > When imported no! > > > last modify date > > This exists on storage side > > > application-list > > Has nothing to do with disk, it's a VM property no! > > > volume type and format > > This exists on storage side > > > > > > > > > Note that being able to import floating disks means that we'd be > > > able > > > to take any data storage domain and import any disk(s) from it > > > (assuming user changes domain type to export domain, which users > > > already know how to do) > > > > > > > > > ___ Engine-devel mailing list Engine-devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
Re: [Engine-devel] Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: move disk command)
- Original Message - > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ayal Baron" > > To: "Maor" > > Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" , > > "Omer Frenkel" > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:21:29 PM > > Subject: Re: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: > > [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > On 01/17/2012 11:57 AM, Omer Frenkel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > >> From: "Ayal Baron" > > > >> To: "Omer Frenkel" > > > >> Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:45:53 AM > > > >> Subject: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: > > > >> [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> [SNIP] > > > >> > > > > This may be unrelated, but user would be allowed to export > > > > and > > > > import a floating disk, right? > > > > I would like the ability to import *any* disk in the export > > > > domain > > > > as a floating disk, but in the least, export and import > > > > disks > > > > not > > > > associated with a VM. > > > >>> > > > >>> you are right, it is unrelated, this thread is about move > > > >>> disk > > > >>> of > > > >>> a > > > >>> vm between SDs, > > > >>> export and import is copy, and floating disks is part of the > > > >>> shared > > > >>> disk feature, > > > >>> this indeed need to be discussed in that scope. > > > >> > > > >> Ok, so I've changed the subject, now let's discuss it. > > > >> > > > > > > > > Adding Maor, > > > > not sure if we have any plan regard export/import of floating > > > > disk, > > > > or in general, exporting disk without it's vm (if I understood > > > > Ayal > > > > correctly) > > > > > > > > Maor, any comments? > > > I remember, we mentioned export/import issue in our last meeting > > > with > > > Andrew in the context of shared raw disk. > > > It was decided then, that export/import will not be supported by > > > shared > > > raw disk, I'm not sure if we also decided that for floating disk, > > > but I think its a PM decision. > > > > > > Support import/export domain might evolve to a big change, since > > > if > > > we > > > want to export disk, we might also want to reflect all its > > > configuration > > > and functionality there, also reflect disks which are attached to > > > VMs > > > and templates as well. > > > > What properties does a disk have? > > Interface is what type of connection is used when plugging the disk > > in the computer (VM) so it's not really a disk property. > > Address is also VM specific > > Description is already stored in storage side. > > What else do you have for disk? > > type (system/data..) Didn't we recently have a discussion about this being irrelevant? > post-zero Can assume always true > name(?) This exists on storage side > creation-date When imported > last modify date This exists on storage side > application-list Has nothing to do with disk, it's a VM property > volume type and format This exists on storage side > > > > > Note that being able to import floating disks means that we'd be > > able > > to take any data storage domain and import any disk(s) from it > > (assuming user changes domain type to export domain, which users > > already know how to do) > > > > > ___ Engine-devel mailing list Engine-devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
Re: [Engine-devel] Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: move disk command)
- Original Message - > From: "Ayal Baron" > To: "Maor" > Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" , "Omer Frenkel" > > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:21:29 PM > Subject: Re: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: > [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > > > - Original Message - > > On 01/17/2012 11:57 AM, Omer Frenkel wrote: > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > >> From: "Ayal Baron" > > >> To: "Omer Frenkel" > > >> Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:45:53 AM > > >> Subject: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: > > >> [Engine-devel] move disk command) > > >> > > >> > > >> [SNIP] > > >> > > > This may be unrelated, but user would be allowed to export > > > and > > > import a floating disk, right? > > > I would like the ability to import *any* disk in the export > > > domain > > > as a floating disk, but in the least, export and import disks > > > not > > > associated with a VM. > > >>> > > >>> you are right, it is unrelated, this thread is about move disk > > >>> of > > >>> a > > >>> vm between SDs, > > >>> export and import is copy, and floating disks is part of the > > >>> shared > > >>> disk feature, > > >>> this indeed need to be discussed in that scope. > > >> > > >> Ok, so I've changed the subject, now let's discuss it. > > >> > > > > > > Adding Maor, > > > not sure if we have any plan regard export/import of floating > > > disk, > > > or in general, exporting disk without it's vm (if I understood > > > Ayal > > > correctly) > > > > > > Maor, any comments? > > I remember, we mentioned export/import issue in our last meeting > > with > > Andrew in the context of shared raw disk. > > It was decided then, that export/import will not be supported by > > shared > > raw disk, I'm not sure if we also decided that for floating disk, > > but I think its a PM decision. > > > > Support import/export domain might evolve to a big change, since if > > we > > want to export disk, we might also want to reflect all its > > configuration > > and functionality there, also reflect disks which are attached to > > VMs > > and templates as well. > > What properties does a disk have? > Interface is what type of connection is used when plugging the disk > in the computer (VM) so it's not really a disk property. > Address is also VM specific > Description is already stored in storage side. > What else do you have for disk? type (system/data..) post-zero name(?) creation-date last modify date application-list volume type and format > > Note that being able to import floating disks means that we'd be able > to take any data storage domain and import any disk(s) from it > (assuming user changes domain type to export domain, which users > already know how to do) > > ___ Engine-devel mailing list Engine-devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
Re: [Engine-devel] Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: move disk command)
- Original Message - > On 01/17/2012 11:57 AM, Omer Frenkel wrote: > > > > > > - Original Message - > >> From: "Ayal Baron" > >> To: "Omer Frenkel" > >> Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:45:53 AM > >> Subject: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: > >> [Engine-devel] move disk command) > >> > >> > >> [SNIP] > >> > > This may be unrelated, but user would be allowed to export and > > import a floating disk, right? > > I would like the ability to import *any* disk in the export > > domain > > as a floating disk, but in the least, export and import disks > > not > > associated with a VM. > >>> > >>> you are right, it is unrelated, this thread is about move disk of > >>> a > >>> vm between SDs, > >>> export and import is copy, and floating disks is part of the > >>> shared > >>> disk feature, > >>> this indeed need to be discussed in that scope. > >> > >> Ok, so I've changed the subject, now let's discuss it. > >> > > > > Adding Maor, > > not sure if we have any plan regard export/import of floating disk, > > or in general, exporting disk without it's vm (if I understood Ayal > > correctly) > > > > Maor, any comments? > I remember, we mentioned export/import issue in our last meeting with > Andrew in the context of shared raw disk. > It was decided then, that export/import will not be supported by > shared > raw disk, I'm not sure if we also decided that for floating disk, > but I think its a PM decision. > > Support import/export domain might evolve to a big change, since if > we > want to export disk, we might also want to reflect all its > configuration > and functionality there, also reflect disks which are attached to VMs > and templates as well. What properties does a disk have? Interface is what type of connection is used when plugging the disk in the computer (VM) so it's not really a disk property. Address is also VM specific Description is already stored in storage side. What else do you have for disk? Note that being able to import floating disks means that we'd be able to take any data storage domain and import any disk(s) from it (assuming user changes domain type to export domain, which users already know how to do) ___ Engine-devel mailing list Engine-devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
Re: [Engine-devel] Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: move disk command)
On 01/17/2012 11:57 AM, Omer Frenkel wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> From: "Ayal Baron" >> To: "Omer Frenkel" >> Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:45:53 AM >> Subject: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: [Engine-devel] >> move disk command) >> >> >> [SNIP] >> > This may be unrelated, but user would be allowed to export and > import a floating disk, right? > I would like the ability to import *any* disk in the export > domain > as a floating disk, but in the least, export and import disks > not > associated with a VM. >>> >>> you are right, it is unrelated, this thread is about move disk of a >>> vm between SDs, >>> export and import is copy, and floating disks is part of the shared >>> disk feature, >>> this indeed need to be discussed in that scope. >> >> Ok, so I've changed the subject, now let's discuss it. >> > > Adding Maor, > not sure if we have any plan regard export/import of floating disk, > or in general, exporting disk without it's vm (if I understood Ayal correctly) > > Maor, any comments? I remember, we mentioned export/import issue in our last meeting with Andrew in the context of shared raw disk. It was decided then, that export/import will not be supported by shared raw disk, I'm not sure if we also decided that for floating disk, but I think its a PM decision. Support import/export domain might evolve to a big change, since if we want to export disk, we might also want to reflect all its configuration and functionality there, also reflect disks which are attached to VMs and templates as well. ___ Engine-devel mailing list Engine-devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
Re: [Engine-devel] Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: move disk command)
- Original Message - > From: "Ayal Baron" > To: "Omer Frenkel" > Cc: engine-devel@ovirt.org, "Jon Choate" > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:45:53 AM > Subject: Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: [Engine-devel] > move disk command) > > > [SNIP] > > > > > This may be unrelated, but user would be allowed to export and > > > > import a floating disk, right? > > > > I would like the ability to import *any* disk in the export > > > > domain > > > > as a floating disk, but in the least, export and import disks > > > > not > > > > associated with a VM. > > > > you are right, it is unrelated, this thread is about move disk of a > > vm between SDs, > > export and import is copy, and floating disks is part of the shared > > disk feature, > > this indeed need to be discussed in that scope. > > Ok, so I've changed the subject, now let's discuss it. > Adding Maor, not sure if we have any plan regard export/import of floating disk, or in general, exporting disk without it's vm (if I understood Ayal correctly) Maor, any comments? ___ Engine-devel mailing list Engine-devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
[Engine-devel] Shared disk / Floating disk import/export (was: Re: move disk command)
[SNIP] > > > This may be unrelated, but user would be allowed to export and > > > import a floating disk, right? > > > I would like the ability to import *any* disk in the export > > > domain > > > as a floating disk, but in the least, export and import disks not > > > associated with a VM. > > you are right, it is unrelated, this thread is about move disk of a > vm between SDs, > export and import is copy, and floating disks is part of the shared > disk feature, > this indeed need to be discussed in that scope. Ok, so I've changed the subject, now let's discuss it. ___ Engine-devel mailing list Engine-devel@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
