[Engine-users] again plugins

2006-11-24 Thread Hendy Irawan
http://www.pluginaweek.org/2006/11/24/6-plugin_routing-share-your-views-with-the-world/

This is getting weirder. 99% of whetever written on that site is
applicable to Rails Engines. I mean, if you follow almost every
article there, but install Rails Engines instead of their plugins, I
think it just works.

For now, the difference seems that an "engine" needs to be "an engine"
(specially crafted). While in their version, all you need to do is
just create a plugin, follow some conventions (like putting stuff in
app/ subdirectory), and install the pluginaweek plugins (which are,
well, 6 plugins?)

When Engines can get rid of the "Engines.start" thingy and allows
easier creation of engines (i.e. not that much difference between
plugins and engines, just follow some simple conventions like
directory names)... how will Engines and pluginaweek matches? In my
mind Engines will be just
all-pluginaweek-plugins-built-inside-one-plugin or the other way
around. Weird.

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Re: [Engine-users] again plugins

2006-11-24 Thread James Adam
The 1.2 release will basically get rid of Engines.start, since Rails
now includes a mechanism to control plugin loading order... hopefully
that will stab the concept of 'installing an engine' in the heart, and
everything will just be plugins again. Finally. It's only taken about
a year :)

On 11/24/06, Hendy Irawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.pluginaweek.org/2006/11/24/6-plugin_routing-share-your-views-with-the-world/
>
> This is getting weirder. 99% of whetever written on that site is
> applicable to Rails Engines. I mean, if you follow almost every
> article there, but install Rails Engines instead of their plugins, I
> think it just works.
>
> For now, the difference seems that an "engine" needs to be "an engine"
> (specially crafted). While in their version, all you need to do is
> just create a plugin, follow some conventions (like putting stuff in
> app/ subdirectory), and install the pluginaweek plugins (which are,
> well, 6 plugins?)
>
> When Engines can get rid of the "Engines.start" thingy and allows
> easier creation of engines (i.e. not that much difference between
> plugins and engines, just follow some simple conventions like
> directory names)... how will Engines and pluginaweek matches? In my
> mind Engines will be just
> all-pluginaweek-plugins-built-inside-one-plugin or the other way
> around. Weird.
>
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[Engine-users] Better Login-engine ?

2006-11-24 Thread Wybo Wiersma
> already on the case here (search this list for 'hark', for instance,
> and of course there is ActiveRBAC). I'd much prefer it if I personally

I had some time to look into alternatives for LoginEngine, but
actually hark is not even an engine yet. Also I couldn't find
any other engines. Lots of generators, but those leave you with
static code that benefits nada from code-sharing, and fixes that
are made later on...

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Re: [Engine-users] again plugins

2006-11-24 Thread Hendy Irawan
On 11/24/06, James Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The 1.2 release will basically get rid of Engines.start, since Rails
> now includes a mechanism to control plugin loading order... hopefully
> that will stab the concept of 'installing an engine' in the heart, and
> everything will just be plugins again. Finally. It's only taken about
> a year :)
so, what will happen with engines plugin?
what will happen with pluginaweek?
are they gonna join forces?

this sounds more like KDE vs GNOME to me.

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[Engine-users] edge engines + Rails 1.2RC1

2006-11-24 Thread Hendy Irawan
Does Engines edge (svn) works with Rails 1.2RC1?

Will Engines be split in two (pre-1.2 and 1.2.x), or there will still
be one engines plugin that supports both Rails 1.1.x and 1.2.x ?

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