[Enigmail] Updating 'Enigmail Configuration Manual'.

2014-12-31 Thread Hans Deragon
Greetings,

I believe that the /'Enigmail Configuration Manual/' found at
https://www.enigmail.net/documentation/userprefs.php needs to be
updated.  Everywhere it references 'UI: OpenPGP  Preferences' but I
fail to find any 'OpenPGP' menu in Thunderbird.  I do see 'UI: 
Enigmail  Preferences'.

Also, I cannot find the corresponding UI for
'user_pref(extensions.enigmail.noPassphrase,false);'.  Is there
such an option still available from the UI?

Using Enigmail 1.7.2.

Best regards,
Hans Deragon


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Re: [Enigmail] Updating 'Enigmail Configuration Manual'.

2014-12-31 Thread Philip Jackson
On 31/12/14 10:54, Hans Deragon wrote:

 Also, I cannot find the corresponding UI for
 'user_pref(extensions.enigmail.noPassphrase,false);'.  Is there
 such an option still available from the UI?
 
 Using Enigmail 1.7.2.

In Thunderbird, go to the Preferences dialog : Advanced / General tab and click
on 'Config Editor'

When the config editor opens, type in the search box 'extensions.enigmail' to
see the full listing of enigmail user preferences.

Philip



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Re: [Enigmail] Updating 'Enigmail Configuration Manual'.

2014-12-31 Thread Ludwig Hügelschäfer
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Hi,

On 31.12.14 10:54, Hans Deragon wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I believe that the /'Enigmail Configuration Manual/' found at
 https://www.enigmail.net/documentation/userprefs.php needs to be
 updated.

Yes, documentation is lagging considerably behind code and UI
development. We are aware of this but we are the lacking manpower to
keep both synchronous.

 Everywhere it references 'UI: OpenPGP  Preferences' but I
 fail to find any 'OpenPGP' menu in Thunderbird.  I do see 'UI: 
 Enigmail  Preferences'.

The whole menu was renamed from OpenPGP to Enigmail because people
can better identify this with the name of the Extension they installed.
Enigmail is the name of the website, the mailinglist, etc.

OpenPGP is the standard used by Enigmail, or better: the underlying GnuPG.

 Also, I cannot find the corresponding UI for
 'user_pref(extensions.enigmail.noPassphrase,false);'.  Is there
 such an option still available from the UI?

This option is still in the preferences panel, but will be hidden if you
use a GnuPG version  2.0, where gpg-agent is used to handle passphrases.

In fact, this option is only necessary for gpg version 1.x and for
handling keys without a passphrase, a very rare use case.

HTH

Ludwig

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Re: [Enigmail] General Opinion and unverified bug

2014-12-31 Thread Robert J. Hansen
 DISCLAIMER: I'm not sure if that happened exactly this way and if I can
 reproduce this bug, because I have no Windows machine to test this case.
 I'll later set up a new environment (on my Linux machine) to try if I
 can reproduce this bug.

If you can reproduce this problem, we would be very interested in fixing it.

 If it is really the case, that this bug is existing, it would make me
 really angry.

If the bug exists, then by all means get angry — I would, too.  But if the bug 
*doesn’t* exist, then won’t you have gotten angry over nothing, and don’t you 
deserve better than that?

 With all due respect on the work of Enigmail and its developers, it's
 just terrible. Maybe you ask, if I haven't complained earlier. Yeah it
 is bad, and I'm too lazy to report bugs, but I also think that there is
 no chance to change a lot on Enigmail, because I have the feeling, that
 your reports will not change much, as long as the current developers of
 Enigmail are leading the development.

Enigmail is in a very interesting position, and one that’s shared by a lot of 
open-source software projects: a lot of people rely on it but astonishingly few 
are willing to contribute in a meaningful way.

Two members of the Enigmail team are “contaminated” by US government 
associations.  John Moore used to work at Fort Meade when he was with the 
United States Marine Corps, and my father’s a United States federal judge.  If 
either of us ever touched the codebase, many people would consider Enigmail to 
be “tainted” by our work.  So right there, of the already-small group, two of 
us can’t do any development work.  Other people have their own limitations: 
some of us aren’t coders, for instance.

Of the small Enigmail team, we have only two people who (a) are free of 
government connections, (b) can program in JavaScript and C++, and (c) have 
experience writing secure software.  Of these two, both have full-time jobs and 
neither can contribute more than a few hours a week to Enigmail.

The problem is not that the current developers are lazy or not up to the job.  
The problem is that there are so few developers, with such limited time, 
maintaining a project that has to work consistently across over a dozen 
different operating systems, even when repackaged by people who may not do a 
particularly good job of it.

It’s a really hard problem, made worse by a lack of funding and a lack of 
manpower.  GnuPG and OpenSSL both have the exact same problem: they need to 
support a lot of platforms and have to do so with a tremendous shortage of 
resources.

 I hope I will find the time and be in a mood to write a new
 Icedove/Thunderbird-AddOn, so I can put Enigmail to the trash bin and
 you can complain about my AddOn.

I promise you that if you can do a better job than we do, I’ll be one of the 
first people using your code.

Until then, I’m going to stick with Enigmail.

Thanks for your email, and please let us know if you’re able to recreate that 
bug.  We really are interested in it.



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