[Enigmail] spontaneous change of message status

2015-03-12 Thread Philip Jackson
Using Thunderbird 31.5.0 with Enigmail version 1.8a1pre (20150312-0013) on 
linux.

Recently, I've been paying a lot of attention to the new interface in enigmail
especially the enigmail toolbar when writing emails.  From time to time, I've
had the impression that a message which started out as 'This message will be
signed' with only the 'sign message' check box checked in the Enigmail
Encryption and Signing Settings box, has changed itself without my intervention
to 'This message will be encrypted' with the 'Encrypt Message' box ticked
instead of the 'sign message' box.

I've spent a little time this evening trying to track it down.  (and
incidentally, it has just happened in this message).  I do not understand
exactly why it's happening but I've found a couple of parameters involved.

For this spontaneous change to occur, one needs these factors to exist :

1. the 'To' field is in red type (with a red cursor)
2. the 'To' field must be completed and not left blank
3. the spontaneous change in message status occurs around five or six minutes
into the creation of the email - the body can be blank or partly filled.

What I don't understand is why sometimes I get a red cursor/ text in the 'To'
field and sometimes black.  I can provoke a red address field entry by making
any address incomplete but my address for enigmail-users seems correct and 
complete.

Anyway - that is what I've found.  If anyone can shed any light on this
'happening', I would be pleased.

But I do consider that a spontaneous change to established message conditions
should not occur.

Philip



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[Enigmail] Enigmail alert disables Thunderbird menu icon

2015-03-12 Thread Philip Jackson
I receive a signed message from a friend and it has a pink Enigmail header that
the signature verification has failed.  I am curious as to which key he used so
I click 'Details' and the Enigmail Alert box is displayed and shows me the
public key ID used to sign the message.

I can't recall his key id from my head so I try to open enigmail's key manager
by clicking on the Thunderbird menu icon while leaving the enigmail alert
message displayed on the side for reference.  The Thunderbird menu icon is
disabled while the enigmail alert is displayed.

I can get to the key manager by selecting Enigmail/key management from the
Thunderbird menu bar  which I normally don't have displayed because I use the
toolbar icon instead.

It looks like the Thunderbird Menu bar behaves independently of the Thunderbird
menu icon on the toolbar although they provide equivalent functionality.
Generally, using the toolbar icon allows to save some vertical real estate on
the display so it would be nice if the enigmail alert didn't disable this icon.

Is this easily achievable ?

Philip



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Re: [Enigmail] key management repetitive behaviour

2015-03-12 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
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On 12.03.15 18:13, Philip Jackson wrote:
> In enigmail's key manager,
> 
> 1. select someone else's public key (one which has a photoID) 2.
> view the key properties 3. click 'select action' and select photoID
> - photoID is displayed 4. In photoID display box, click 'View key
> properties' - key properties is displayed
> 
> 5. repeat steps 3 and 4 (possibly ad infinitum ?) and build up a
> stack of superposed photoID and key properties boxes.
> 
> This doesn't appear to be the best display philosophy although it
> doesn't represent any security threat.

Yes, I'm aware of this - you're certainly right that this is sub-optimal
.

> Would it be possible to grey out the 'Key Properties' button in the
> photoID box if the key properties box is already open (and vice
> versa, if you see what I mean) ?

I'm aware of it for many years. It's interesting though that it took
so long until someone else points to this. But I honestly don't think
it's a big issue.

To the content: it goes further than what just the 2 dialogs you
mention. You can do the same with "View Signatures" (and possibly
other dialogs). You can thus create a "loop" of at least 3 different
types of dialogs, which makes things a lot more complex. The easiest
solution would be to switch from modal dialogs to non-modal dialogs
(and then just "jump" back to the already open window). But I'm not
sure if that's a good idea either.

- -Patrick


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[Enigmail] key management repetitive behaviour

2015-03-12 Thread Philip Jackson
In enigmail's key manager,

1. select someone else's public key (one which has a photoID)
2. view the key properties
3. click 'select action' and select photoID - photoID is displayed
4. In photoID display box, click 'View key properties' - key properties is 
displayed

5. repeat steps 3 and 4 (possibly ad infinitum ?) and build up a stack of
superposed photoID and key properties boxes.

This doesn't appear to be the best display philosophy although it doesn't
represent any security threat.

Would it be possible to grey out the 'Key Properties' button in the photoID box
if the key properties box is already open (and vice versa, if you see what I
mean) ?

Philip



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