Re: [Enigmail] strange unrequested display of signatures

2015-05-06 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
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On 06.05.15 23:11, Philip Jackson wrote:
> On 06/05/15 18:05, Patrick at wrote:
>> On 03.05.15 13:54, Philip Jackson wrote:
>>> using enigmail 1.8.2 with Ubuntu 1404 and Thunderbird 31.6.0
>> 
>>> A signed incoming email had displayed below the text a colon 
>>> separated sub-listing ( about 250 lines) of some parts of my
>>> public keyring.  Some fields are truncated.  In fact every line
>>> is truncated at max 58 characters.  They are of this form :
>> 
>>> 1:3F0111222EEE4449:K::? 1:3F0111222EEE4449:U:::m:::Xxxx
>>> Yyyy :
>> 
>> 
>>> This unexpected listing is below the text but before the 
>>> "** *END ENCRYPTED or SIGNED PART* **" marker.
>> 
>>> Beyond selecting the email in the Inbox tab listing, I did not 
>>> click on any other button, menu item of enigmail or
>>> thunderbird.
>> 
>>> I have seen this effect once before (around a week or 10 days'
>>> ago) and it disappeared when I focused on another message.  I
>>> could not get it back by reopening the 'offending' message.
>> 
>>> This time, I've saved the enigmail debug and copied the whole
>>> of the displayed text - so I do have a record this time.  Once
>>> the focus goes to another message, this strange listing does
>>> not reappear.
>> 
>>> Has anyone seen similar episodes ?
>> 
>>> Patrick - let me know if you'd like the files.
>> 
>> I can see in the log that you have enabled "--list-packets"
>> and/or enabled gpg debugging.
> 
> In enigmail preferences/Advanced/Additional parameters for GnuPG,
> I have "-v" set.
> 
>> 
>> It seems to me that the sender's key was automatically
>> downloaded while you were viewing / verifying the message and
>> this looks like some part of the output from re-calculating the
>> trustdb.
>> 
>> If I'm right, then you should be able to reproduce this behavior
>> by deleting the sender's key, re-calculating the trustdb and then
>> viewing the message again.
> 
> You are right, Patrick.  I just tried your suggestions. I deleted
> the key, did a --check-trustdb and then reopened the email
> concerned. A similar (possibly identical) listing appeared just
> before the closing marker for the End of encrypted or signed part.
> 
> I then removed the "-v" from the preferences and repeated the
> procedure.  The unwanted listing was not there.
> 
> I restored the "-v" preference, repeated the procedure and the
> unwanted listing is back.
> 
> So your supposition is correct.  It seems that enabling verbose
> logging causes the unwanted listing to appear when a new key is
> imported and the trustdb recalculated.  That seems to me to be an
> unwanted / undesirable bug.
> 
> I don't suppose you class it as a feature ?

The problem is that -v causes GnuPG to output more stuff. If that
output goes to stdout, then Enigmail cannot distinguish this from
"other" output. I assume that this is a little bug in GnuPG as I think
that verbose output should normally go to stderr.

I cannot see how this could be fixed in Enigmail in any way.

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Re: [Enigmail] strange unrequested display of signatures

2015-05-06 Thread Philip Jackson
On 06/05/15 18:05, Patrick at wrote:
> On 03.05.15 13:54, Philip Jackson wrote:
>> using enigmail 1.8.2 with Ubuntu 1404 and Thunderbird 31.6.0
> 
>> A signed incoming email had displayed below the text a colon
>> separated sub-listing ( about 250 lines) of some parts of my public
>> keyring.  Some fields are truncated.  In fact every line is
>> truncated at max 58 characters.  They are of this form :
> 
>> 1:3F0111222EEE4449:K::? 1:3F0111222EEE4449:U:::m:::Xxxx Yyyy
>> :
> 
> 
>> This unexpected listing is below the text but before the
>> "** *END ENCRYPTED or SIGNED PART* **" marker.
> 
>> Beyond selecting the email in the Inbox tab listing, I did not
>> click on any other button, menu item of enigmail or thunderbird.
> 
>> I have seen this effect once before (around a week or 10 days' ago)
>> and it disappeared when I focused on another message.  I could not
>> get it back by reopening the 'offending' message.
> 
>> This time, I've saved the enigmail debug and copied the whole of
>> the displayed text - so I do have a record this time.  Once the
>> focus goes to another message, this strange listing does not
>> reappear.
> 
>> Has anyone seen similar episodes ?
> 
>> Patrick - let me know if you'd like the files.
> 
> I can see in the log that you have enabled "--list-packets" and/or
> enabled gpg debugging.

In enigmail preferences/Advanced/Additional parameters for GnuPG,  I have "-v" 
set.

> 
> It seems to me that the sender's key was automatically downloaded
> while you were viewing / verifying the message and this looks like
> some part of the output from re-calculating the trustdb.
> 
> If I'm right, then you should be able to reproduce this behavior by
> deleting the sender's key, re-calculating the trustdb and then viewing
> the message again.

You are right, Patrick.  I just tried your suggestions.
I deleted the key, did a --check-trustdb and then reopened the email concerned.
 A similar (possibly identical) listing appeared just before the closing marker
for the End of encrypted or signed part.

I then removed the "-v" from the preferences and repeated the procedure.  The
unwanted listing was not there.

I restored the "-v" preference, repeated the procedure and the unwanted listing
is back.

So your supposition is correct.  It seems that enabling verbose logging causes
the unwanted listing to appear when a new key is imported and the trustdb
recalculated.  That seems to me to be an unwanted / undesirable bug.

I don't suppose you class it as a feature ?

Philip




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Re: [Enigmail] (small) missing feature: sort tabs in signature tabular view

2015-05-06 Thread Ludwig Hügelschäfer
On 06.05.15 16:35, Ralph Wozelka wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> just one day ago I was dearly missing the feature to sort the list of
> signatures of my public by date (to get the newest ones on top).
> 
> click on the column headers does nothing.

Are you talking about the dialog following the click on "View
signatures"? The listed signatures follow their sequence, as listed by
GnuPG, so the newest should be at the bottom. The column headers are not
active, there's no sorting by any means.

What would have helped you by sorting it by date?

Ludwig



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Re: [Enigmail] strange unrequested display of signatures

2015-05-06 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
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On 03.05.15 13:54, Philip Jackson wrote:
> using enigmail 1.8.2 with Ubuntu 1404 and Thunderbird 31.6.0
> 
> A signed incoming email had displayed below the text a colon
> separated sub-listing ( about 250 lines) of some parts of my public
> keyring.  Some fields are truncated.  In fact every line is
> truncated at max 58 characters.  They are of this form :
> 
> 1:3F0111222EEE4449:K::? 1:3F0111222EEE4449:U:::m:::Xxxx Yyyy
> :
> 
> 
> This unexpected listing is below the text but before the
> "** *END ENCRYPTED or SIGNED PART* **" marker.
> 
> Beyond selecting the email in the Inbox tab listing, I did not
> click on any other button, menu item of enigmail or thunderbird.
> 
> I have seen this effect once before (around a week or 10 days' ago)
> and it disappeared when I focused on another message.  I could not
> get it back by reopening the 'offending' message.
> 
> This time, I've saved the enigmail debug and copied the whole of
> the displayed text - so I do have a record this time.  Once the
> focus goes to another message, this strange listing does not
> reappear.
> 
> Has anyone seen similar episodes ?
> 
> Patrick - let me know if you'd like the files.

I can see in the log that you have enabled "--list-packets" and/or
enabled gpg debugging.

It seems to me that the sender's key was automatically downloaded
while you were viewing / verifying the message and this looks like
some part of the output from re-calculating the trustdb.

If I'm right, then you should be able to reproduce this behavior by
deleting the sender's key, re-calculating the trustdb and then viewing
the message again.

- -Patrick
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[Enigmail] (small) missing feature: sort tabs in signature tabular view

2015-05-06 Thread Ralph Wozelka
hi all,

just one day ago I was dearly missing the feature to sort the list of
signatures of my public by date (to get the newest ones on top).

click on the column headers does nothing.

running v1.8.2.


cheers,
ralph



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Re: [Enigmail] pinentry, keepass2 & Enigmail on Debian Jessie

2015-05-06 Thread Philip Jackson
On 06/05/15 01:42, David wrote:
> I use, paid for, Keepass2 for Windows. I have for years. My comment was
> in reference to the provider of Gnu4Win that has decided that he will be
> my nanny and not let me easily use KeePass2 with his package as I do
> with so many other logins.


Strange, I don't understand the difficulty you had.  I used Windows7 with
Gnupg4win and KeePass2 and if anything, it worked more smoothly on that setup
than on linux.  Autotype worked extremely well and integrated well with the os
and applications.

Since I moved to linux about a year ago, I've had to settle for a less easy
interface between my applications and KeePass2 with autotype being less easily
integrated.  I look forward to moving up to Jessie on my laptop and checking it
out to see if I can share the same happiness that Jerome has found.

(And, as I remember it, KeePass2 on Windows did not need buying unless you mean
you made a voluntary contribution.)

Philip



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