Re: [Enigmail] What about PGP/Header support?

2014-03-15 Thread David Benfell
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On 03/15/2014 10:10 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
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 On 15.03.14 16:41, Egbert van der Wal wrote:
 
 I recently set up my mailserver to use DKIM signing and I think 
 the solution for embedding the DKIM signature is really elegant: 
 adding a DKIM-Signature header. Since mail clients that do not 
 understand this header just ignore it, it is basically invisible
 to people inexperienced with mail and/or DKIM. It is still
 embedded in the message. I then started looking for any
 possibilities to use this and came across someone who wrote about
 this same idea:
 
 http://beza1e1.tuxen.de/articles/pgp_header.html

It is important to be clear about the nature of the problem so as to
address it properly. The problem is part social and part technical.

First, as to the social, I have been signing my emails for many years
now, and I find some people are disturbed when they can't do anything
with the attachment. I explain, sometimes they don't understand, but
the important thing for them is to just ignore the attachment, and
eventually they get that. Life goes on.

Next is the technical. This divides into two problems. First is that
the current methods of signing have been in use for quite a long
period of time. Enigmail is far from the only piece of software
involved. Compatibility is an issue. But I believe this is what the
RFC process is for.

The other issue is the question of what to sign/encrypt. I'm not
seeing this as a problem. Just sign/encrypt the entire body, including
attachments and leave it to the sender, as we already have been doing
for years, to make obvious which bits are from previous messages. This
does seem to me to be 'clean' and 'elegant'. It also seems to me that
it would address another problem previously reported on this list in
which a signed attachment could lead a receiver to believe that the
entire message had been signed.

It's important to remember here what a signature is supposed to mean:
strictly that I sent this. It means nothing more. And it strikes me
that the practice of encrypting pieces of a message and leaving other
pieces unencrypted is dubious, that leaving portions unencrypted might
offer clues as to the encrypted content.

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Re: [Enigmail] Integration with Namecoin identities

2014-02-19 Thread David Benfell


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On 2014-02-19 23:12, Robert J. Hansen wrote:


It's not necessary that it become official.  After all, the HKP
keyserver protocol isn't documented in RFC4880.  It's just necessary
that it become a de-facto standard way of querying for keys.  If/when 
it

becomes a de-facto standard, GnuPG will quickly add support for it as a
keyserver protocol, and Enigmail will follow suit.


I'm not a developer either. That said, when I look at namecoin, I see a 
mess that is a long ways from widespread support. The bitcoin protocol 
(upon which namecoin is based) apparently has problems, which I *don't 
think* impact namecoin, but suggest that bitcoin itself needs to mature 
a bit (which has implications for all of its derivatives).


All that said, I'm a bit confused by this. GnuPG *does* support the HKP 
protocol with the keyserver option.

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Re: [Enigmail] enigmail picks invalid key ID

2013-11-11 Thread David Benfell
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 14:32 -0500, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 
 One way to work around this is to remove the old key from your gpg
 keyring entirely.

There is also a configuration option in gpg.conf to select a default
key. I believe the parameters that should be set are:

default-key ${new-key-id}
encrypt-to ${new-key-id}

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Re: [Enigmail] (no subject)

2013-07-19 Thread David Benfell
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On 07/19/2013 11:10 AM, Anthony Papillion wrote:
 
 In order to use encryption, BOTH sides must be using it or it
 doesn't work.
 
Right. In order to encrypt a message to someone, you must have their
public key and in order for them to decrypt it, they must have the
corresponding private key.

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Please see https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 for GnuPG information (or
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Re: [Enigmail] APPARENTLY SOLVED: Re: signing problem

2013-03-03 Thread David Benfell

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On 03/03/2013 09:39 AM, David Benfell wrote:

 A test email appears to have been signed correctly.

So now the email to the list was signed incorrectly. If this is just a
front-end for gnupg, did someone perhaps take a wrong turn writing this
plugin? Why is it this fussy?
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Re: [Enigmail] APPARENTLY SOLVED: Re: signing problem

2013-03-03 Thread David Benfell
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On 03/03/2013 12:51 PM, Grant Olson wrote:
 
 No, you're right.  Enigmail defaults to inline PGP.  You can use 
 PGP/Mime if you want your signatures sent as MIME attachments.
 
 Inline PGP is just text so it's compatible with all mailers.
 PGP/Mime isn't as ugly for non-pgp enabled browsers, and signs and
 encrypts attachments, which Inline PGP does not.
 
 (Mentioning the pros and cons of each of course means we'll have
 another six hundred email thread about which format is better...)
 
Thanks, Grant. I'll leave it be for now.

But my apologies if I provoke a flame war. I'm new here and that was
definitely not my intention.
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[Enigmail] signing problem

2013-03-02 Thread David Benfell
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Hi all,

I am running thunderbird with enigmail in three instances:

1) Linux Mint Debian Edition (gpg1 backend)
2) Windows 7 (gpg2 backend)
3) Arch (gpg2 backend)

I am using the same key on all three instances. The first two of these
seem to work fine. But when I sign an email on the third, enigmail
complains that it cannot verify the signature.

I'm sure that's not enough information. What more information should I
obtain and how do I obtain it?

Thanks!
- -- 
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See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 for GnuPG (the attachment you
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Re: [Enigmail] signing problem

2013-03-02 Thread David Benfell

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On 03/02/2013 04:43 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
 On 03/02/2013 08:37 AM, David Benfell wrote:
 | To demonstrate the problem, here is a message from the afflicted
 | instance--actually on the same hardware (it is dual-boot).

 Looks like a whitespace problem.

 Are you by any chance mixing and matching thunderbird and enigmail from
 your distro's packages and the mozilla sites? If so, don't do that. :)
 Make sure that you have all of one, or all of the other.

Yup. I didn't know any better. I will clean this up presently.

Thanks!
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Re: [Enigmail] signing problem

2013-03-02 Thread David Benfell

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On 03/02/2013 04:43 PM, Doug Barton wrote:

 Are you by any chance mixing and matching thunderbird and enigmail from
 your distro's packages and the mozilla sites? If so, don't do that. :)
 Make sure that you have all of one, or all of the other.
The situation on Arch is *not* *nice*. enigmail is a community-supported
package.

The most popular Arch User Repository package for enigmail seeks and now
fails to download the source for Thunderbird 16.0.1. Presumably it means
to rebuild it to eliminate any possibility of this problem.

I went with the second most popular package. We'll see if it worked
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Re: [Enigmail] signing problem

2013-03-02 Thread David Benfell

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On 03/02/2013 05:41 PM, David Benfell wrote:

 The situation on Arch is *not* *nice*. enigmail is a community-supported
 package.

 The most popular Arch User Repository package for enigmail seeks and now
 fails to download the source for Thunderbird 16.0.1. Presumably it means
 to rebuild it to eliminate any possibility of this problem.

 I went with the second most popular package. We'll see if it worked
That of course landed me right back where I was. I don't think I'm going
to be able to fix this. Thunderbird downloaded from mozilla's site blows
up with some weird XPCOMGlueLoad error which seems to point to
dependency hell (circular dependencies, shades of very bad old RPM days)
within AUR for xcb packages.

Thanks anyway!
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