Re: [Enigmail] new nightly built with several updates

2014-06-16 Thread Nicolai Josuttis (enigmail)
Am 16.06.2014 09:20, Kosuke Kaizuka schrieb/wrote:
>> I just fixed it and pushed it so that it should be in the next
>> master (in Monday or Tuesday).
> 
> Thanks, I understood.
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/source/ci/7421a268856dac582c38e7e83d0318c9ca08c35c/
> No need to backout the changes for signYes and signNo?
> 
Oh yes, of course.
Changed SignYes and SignNo back.
Pushed into master.
Thanks a lot
 Nico

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Re: [Enigmail] new nightly built with several updates

2014-06-16 Thread Kosuke Kaizuka
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>> 2. What does %S in signYes and signNo in enigmail.properties
>> stand for? Only "Message will be signed" or "Message will not be
>> signed" is shown in compose window OpenPGP menu.
>> 
>> signYes=Message will be signed %S signNo=Message will not be
>> signed %S
>> 
> Oops, I just saw that this is an old label I changed, which I
> should not do. I should have introduced a new label instead. The
> new label will probably be: signYesWithOptionalDetails 
> signNoWithOptionalDetails and the meaning of the %S is to
> optionally place some details about why the message is (not)
> signed. The only supported detail for that is so far: 
> signDueToEncryptionMode=(due to encryption mode) So that a
> resulting message might be: Message will be signed (due to
> encryption mode) There might be more details come sooner or later 
> (to better explain resulting signing/encryption).
> 
> I just fixed it and mushed it so that it should be in the next
> master (ion Monday or Tuesday).

Thanks, I understood.

https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/source/ci/7421a268856dac582c38e7e83d0318c9ca08c35c/
No need to backout the changes for signYes and signNo?

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Hi Nicolai,

On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 23:02:49 +0200, Nicolai Josuttis (enigmail) wrote:
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Re: [Enigmail] new nightly built with several updates

2014-06-15 Thread Nicolai Josuttis (enigmail)
Hi Kosuke Kaizuka,
thanks for the quick feedback.

Am 15.06.2014 18:40, Kosuke Kaizuka schrieb/wrote:
> Hi Nicolai,
> 
> 
> Hi Nicolai,
> 
> I have tried Enigmail nightly 2014-06-15 with Thunderbird 31.0b1 on
> Win7, and new features seem to work fine.
> 
> During preparation of ja-JP localization on my local, I got several
> questions about locale files.
> 
> 1. enigmail.defaultSignPlainMsg.label is duplicated in enigmail.dtd
> line 220 and 228. Also, this entity seems not to be used at all.
> 
I didn't check which labels are no longer needed yet.

> 
> 2. What does %S in signYes and signNo in enigmail.properties stand
> for? Only "Message will be signed" or "Message will not be signed" is
> shown in compose window OpenPGP menu.
> 
> signYes=Message will be signed %S
> signNo=Message will not be signed %S
> 
Oops, I just saw that this is an old label I changed,
which I should not do.
I should have introduced a new label instead.
The new label will probably be:
 signYesWithOptionalDetails
 signNoWithOptionalDetails
and the meaning of the %S is to optionally place some details
about why the message is (not) signed.
The only supported detail for that is so far:
 signDueToEncryptionMode=(due to encryption mode)
So that a resulting message might be:
 Message will be signed (due to encryption mode)
There might be more details come sooner or later
(to better explain resulting signing/encryption).

I just fixed it and mushed it so that it should be in the
next master (ion Monday or Tuesday).

Best
 Nico

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Re: [Enigmail] new nightly built with several updates

2014-06-15 Thread Kosuke Kaizuka
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Hi Nicolai,

I have tried Enigmail nightly 2014-06-15 with Thunderbird 31.0b1 on
Win7, and new features seem to work fine.

During preparation of ja-JP localization on my local, I got several
questions about locale files.

1. enigmail.defaultSignPlainMsg.label is duplicated in enigmail.dtd
line 220 and 228. Also, this entity seems not to be used at all.


2. What does %S in signYes and signNo in enigmail.properties stand
for? Only "Message will be signed" or "Message will not be signed" is
shown in compose window OpenPGP menu.

signYes=Message will be signed %S
signNo=Message will not be signed %S

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Re: [Enigmail] new nightly built with several updates

2014-06-15 Thread Nicolai Josuttis (enigmail)
Thanks Philip,

That's exactly the kind of feedback I wanted to have
to fix final flaws.

Please allow me to look at details later (currently traveling)
and may be I ask for details then personally.

Best
 Nico

Am 15.06.2014 14:06, Philip Jackson schrieb/wrote:
> Hi Nico,
> 
> Looks good at first glance.  Time will tell how it performs.
> 
> 
> On 15/06/14 09:49, Nicolai Josuttis (enigmail) wrote:
> 
>> - In the account specific menu you can now select the
>>   general defaults for signing/encryption/pgpmime
>>   - The decision to automatically sign when the
>> email is (not) encrypted now is processed FINALLY
>> after applying all defaults/rules/manual-settings
>> It therefore has new labels.
> 
> I find this explanation a little difficult to understand but what I take from
> what you have written is the following :
> 
> In the account specific settings of Thunderbird, in the OpenPGP Options, if I
> select (tick) the check box 'Automatically sign finally non-encrypted 
> messages'
> this action will be applied as an final (ultimate) action after all other
> defaults/rules/manual settings have been applied.
> 
> So if all other actions work to declare that a particular email should not be
> signed, then this option will ensure that it is signed anyway.
> 
> But an initial test proves that it doesn't work that way.  If in the write
> window, I select OpenPGP/Message will be signed/Force not to sign :  then the
> message is sent unsigned.
> 
> So it seems that I have misunderstood your quoted text above.  Perhaps it is 
> the
> use of the word 'finally' that is ambiguous ?
> 
> Perhaps we could suggest something more clear if you say what message you
> intended to convey.
> 
> Best regards,
> Philip
> 
> ps.  for this message, it should be signed by default.  My initial attempt at
> clicking the send button produced an error "Bad pass phrase" "send failed".
> 
> I wasn't even invited to enter a passphrase.  So I have disabled signing to 
> get
> this message away.  I don't yet understand if this is an effect of the latest
> nightly build.
> 
> 
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Re: [Enigmail] new nightly built with several updates

2014-06-15 Thread Philip Jackson
Hi Nico,

Looks good at first glance.  Time will tell how it performs.


On 15/06/14 09:49, Nicolai Josuttis (enigmail) wrote:

> - In the account specific menu you can now select the
>   general defaults for signing/encryption/pgpmime
>   - The decision to automatically sign when the
> email is (not) encrypted now is processed FINALLY
> after applying all defaults/rules/manual-settings
> It therefore has new labels.

I find this explanation a little difficult to understand but what I take from
what you have written is the following :

In the account specific settings of Thunderbird, in the OpenPGP Options, if I
select (tick) the check box 'Automatically sign finally non-encrypted messages'
this action will be applied as an final (ultimate) action after all other
defaults/rules/manual settings have been applied.

So if all other actions work to declare that a particular email should not be
signed, then this option will ensure that it is signed anyway.

But an initial test proves that it doesn't work that way.  If in the write
window, I select OpenPGP/Message will be signed/Force not to sign :  then the
message is sent unsigned.

So it seems that I have misunderstood your quoted text above.  Perhaps it is the
use of the word 'finally' that is ambiguous ?

Perhaps we could suggest something more clear if you say what message you
intended to convey.

Best regards,
Philip

ps.  for this message, it should be signed by default.  My initial attempt at
clicking the send button produced an error "Bad pass phrase" "send failed".

I wasn't even invited to enter a passphrase.  So I have disabled signing to get
this message away.  I don't yet understand if this is an effect of the latest
nightly build.


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[Enigmail] new nightly built with several updates

2014-06-15 Thread Nicolai Josuttis (enigmail)
Hi all,

last night a new nightly build version of enigmail was built,
which contains several changes and fixes.

You can find it at:
 https://www.enigmail.net/download/nightly.php

To try it out:
- DOWNLOAD the file enigmail-nightly-all.xpi
   https://www.enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-all.xpi
  INTO A LOCAL FILE
  (don't load it directly into your firefox browser)
- In Thunderbird choose
   Extras -> Add-Ons-Manager
  select the configure icon on the top right
   -> install Add-On from file
  and select the stored file
- press install now
- restart thunderbird

The changes are:

- New handling of default/rules/final-decisions
  for encryption/signing/pgp-mime
  - new account-defaults
  - new key selection properties
  - new compose menu entries (both pulldown and popup menues)
  - new status bar button icon look&feel
  See a summary of the new behavior below

- We have a workaround now to try to handle
  PGP/Mime emails screwed up by a Exchange Server <=2010.
  see https://sourceforge.net/p/enigmail/forum/support/thread/4add2b69/

To summarize how encryption/signing/pgpmime is handled now:
- In the account specific menu you can now select the
  general defaults for signing/encryption/pgpmime
  - The decision to automatically sign when the
email is (not) encrypted now is processed FINALLY
after applying all defaults/rules/manual-settings
It therefore has new labels.
  - Note: If no automatic signing is selected,
signing is not bundled to encryption
  - You now have a button there to jump to the global settings
- In the preferences -> key selection
  you can now simply turn on or off the possible steps
  of the key handling individually.
  This replaces a radio boy where you could only choose
  one of a couple of options, where the consequence were not
  always clear.
  The recommended default settings are:
  - use recipient-rules
  - use keys from key manager
  - start manual key selection if keys are missing
- With the status bar icons you can now FINALLY choose to
  sign/encrypt or not to sign/encrypt
  (which means after hitting these buttons,
   rules/defaults no longer count to decide whether to sign/encrypt,
   even if additional recipients are added while composing)
- With the compose menu entries you can do the same PLUS
  - see the current status of the email
  - switch back to process defaults and rules

I am happy about any feedback.

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