Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird auto-encryption issues
I was not aware of that before, indeed. I was confused, because either I missed it or there is no way to guess Autocrypt is the cause of this "inconsistency". I respect that there is a standard for that, and it is useful and nice that Enigmail supports it. Would it be possible to show this rules in the per-recipient rules list maybe? Maybe only read-only as not to interfere with it, but it would materialize the cause of the behavior. Thanks anyway for your insights, everybody! Rémi Le 11/05/2019 à 19:00, Patrick Brunschwig a écrit : > Autocrypt is a standard that allows to send your public key with every > message, along with a preference for how to deal with encryption. I.e. > the sender chooses how he/she prefers to get emails. In that particular > case the sender has specified to prefer unencrypted emails. > > If you want to overwrite the sender's preference, you'll need to create > a per-recipient rule for that email address. > > -Patrick > > > On 11.05.2019 18:55, Rémi Saurel wrote: >> Thanks Olav, Sebastian, >> >> You two gave me a hint on the problem. >> >> First, I did not realise that the debug log did not update itself in >> live: I had to close the window and reopen it to get something meaningful. >> >> Then, parsing the relevant log, it seems that there is a per-recipient >> rule: an autocrypt:// one. This particular recipient must have enabled it. >> I went exploring the per-recipient rules before, but it was (and still >> is) empty. Thus i was clueless… >> >> I am not familiar with Autocrypt at all, I've read that it only starts >> encrypting after some sort of agreement/handshake between the 2 parties. >> I do not know how to complete the process with Enigmail :) >> >> One solution that would fit me well would be to know where these >> autocrypt:// rules are stored, and delete them. The party I try to >> communicate with is a pal of mine, and will be plenty satisfied by >> receiving encrypted/signed mail, and I do not like HIS settings >> impacting on mine. >> But perhaps I don't grasp the benefit of this Autocrypt thing? >> >> Thanks again, >> >> Rémi >> >> >> Le 11/05/2019 à 18:12, Sebastian a écrit : >>> On 2019-05-11 17:05, Rémi Saurel wrote: But there is this one address, which as soon as I add it to the recipient list, causes the following to happen: * Disabling auo signing of the my message * Do not enable encryption despite the corresponding public key being present in my keychain. >>> Did you check the per recipient rules? >>> >> >> Le 11/05/2019 à 18:15, Olav Seyfarth a écrit : >>> Hi Rémi, >>> >>> you may want to provide a debug log - otherwise we can't see anything. :-) >>> >>> Make sure to close TB, restart it, compose the message in question, >>> enter the problematic address, check status is wrong, then save debug. >>> >>> Since that file does contain sensitive info, make sure to redact it first, >>> or send it to Patrick and me only. >>> >>> Olav >>> >> >> ___ >> enigmail-users mailing list >> enigmail-users@enigmail.net >> To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: >> https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net >> > > > ___ > enigmail-users mailing list > enigmail-users@enigmail.net > To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: > https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird auto-encryption issues
Autocrypt is a standard that allows to send your public key with every message, along with a preference for how to deal with encryption. I.e. the sender chooses how he/she prefers to get emails. In that particular case the sender has specified to prefer unencrypted emails. If you want to overwrite the sender's preference, you'll need to create a per-recipient rule for that email address. -Patrick On 11.05.2019 18:55, Rémi Saurel wrote: > Thanks Olav, Sebastian, > > You two gave me a hint on the problem. > > First, I did not realise that the debug log did not update itself in > live: I had to close the window and reopen it to get something meaningful. > > Then, parsing the relevant log, it seems that there is a per-recipient > rule: an autocrypt:// one. This particular recipient must have enabled it. > I went exploring the per-recipient rules before, but it was (and still > is) empty. Thus i was clueless… > > I am not familiar with Autocrypt at all, I've read that it only starts > encrypting after some sort of agreement/handshake between the 2 parties. > I do not know how to complete the process with Enigmail :) > > One solution that would fit me well would be to know where these > autocrypt:// rules are stored, and delete them. The party I try to > communicate with is a pal of mine, and will be plenty satisfied by > receiving encrypted/signed mail, and I do not like HIS settings > impacting on mine. > But perhaps I don't grasp the benefit of this Autocrypt thing? > > Thanks again, > > Rémi > > > Le 11/05/2019 à 18:12, Sebastian a écrit : >> On 2019-05-11 17:05, Rémi Saurel wrote: >>> But there is this one address, which as soon as I add it to the >>> recipient list, causes the following to happen: >>> * Disabling auo signing of the my message >>> * Do not enable encryption despite the corresponding public key being >>> present in my keychain. >> Did you check the per recipient rules? >> > > > Le 11/05/2019 à 18:15, Olav Seyfarth a écrit : >> >> Hi Rémi, >> >> you may want to provide a debug log - otherwise we can't see anything. :-) >> >> Make sure to close TB, restart it, compose the message in question, >> enter the problematic address, check status is wrong, then save debug. >> >> Since that file does contain sensitive info, make sure to redact it first, >> or send it to Patrick and me only. >> >> Olav >> > > > ___ > enigmail-users mailing list > enigmail-users@enigmail.net > To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: > https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird auto-encryption issues
Thanks Olav, Sebastian, You two gave me a hint on the problem. First, I did not realise that the debug log did not update itself in live: I had to close the window and reopen it to get something meaningful. Then, parsing the relevant log, it seems that there is a per-recipient rule: an autocrypt:// one. This particular recipient must have enabled it. I went exploring the per-recipient rules before, but it was (and still is) empty. Thus i was clueless… I am not familiar with Autocrypt at all, I've read that it only starts encrypting after some sort of agreement/handshake between the 2 parties. I do not know how to complete the process with Enigmail :) One solution that would fit me well would be to know where these autocrypt:// rules are stored, and delete them. The party I try to communicate with is a pal of mine, and will be plenty satisfied by receiving encrypted/signed mail, and I do not like HIS settings impacting on mine. But perhaps I don't grasp the benefit of this Autocrypt thing? Thanks again, Rémi Le 11/05/2019 à 18:12, Sebastian a écrit : > On 2019-05-11 17:05, Rémi Saurel wrote: >> But there is this one address, which as soon as I add it to the >> recipient list, causes the following to happen: >> * Disabling auo signing of the my message >> * Do not enable encryption despite the corresponding public key being >> present in my keychain. > Did you check the per recipient rules? > Le 11/05/2019 à 18:15, Olav Seyfarth a écrit : > > Hi Rémi, > > you may want to provide a debug log - otherwise we can't see anything. :-) > > Make sure to close TB, restart it, compose the message in question, > enter the problematic address, check status is wrong, then save debug. > > Since that file does contain sensitive info, make sure to redact it first, > or send it to Patrick and me only. > > Olav > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird auto-encryption issues
On 2019-05-11 17:05, Rémi Saurel wrote: > But there is this one address, which as soon as I add it to the > recipient list, causes the following to happen: > * Disabling auo signing of the my message > * Do not enable encryption despite the corresponding public key being > present in my keychain. Did you check the per recipient rules? -- python programming - mail server - photo - video - https://sebix.at cryptographic key at https://sebix.at/DC9B463B.asc and on public keyservers signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
