Re: [Enigmail] expired keys

2014-02-02 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
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On 02.02.14 14:57, Philip Jackson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for the replies from Patrick, Sebastian and Nicolai.  (I
> don't really understand the comment about standard for showing /
> hiding columns in Thunderbird but that doesn't really matter.)  I
> do know how to change the display in Key Manager now and clearly,
> other people do not find the problem I have.
> 
> I know about resizing column widths using the mouse to move the
> borders.  I also know about the horizontal slider which appears at
> the same time as the 'Name' column shoots out of sight on the
> left-hand side - unfortunately the slider only lets me move further
> to the right.
> 
> I'll attach a couple of screenshots to illustrate my problem.
> 
> KeyManager1.png : shows the key manager window with 4 columns :
> Name, KeyID, Type, Key Validity.  I have adjusted the column widths
> nicely and there is plenty of room to the right of 'Key Validity'
> for the next column to be added. There is no horizontal scroll bar.
> All seems well.
> 
> KeyManager2.png : shows what happens immediately after asking for
> 'Owner trust' to be displayed.  'Name' has disappeared far left.
> The horizontal scroll bar has appeared and can only move the
> display to the right (because the new column, Owner trust, has been
> drawn far too wide).  I haven't done anything else than ask for
> Owner trust to be displayed.

I really don't see your problem -- except that your default column
widths seem to be corrupt. Just start with the "key validity" column
and make it smaller, then do the same with the "owner trust" column.

> This same problems happens if I select any one of Owner trust or
> Expiry or Fingerprint.   Each of those, alone, is drawn with a
> column width so large that 'name' disappears to the left and cannot
> be brought back in.  The horizontal scroll bar can be moved to the
> right but eventually all I am left with is a clear window.  There
> doesn't appear to be a way of dragging the right edge of the very
> wide column towards the left to reduce its width.

There is ... you have to drag the column border on the _left_ side of
the rightmost column to make it smaller (not my decision --
Thunderbird standard functionality...)

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Re: [Enigmail] expired keys

2014-02-02 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
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On 01.02.14 22:02, Philip Jackson wrote:
> Hi Enigmail,
> 
> I always thought that the Enigmail key manager only displayed 2
> columns (Name, Key ID) but Ludwig's reply caused me to look again.
> 
> It took me 5 minutes to find the tiny icon which permits you to
> select another 5 columns.  This is very well disguised.  The first
> place I looked was in the

That's the default for showing or hiding columns in Thunderbird,
working identically as e.g. in the list of mails.

> key manager 'view' menu item but there is no way to find the extra
> columns in any of the File, Edit, View, Keyserver or Generate text
> items on this bar.
> 
> Strangely enough as well, I cannot display all seven columns at
> once. Selecting the fingerprint column, kills the name column.  The
> screen is wide enough.

You can change the column width by moving the column borders with the
mouse.

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Re: [Enigmail] expired keys

2014-02-01 Thread David
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On 2/1/2014 3:38 PM, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 01.02.14 20:36, David wrote:
>> Windows 7 Pro with Thunderbird 24.2.0.
> 
>> I try to keep pubring.gpg free of expired keys. Is there a way in
>>  Enigmail to remove expired keys as a group without having to
>> scan the entire pubring.gpg and mark them individually?
> 
> Yes. Please open the Enigmail key manager: Menu OpenPGP -> Key 
> Management. Check the "Display all keys by default" checkbox. Make 
> sure the column "key validity" is visible. Sort by validity by 
> selecting the "key validity" column. Scroll down until the revoked 
> keys are visible. Select the first key line marked "revoked".
> Scroll down until you see the last revoked key. Mark with Shift
> click. Now all revoked keys in your keyring should be selected.
> Right click -> Delete key.
> 
> Attention: NEVER EVER delete your own secret revoked key(s) if you 
> still have stuff encrypted to this key you need!
> 
> HTH
> 
> Ludwig


Thank you. That does indeed make this process much more easy.

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Re: [Enigmail] expired keys

2014-02-01 Thread Philip Jackson
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Hi Enigmail,

I always thought that the Enigmail key manager only displayed 2 columns (Name,
Key ID) but Ludwig's reply caused me to look again.

It took me 5 minutes to find the tiny icon which permits you to select another
5 columns.  This is very well disguised.  The first place I looked was in the
key manager 'view' menu item but there is no way to find the extra columns in
any of the File, Edit, View, Keyserver or Generate text items on this bar.

Strangely enough as well, I cannot display all seven columns at once.
Selecting the fingerprint column, kills the name column.  The screen is wide
enough.

Philip

On 01/02/2014 21:38, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 01.02.14 20:36, David wrote:
>> Windows 7 Pro with Thunderbird 24.2.0.
> 
>> I try to keep pubring.gpg free of expired keys. Is there a way in 
>> Enigmail to remove expired keys as a group without having to scan the
>> entire pubring.gpg and mark them individually?
> 
> Yes. Please open the Enigmail key manager: Menu OpenPGP -> Key Management.
> Check the "Display all keys by default" checkbox. Make sure the column "key
> validity" is visible. Sort by validity by selecting the "key validity"
> column. Scroll down until the revoked keys are visible. Select the first
> key line marked "revoked". Scroll down until you see the last revoked key.
> Mark with Shift click. Now all revoked keys in your keyring should be
> selected. Right click -> Delete key.
> 
> Attention: NEVER EVER delete your own secret revoked key(s) if you still
> have stuff encrypted to this key you need!
> 
> HTH
> 
> Ludwig
> 
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Re: [Enigmail] expired keys

2014-02-01 Thread Ludwig Hügelschäfer
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Hi,

On 01.02.14 20:36, David wrote:
> Windows 7 Pro with Thunderbird 24.2.0.
> 
> I try to keep pubring.gpg free of expired keys. Is there a way in 
> Enigmail to remove expired keys as a group without having to scan
> the entire pubring.gpg and mark them individually?

Yes. Please open the Enigmail key manager: Menu OpenPGP -> Key
Management. Check the "Display all keys by default" checkbox. Make
sure the column "key validity" is visible. Sort by validity by
selecting the "key validity" column. Scroll down until the revoked
keys are visible. Select the first key line marked "revoked". Scroll
down until you see the last revoked key. Mark with Shift click. Now
all revoked keys in your keyring should be selected. Right click ->
Delete key.

Attention: NEVER EVER delete your own secret revoked key(s) if you
still have stuff encrypted to this key you need!

HTH

Ludwig
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