Re: [E-devel] e16.6 configure script

2003-07-14 Thread Michael Jennings
On Monday, 14 July 2003, at 21:12:39 (+0200),
Morten Nilsen wrote:

 1) ./configure
 /usr/local/bin, complains that dox is not in /usr/local/enlightenment/bin

I can't reproduce that here.  Most likely a problem on your end.

Michael

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Re: [E-devel] e16.6 configure script

2003-07-14 Thread Kim Woelders
Morten Nilsen wrote:
I tried using /usr/local/enlightenment, but that wouldn't work without
--with-fsstd either...
1) ./configure
/usr/local/bin, complains that dox is not in /usr/local/enlightenment/bin
2) ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/enlightenment
/usr/local/enlightenment/enlightenment/bin
3) ./configure --with-fsstd --prefix=/usr/local/enlightenment
/usr/local/enlightenment/bin
4) ./configure --with-fsstd --prefix=/usr/local
/usr/local/bin looks for dox in the right folder.
my conclusion; Everyone wants to use --with-fsstd.

It's not as simple as that.
I accidentally broke the non-fsstd way some time ago.
Now it's a question of either fixing it as it was or doing things as 
they are done in practically all other packages.

/Kim



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Re: [E-devel] e16.6 configure script

2003-07-14 Thread Michael Jennings
On Monday, 14 July 2003, at 21:50:46 (+0200),
Morten Nilsen wrote:

 quite possible, that..
 
 but still, is there really any reason not to allways have --with-fsstd?

Yes.

 As I see it, the people who want enlightenment into a separate
 folder, still can do that with --prefix...

No, they can't.  FSSTD uses things like prefix/bin, whereas the
default way uses things like prefix/enlightenment/bin.

Michael

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Re: [E-devel] e16.6 configure script

2003-07-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:00:52 EDT, Michael Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]  said:
 On Monday, 14 July 2003, at 21:50:46 (+0200),

  As I see it, the people who want enlightenment into a separate
  folder, still can do that with --prefix...
 
 No, they can't.  FSSTD uses things like prefix/bin, whereas the
 default way uses things like prefix/enlightenment/bin.

what's wrong with ./configure --prefix=/usr/whatever/enlightenment
and letting it tack the /bin on that?


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Re: [E-devel] e16.6 configure script

2003-07-14 Thread Jalle
At 21:50 2003-07-14 +0200, Morten Nilsen wrote:
Michael Jennings wrote:
 On Monday, 14 July 2003, at 21:12:39 (+0200),
 Morten Nilsen wrote:

 1) ./configure
 /usr/local/bin, complains that dox is not in /usr/local/enlightenment/bin

 I can't reproduce that here.  Most likely a problem on your end.

quite possible, that..

but still, is there really any reason not to allways have --with-fsstd?

As I see it, the people who want enlightenment into a separate folder,
still can do that with --prefix...
I think most ppl would be just as happy (or even totally unaware) if 
--with-fsstd was removed and the only option in this matter would be 
--prefix, since these options do _almost_ the same thing. However, I still 
don't think it SHOULD be removed!
Many of us use UNIX/Linux because we are sick and tired of being bullied 
around in an MS environment, where we are forced to do things the MS way, 
and  where the defaults are set and options do not exist. --with-fsstd 
and/or --prefix are options, meaning you don't have to use them if you 
don't want to. But for me and many others, these options are one of the 
main reasons for using this system, so let's keep it that way: Flexible and 
optional!

Hmm... I didn't mean for this to get so philosophical, but I think you get 
the point, neither of these options are harmful, they just keep the system 
flexible!

/J

PS: BTW, did this issue come up because someone thought it to be hard to 
maintain two different options, or just because there was nothing else to 
discuss? If so, read the old article about the color of the shed from one 
of the FreeBSD lists. It applies anywhere, anytime!
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#BIKESHED-PAINTING


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Re: [E-devel] e16.6 configure script

2003-07-14 Thread vallimar
Michael Jennings said:
 On Monday, 14 July 2003, at 16:10:39 (-0400),
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 what's wrong with ./configure --prefix=/usr/whatever/enlightenment
behaviortting it tack the /bin on that?

 if test x$enable_fsstd = xyes; then
 ENLIGHTENMENT_ROOT=${datadir}/enlightenment
 ENLIGHTENMENT_BIN=${bindir}
 LOCALEDIR=${prefix}/${DATADIRNAME}/locale
 USE_FSSTD=yes
 else
 ENLIGHTENMENT_ROOT=${prefix}/enlightenment
 ENLIGHTENMENT_BIN=${prefix}/enlightenment/bin
 LOCALEDIR=${prefix}/enlightenment/locale
 USE_FSSTD=no
 fi

Wouldn't  configure --prefix=/opt/enlightenment --datadir=/opt prove
the same layout as the non-fsstd code?  Perhaps it would be simplest
to strip the non-fsstd code out and make a note on how to get the old
behaviour back if they really want it.

Or just fix the non-fsstd build, although that's just one more thing
that needs to be maintained then.

Why not hold a vote and go with the majority.


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Re: [E-devel] e16.6 configure script

2003-07-14 Thread Michael Jennings
On Monday, 14 July 2003, at 18:57:37 (-0400),
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 Why not hold a vote and go with the majority.

This isn't a democracy.  At best, it's a benevolent dictatorship. :)

raster has made it very clear in the past how he wants the default to
work.  So this argument is pointless.

Michael

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Re: [E-devel] e16.6 configure script

2003-07-14 Thread The Rasterman
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