Re: [E-devel] Patch for engage on x86_64

2005-05-31 Thread Andrew Elcock
seems to me that this is not a patch against a clean CVS co - I cannot
see what is new / changed / old


Didier Casse wrote:
 Dear developers,
  Please take a look at the patches and commit
 if possible, Thanks.
 
 cheers,
 Didier
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: John Ellson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: May 30, 2005 10:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Request for review: Enlightenment DR17 + EFL
 To: Didier Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED], Discussion related to Fedora
 Extras [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Didier Casse wrote:
 
 
Hi all,
I would like to have a review on the  Enlightenment DR17 package
+ the accompanying Enlightenment Foundation Library packages (EFL).


 
 Engage fails to rpmbuild on x86_64
 
 Ok the spec patch if for me to apply. Please look at the second one. ;-)
 
 Architure dependency in engage.spec:
 
 --- engage.spec.old 2005-05-29 05:32:34.0 -0400
 +++ engage.spec 2005-05-30 10:35:01.0 -0400
 @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@
  %defattr(-,root,root)
  %{_bindir}/engage
  %{_libdir}/engage*
 -%{_libdir}/enlightenment/modules_extra/engage/linux-gnu-i686/*
 +%{_libdir}/enlightenment/modules_extra/engage/
  %{_datadir}/engage*
  %doc AUTHORS ChangeLog COPYING README
 
 
 
 Improper setting of $libdir in configure.in:
 
 --- engage-0.0.9/configure.in.old   2005-05-30 10:19:31.0 -0400
 +++ engage-0.0.9/configure.in   2005-05-30 10:20:57.0 -0400
 @@ -39,6 +39,7 @@
fi
  fi
 
 +if test x{libdir} = xNONE; then
  if test x${exec_prefix} = xNONE; then
if test x${prefix} = xNONE; then
  libdir=${ac_default_prefix}/lib;
 @@ -52,6 +53,7 @@
  libdir=${prefix}/lib;
fi
  fi
 +fi
 
  dnl Set PACKAGE_DATA_DIR in config.h.
  if test x${datadir} = 'x${prefix}/share'; then
 
 
 
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Re: [E-devel] Patches for entrance on x86_64

2005-05-31 Thread Didier Casse
On 5/31/05, John Ellson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Corey Donohoe wrote:
 
 I guess I sorta see why this was working for me, I'm on gentoo not fedora.
 
 nemesis% ls -l /usr/X11R6/ | grep lib
 lrwxrwxrwx1 rootroot5 Mar 29 14:49 lib - lib64
 drwxr-xr-x7 rootroot 4096 May  7 02:44 lib32
 drwxr-xr-x   83 rootroot49152 May 30 13:22 lib64
 drwxr-xr-x6 rootroot 4096 May 14 09:30 libexec
 
 Didier's patches for the daemon/Makefile.am work for you too John ?
 
 
 Sorry for the confusion - the patches came from me originally.
 

Yeah the patches are John Ellson's patches. ;-) I'm sorry if i didn't
make that clear.


-- 
-- 
With kind regards,
Didier.


Yum/apt repository for DR17/EFL: http://sps.nus.edu.sg/~didierbe

Didier F.B Casse
PhD candidate, Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS)
National University of Singapore.


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Re: [E-devel] Ewl_embed mysterious black border

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 27 May 2005 16:35:16 +0100 Simon Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 I would love to do that, but unfortunately on the platform I'm using
 (200MHz ARM-based EP9312) Evas is too slow to run full-screen.
 
 With a 640x480 screen there is a noticeable swipe on each full-screen
 update.  With a 1280x1024 screen it is even worse.  Our app involves
 frequent full-screen updates, so that's kind of fatal.  I
 prerender/dither all images to 16bpp and do a hardware flip to put them
 on-screen.

hmm i see. interesting as i have really not observed these before - then again
the 200mhz arm box i have done evas stuff on is 320x240 so there is much less
screen to update :) i guess one problem is that it can only update at best at
bus write bandwidth. that is made worse by the fact it saves memory copies by
doing a convert from 32bpp to screen depth (likely 16bpp) while copying the
updates to the screen - it saves bandwidth and is an actual speedup, but it
exposes this step to you if it happens to be slow enough to notice such an
update.. in order to do such hardware flips i'd have to introduce full double
buffering concepts in evas (as evas inherently is single-buffered in that it
only maintains current and previous states. double buffering would mean we
maintain cur, prev and prev2). i'd need to add to the engines an api for the
engine to tell evas how many states to keep i guess. :)

 However, Evas is more than capable of animating smaller UI elements and
 I think it's immensely suitable for that job.

well it likely can do the whole job :) but just its fb output interface is a 
bit simple. i've never focused on it a lot. i always kind of thought if your
system is that limted that you can WATCH an update even with evas's code (which
is quite optimised in sheer ability to get pixels rendered to the screen of that
level of complexity) then maybe the hw needs some acceleration help :)

 I'm currently relying on the fact that when Evas repaints, it only ever
 touches tiles with Evas_Objects in (apart from blanking the whole screen
 when it is initially created).  Is that a reasonable assumption?  When

definitely not. for example the opengl engine actually does a bounding box
re-render... as gl SUCKS at handling updating lots of smaller update rects. gl
can invariably re-render a single rect or the whole screen faster than it can
render 5x 20x20 rects - as opposed to a single 1600x1200 rect region :) it's
definitely not something i'd rely on :) as i was saying above. i think the
solution would be to add infrastructure to handle another stored state, engines
saying how many states to use, virtualize the state pipeline/copy system (even
remove copy by just using a state ref table per object and just change the table
pointers to point to cur, prev and prev2, prev3 etc. states), then have the
engine render offscreen as it does currently and on a flush, do a hw flip. in
fact dont even wait to flip.. fork off a child that waits till vblank to flip
(unless the hw can flip screens without having to wait till vblank to do it -
and the flip only takes effect next screen scan). also make the same changes i
made to the x11 engine - to sync all rgba buf - screen copies/updates to happen
at the same time so u dont see each region updating.. then again with double
buffering it wouldn't matter :) we need to work in single buffering as not
everything CAN double buffer... nor do u always want it :) but this is the
"correct solution" i would say - it would 1. give you a high quality RGBA output
engine so you don't ever have to care again what the output is - just feed it
32bit ARGB data and that's the last you care :) you know that whatever the
target display, it will do its best to get it there looking decent.

anyway - we could work together on this. IF you are willing to do this (it's up
to you). to save me a bit of researching - i could do with: 1. detect if fb
can/has double buffering ability code. 2. code to actually do the flip. 3. code
to know if the flip happens instantly or is deferred till the next frame update.
4. code to do a BLOCKING flip (or be able to query until vblank time to do flip
then), 5. code to know just where the backbuffer lives in video ram (and make
sure its mapped in as well as the front buffer). the rest is as described above.


 my app takes over, I hide all Evas objects before accessing the
 framebuffer directly.  Then when I show the Evas objects again, I expect
 to still see my own stuff around the outside.
 
 I'm happy to tweak the dialogs to 8-pixel boundaries!

beware - that isn't a guaranteed. it used to be 16x16 pixel tiles. i found 8x8
just as easy on the cpu but a bit more accurate in limiting overdraw :) but ii
guess this is the fastest solution... BUT its not 

Re: [E-devel] Always click to focus + double click to raise.

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 30 May 2005 23:55:36 +0500 Boldin Pavel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Hi all!
 
 Raise by double click does not work with "Always click to focus" 
 switched on.
 It is seems to don't work by reason of ecore_x_event_grab.

there was never a raise by double click as such - any click would have raised. 
but i did notice problems with click to focus... and i do think i fixed them-
then again i can't remember now - i dont use click to focus and thus dont pay
much attention to it. is everything up to date? that includes ecore, edje, evas
etc.?

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Re: [E-devel] Memory module - new version

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 25 May 2005 02:24:57 +0200 Val__ry Febvre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Hello,
 
 Here is a new version of the memory/swap monitor module.
 
 About this version:
 * /proc/meminfo parsing function was rewritten to support all formats 
 (kernel versions before and after 2.5.?)
 * a new theme which is well-matched with the e17 default theme. Thx to
 Robert Rothermel.

i HATE to say this... good work on doing a module... but you need help with the
gfx department :) don't take offense - please... but... it needs work on the gfx
side :(

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Re: [E-devel] EDJE ERROR: programs recursing up to recursion limit of 64. Disable SAVE!!!!

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 27 May 2005 00:12:55 +0200 "Eduard Feicho" [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 It seems as if Edje_load or something similar put one List too much
 into the Edje. That of course might be becaue of some portability issue
 concerning my NetBSD. I will try to find out what it is, but help is
 appreciated. It would be nice if you could give comments like
 where I can find the place where the init.edj is loaded, so that
 I can take a look why after is not NULL. I will search for it in the
 meantime. Or maybe you have a different opinion on what the reason
 for this behaviour could be.

cvs update edje in about 12hrs from now. it SHOULd be fixed.


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Re: [E-devel] EWL: Segfault in ecore_config_system_init: SOLVED

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 24 May 2005 11:22:28 +0100 Simon Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Simon Poole wrote:
  open("/usr/lib", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 3
  fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=696, ...}) = 0
  fcntl64(3, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0
  pivot_root(umovestr: Input/output error
  0x3, "") = 936
  pivot_root(umovestr: Input/output error
  0x3, "\u\u7")  = 0
  close(3)= 0
 
 I've found why the segfault is happening.  I had failed to copy the 
 ecore_config_ipc_ecore.so library onto my target hardware.
 
 It looks like any kind of failure in _ecore_config_ipc_init would cause 
 the same segfault.  Being completely unfamiliar with the ipc stuff, I've 
 no idea whether this is a problem or not.
 
 In case anyone is interested, the missing library made 
 _ecore_config_ipc_init("_system") return NULL, which caused 
 _ecore_config_system_init_no_load() to return ECORE_CONFIG_ERR_FAIL half 
 way through (before calling ecore_config_bundle_new()).
 
 So __ecore_config_bundle_local never gets initialised, resulting in a 
 segfault in _ecore_config_system_load:
   snprintf(buf, PATH_MAX, "%s/.e/config.eet", p);
   if (ecore_config_file_load(buf) != 0) {
  /* even if this file (system.eet) dosen't exist we can
   * continue without it as it isn't striclty necessary.
  */
  ecore_config_file_load(PACKAGE_DATA_DIR "/system.eet");
   }
   sys = __ecore_config_bundle_local-data;
   ^
   |
  here

aah - hopefully andy will be fixing up ecore_config really soon... :) he was
talking about it day before yesterday on IRC. (IRC - yes that secret place where
all the real development chat happens :) )

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Re: [E-devel] Imlib2: less restrictions for put_back_data

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 29 May 2005 13:53:28 +0200 Tilman Sauerbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Hi,
 I have stumbled across a problem in Imlib2 wrt language bindings.
 
 imlib_image_put_back_data() assumes that the data pointer it has been
 given points is the same that was returned by imlib_image_get_data().
 
 When you're not using Imlib2's C interface, but some language binding,
 this restriction can be hard to meet.
 
 I suggest to apply the attached patch, which will memcpy() the data if
 the pointer passed isn't the original pointer.
 
 Is this okay to commit?

hmm - as i said on irc... (just tidying off mail loos ends) somehow to me this
smells of a ruby/binding issue not something to be put into imlib2's api as a
workaround.. ? :)

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Re: [E-devel] Ecore_config command line tool

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 25 May 2005 12:47:57 +0100 Simon Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Okay Raster, I took the bait..
 
 Here's a simple command-line tool ('econfig') to read and write settings 
 to an Ecore_config file.  The name was chosen to avoid confusion with 
 the altogether different 'ecore-config'.

one request - can you call it ecore_config? :) i just like namespacing all the
binaries as well as libs and everything else :)

 Provided as a patch against ecore-0.9.9.007, but should apply cleanly 
 against CVS HEAD. Given my inexperience with ecore_config, someone 
 should cast an eye over it before committing.
 
 Example usage:
 To set EWL apps to always render to the framebuffer for the current user:
 
 # mkdir $HOME/.e
 # econfig $HOME/.e/config.eet set /ewl/evas/render_method str "fb"
 
 Just type 'econfig' for usage information
 
 One thing -- I've not been diligent about free()ing stuff as it's a fire 
 and forget command-line tool so that kind of thing is done for you by 
 the Linux kernel on exit.  Does that create portability problems wrt 
 other OSes?

nah - i dont think efl is really ever destined for os's that dont free up for
you on exit... :) i've gotten lazy over the years and just ASSUME it will be
done for me now :)

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Re: [E-devel] Czech localization

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 26 May 2005 05:54:36 +0200 Martin Sekera [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hi,
 I'm sending a czech .po for current E17 CVS, fully translated...

in cvs! :)

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Re: [E-devel] EWL: how to set render_method?

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 25 May 2005 10:15:06 +0100 Simon Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  hmm - i'm not sure about ewl - that's nathan and atmos's big baby - i
  personally think it'd be good for ewl to provide an explicit api... you
  could also use the ewl_embed that means you create the evas yourself with
  ecore_evas and then just tell ewl to use it. then you will have full
  control.
 
 I'm always in favour of explicit APIs!   When documentation is thin or
 interfaces are in flux, then looking at a simple C header can speed up
 the learning curve no end.  This has been really handy when learning to
 use Ecore and Evas.

true - that's how i learn just about everything i find :) i read the .h first -
when baffled. look for example. resort to actual docs as a last resort... :)

 That said, I'm impressed how easy it has been to get started with EWL
 (once I got through my initial fumbling!).  Congratulations guys!

thanks :) but there is much room for improvement yet... MUCH!

 Also, what is the file format for ecore_config databases? The EFL 
 cookbook says it is EDB, but ecore_config looks for EETs.  In fact, by 
 my reading of the code, the following should work to create a config.eet 
 file:
  
  
  yeah. it's wrong. i moved it to eet to make it more efficient for config
  file size etc.
  
  
 # echo -en "str\0fb\0" ewl/evas/render_method
 # eet -c config.eet ewl
  
  
  no no :) eet is just a test/debug tool. not intended for creating/editing
  eet's. eet's are really only editable via the api in c. u'd make a tool to
  do it. you could only create eet's via ecore_config's api. the api will
  define what defaults are and so ecore_config will end up writing that out.
  it'd be possible to make a quick tool to generate/modify these files though
  using the api's :)
 
 Shall I take the bait? (ponders...)

moot point by now :)

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Re: [E-devel] DR17+EFL will be in Fedora Core Extras repository :)

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:23:33 +0800 Didier Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Hi all,
   I'm pleased to announce that I've been sponsored by Tom
 'spot' Callaway (from RedHat) to push DR17+EFL in the Fedora Core
 Extras repository. I've been granted CVS access to it. I've yet to go
 for a formal review process of my packages. Well I've got to cleanup
 the packages first.
 
 But the important thing is that we made a step forward. If everything
 goes well with proper timing, DR17 should be available for FC4 users
 directly from Yum. i.e. the extras would be enable by default in the
 FC4 /etc/yum.conf file.

cool :) nice nice. all happy.

 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams have previously been pulling edb and eet into
 the FC extras. And he also proposed to somehow coordinate with me now
 to move forward.

weird - why just edb and eet?

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Re: [E-devel] DR17+EFL will be in Fedora Core Extras repository :)

2005-05-31 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 08:04 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
 On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:23:33 +0800 Didier Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:
  Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams have previously been pulling edb and eet into
  the FC extras. And he also proposed to somehow coordinate with me now
  to move forward.
 
 weird - why just edb and eet?

Because there's only 24 hours in a day, and I'd rather package them
properly than haphazardly.

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[E-devel] Announceing Extortion 0.05.01

2005-05-31 Thread dan sinclair
Announcing Extortion 0.05.01.

So, what is extortion? Well, its a little programming contest for the EWL. 
There are four categories (bugs, feature, graphics and overall), with the 
winner in each category getting a prize. 

For the bugs, feature and graphics section the prize is a tshirt with the 
category logo on the back. For the overall section the prize is either a tshirt 
or hoodie with the category logo on the back.

For more information on Extortion, please take a look at: 
http://edevelop.org/extortion.

Thanks,
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Re: [E-devel] DR17+EFL will be in Fedora Core Extras repository :)

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 31 May 2005 19:36:47 -0400 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 08:04 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
  On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:23:33 +0800 Didier Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  babbled:
   Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams have previously been pulling edb and eet into
   the FC extras. And he also proposed to somehow coordinate with me now
   to move forward.
  
  weird - why just edb and eet?
 
 Because there's only 24 hours in a day, and I'd rather package them
 properly than haphazardly.

but if nothing depends on them... why package them? :)

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Re: [E-devel] DR17+EFL will be in Fedora Core Extras repository :)

2005-05-31 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 09:52 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
 On Tue, 31 May 2005 19:36:47 -0400 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 
  On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 08:04 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
   On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:23:33 +0800 Didier Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   babbled:
Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams have previously been pulling edb and eet into
the FC extras. And he also proposed to somehow coordinate with me now
to move forward.
   
   weird - why just edb and eet?
  
  Because there's only 24 hours in a day, and I'd rather package them
  properly than haphazardly.
 
 but if nothing depends on them... why package them? :)

Because my eventual goal _was_ to get e17 into Extras.

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Re: Re: [E-devel] Memory module - new version

2005-05-31 Thread Stephen Horner
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Re: [E-devel] Memory module - new version

2005-05-31 Thread Matt Lyons
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Stephen Horner wrote:
 Yo gimpel, your public key isn't getting found here. Could you consider
 exporting it to a more commonly known pgp keyserver? 
 
 gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu  --send-key yourkeyhere
 
 Here are a few servers that will work as well.
 keyserver certserver.pgp.com
 keyserver pgp.ai.mit.edu
 
 Thanks
 

I got it fine from pgp server: random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de

PS: Started using e17 yesterday, love it!

Subscribed so I can see if there is anything I can help with, though I
havent done C in a while :-/

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Re: [E-devel] DR17+EFL will be in Fedora Core Extras repository :)

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 31 May 2005 21:01:50 -0400 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 09:52 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
  On Tue, 31 May 2005 19:36:47 -0400 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
  
   On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 08:04 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:23:33 +0800 Didier Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams have previously been pulling edb and eet into
 the FC extras. And he also proposed to somehow coordinate with me now
 to move forward.

weird - why just edb and eet?
   
   Because there's only 24 hours in a day, and I'd rather package them
   properly than haphazardly.
  
  but if nothing depends on them... why package them? :)
 
 Because my eventual goal _was_ to get e17 into Extras.

aaah! :) cool! :)

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Re: [E-devel] DR17+EFL will be in Fedora Core Extras repository :)

2005-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 31 May 2005 23:35:21 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 On Tuesday 31 May 2005 10:32 pm, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
  On Tue, 31 May 2005 21:15:19 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 babbled:
   On Tuesday 31 May 2005 08:52 pm, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Tue, 31 May 2005 19:36:47 -0400 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 08:04 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
  On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:23:33 +0800 Didier Casse
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  babbled:
   Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams have previously been pulling edb and eet
   into the FC extras. And he also proposed to somehow coordinate
   with me now to move forward.
 
  weird - why just edb and eet?

 Because there's only 24 hours in a day, and I'd rather package them
 properly than haphazardly.
   
but if nothing depends on them... why package them? :)
  
   edb has been around for a while ... we've had a bunch of packages in
   Gentoo utilize it before e17 was ever packaged up
   -mike
 
  e projects? or others? just curious :)
 
 e16 related stuff, a p2p program ... iirc, some gnome stuff used to use it 
 too ... someone wrote a backend for portage using edb

but it has no reason to move forward... it worked! did everything it was every
intended to do! :) oh well :) interesting. so others were using it. cool :)

 i think when edb sat at like 1.0.3 forever, people started moving away from it
 -mike
 
 
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Re: [E-devel] DR17+EFL will be in Fedora Core Extras repository :)

2005-05-31 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 21:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 On Tuesday 31 May 2005 08:52 pm, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
  On Tue, 31 May 2005 19:36:47 -0400 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
   On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 08:04 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:23:33 +0800 Didier Casse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
babbled:
 Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams have previously been pulling edb and eet into
 the FC extras. And he also proposed to somehow coordinate with me now
 to move forward.
   
weird - why just edb and eet?
  
   Because there's only 24 hours in a day, and I'd rather package them
   properly than haphazardly.
 
  but if nothing depends on them... why package them? :)
 
 edb has been around for a while ... we've had a bunch of packages in Gentoo 
 utilize it before e17 was ever packaged up

edb and eet are *great* general-purpose libraries. I was going to put
ecore in next before Didier came along.

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Re: [E-devel] DR17+EFL will be in Fedora Core Extras repository :)

2005-05-31 Thread Didier Casse
On 6/1/05, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:23:33 +0800 Didier Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:
 
  Hi all,
I'm pleased to announce that I've been sponsored by Tom
  'spot' Callaway (from RedHat) to push DR17+EFL in the Fedora Core
  Extras repository. I've been granted CVS access to it. I've yet to go
  for a formal review process of my packages. Well I've got to cleanup
  the packages first.
 
  But the important thing is that we made a step forward. If everything
  goes well with proper timing, DR17 should be available for FC4 users
  directly from Yum. i.e. the extras would be enable by default in the
  FC4 /etc/yum.conf file.
 
 cool :) nice nice. all happy.

But there's a bad news to it also. Instead of saying EFLs, I should
now say some EFLs. :-(

emotion BuildRequires /usr/bin/xine-config which is provided in FC by
the package xine-lib-devel. Well this xine-lib-devel or xine-lib or
associated package libfame is NOT and will NOT get into either Fedora
Core CDs or FC extras repository due to legal/patent issues.

It means that apps that depend on emotion or BuildRequires:
emotion-devel will not make it to FC extras and still has to stay in a
3rd party repository.

So stuff like

eclair.spec
emotion.spec
engage.spec
e_utils.spec
ewl.spec
examine.spec

will not make it to FC extras unless BuildRequires: emotion-devel
becomes optional. But so far when i removed the emotion-devel Build
Requirement, the above packages (bar emotion of course) failed to
compile.


-- 
With kind regards,
Didier.


Yum/apt repository for DR17/EFL: http://sps.nus.edu.sg/~didierbe

Didier F.B Casse
PhD candidate, Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS)
National University of Singapore.


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Re: [E-devel] DR17+EFL will be in Fedora Core Extras repository :)

2005-05-31 Thread Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 13:25 +0800, Didier Casse wrote:
 emotion BuildRequires /usr/bin/xine-config which is provided in FC by
 the package xine-lib-devel. Well this xine-lib-devel or xine-lib or
 associated package libfame is NOT and will NOT get into either Fedora
 Core CDs or FC extras repository due to legal/patent issues.

This could be mitigated by moving to gstreamer or providing the ability
to use gstreamer as a backend (as totem does).

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