Re: [E-devel] E SVN: seoz trunk/terminology/src/bin

2013-02-16 Thread daniel.za...@samsung.com
I didn't mean I did it and proposed him a patch :-)
I just proposed the idea...
Concerning the directory set, this is good, I suffer from the same 
annoying thing.

On 02/14/2013 06:03 PM, Daniel Juyung Seo wrote:
> Oh... I like this feature so just leave it :)
> I want one more thing.
> Automatically moving to the directory where I was. ex) $ cd {previous term
> directory before split}
> It must be easy but I should investigate more.
>
> Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:45 AM, daniel.za...@samsung.com <
> daniel.za...@samsung.com> wrote:
>
>> I proposed it to Raster and he told me "mmm", something like that.
>>
>> On 02/14/2013 05:11 PM, Daniel Juyung Seo wrote:
>>> Yay! Do you like it huh?
>>>
>>> Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:39 PM, daniel.za...@samsung.com <
>>> daniel.za...@samsung.com> wrote:
>>>
 Love you Seoz!!! Good surprise!

 On 02/12/2013 06:32 AM, Enlightenment SVN wrote:
> Log:
> terminology main.c: set the focus to the new split terminal.
>
> Author:   seoz
> Date: 2013-02-11 20:32:36 -0800 (Mon, 11 Feb 2013)
> New Revision: 83836
> Trac: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/83836
>
> Modified:
>  trunk/terminology/src/bin/main.c
>
> Modified: trunk/terminology/src/bin/main.c
> ===
> --- trunk/terminology/src/bin/main.c  2013-02-12 03:47:00 UTC (rev
>> 83835)
> +++ trunk/terminology/src/bin/main.c  2013-02-12 04:32:36 UTC (rev
>> 83836)
> @@ -75,6 +75,7 @@
> static void main_term_free(Term *term);
> static void main_term_bg_redo(Term *term);
> static Term *main_term_new(Win *wn, Config *config, const char *cmd,
 Eina_Bool login_shell, const char *cd, int size_w, int size_h, Eina_Bool
 hold);
> +static void _term_focus(Term *term);
>
> static void
> _split_free(Split *sp)
> @@ -151,6 +152,7 @@
>sp2->term = main_term_new(sp->wn, config,
>  NULL, EINA_FALSE, NULL,
>  80, 24, EINA_FALSE);
> +   _term_focus(sp2->term);
>_term_media_update(sp2->term, config);
>evas_object_data_set(sp2->term->term, "sizedone",
>> sp2->term->term);
>
>
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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment-devel Digest, Vol 82, Issue 83

2013-02-16 Thread Jose Gonzalez
المسالم المسالمة wrote:
>> I've already commented at length about the only aspect to this
>> that merits any serious discussion - perhaps you missed that?
>>
>> But since you seem to want some serious critical feedback:
>>
>> Think you there's any shortage of people out there with graphical
>> user interface designs? How many do you see sending 'gifs' of their
>> mockups to the e devel list?
>> What makes you think your gif is so excellent, so much better than
>> any other gui-shell designs out there, that people will go crazy over it
>> and thus convince e17 devs to "get rid of this old fashioned desktop look"
>> that those clueless e17 people have spent so much time constructing...
>> and go with yours instead
>> 
>
> ?
>   
>> 
> did you see me once have tried just tried to mock-up some people here
>
> you seemed to be confused
>
> who did mock the other one  me  or the people who speaks with dirty
> talk
>
>
>   
Again with the language translation issue... A "mockup" is a
non-functioning model of something meant to give an idea of
what the real thing would be like -- in this case you made a gif
that is a "mockup" of what your shell design is meant to be.
Take the time to both check spelling and understand what people
are saying before you off and take offense and start over-reacting.


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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment-devel Digest, Vol 82, Issue 83

2013-02-16 Thread المسالم المسالمة
> I've already commented at length about the only aspect to this
> that merits any serious discussion - perhaps you missed that?
>
> But since you seem to want some serious critical feedback:
>
> Think you there's any shortage of people out there with graphical
> user interface designs? How many do you see sending 'gifs' of their
> mockups to the e devel list?
> What makes you think your gif is so excellent, so much better than
> any other gui-shell designs out there, that people will go crazy over it
> and thus convince e17 devs to "get rid of this old fashioned desktop look"
> that those clueless e17 people have spent so much time constructing...
> and go with yours instead

?
>
>
did you see me once have tried just tried to mock-up some people here

you seemed to be confused

who did mock the other one  me  or the people who speaks with dirty
talk




> The point you should be embracing is not to force people to only
> accept e17's current 'old-fashioned' idea, or your cocky one, or some
> osx clone, or some gnomic notion, etc... but to empower designers
> such as yourself with the ability to do more than just show some gif.
>
> It's to enable them to easily share such shell-skins so that others may
> actually try them. It might even be the case that if yours became very
> popular, then the e17 devs might decide to choose that as (one of)
> some set of 'official' default shells.
>
>
hey man . i think you read my previous message

and i has already said in it  i want to share and give E a good look

not to force you and the other and mocking the others
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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment-devel Digest, Vol 82, Issue 77

2013-02-16 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Carsten wrote:
> .
>> The point you should be embracing is not to force people to only
>> accept e17's current 'old-fashioned' idea, or your cocky one, or some
>> osx clone, or some gnomic notion, etc... but to empower designers
>> such as yourself with the ability to do more than just show some gif.
>>
>> It's to enable them to easily share such shell-skins so that others may
>> actually try them. It might even be the case that if yours became very
>> popular, then the e17 devs might decide to choose that as (one of)
>> some set of 'official' default shells.
>> 
>
> indeed that is a good point. the problem is - your "shell" thing wont do it. 
> :)
> what errr... "al" (lets use that as a short name as i can only make out
> anything sensible from the email address... i'll have to call you "squiggles"
> otherwise :) - no - i dont read arabic :)) seems to want is doable via
> extensions (modules) to implement all the specific behaviour he wants. 
> specific
> modules already implement similar kinds of behaviour - engage, comp-scale etc.
> what he wants is a unified thing i guess that does it all. great - go make
> it. :) t

Indeed, if he's serious about a Rosa Linux distro of some sort
for which he wants his shell design to be the default, then they should
spend some resources to get someone with enough knowledge of
e17/efl to write a new profile and whatever modules he might need,
which implements just what he wants.


> he problem is you're trying to go the next level... which is "what id
> there are 50 designers all with awesome ideas - how do they package them up 
> and
> give them to people". that's your shell thing. and as such all of these are in
> fact large blobs of logic (code) and so are not readily portable and 
> shippable.
> the best that can be done is offer a module and then alongside a profile that
> enables it and configures it. the module cant sensibly ship with the profile
> because it is not "just data". :)
>
>   

It depends on what one considers a "shell-skin" to mean.
If you mean it to contain e17 C modules then you could have
issues with that.
However, it doesn't have to mean that... One can do a lot
with just packaging a desktop config of existing gadgets/modules,
plus wallpapers, plus gadget themes, etc... and it would define
a good notion of such a thing.
If it needs to depend on specific C modules that are not part of some
distribution say, then those would have to be downloaded separately.
However, one can imagine e17 jscripted modules that could do a lot
of the basic kinds of functionality, much as edje, and that could be
part of the shell-theme bundle.

The overwhelming majority of people's shell customizations
does not involve writing new C modules... just selecting, theming,
and positioning existing ones. And again, any requirements on
having some particular C module around would be just that - go and get
module blingo over at this link here as the cool-blingo shell-theme
uses that.


> so right now all of this is possible, but in 2 parts. make a module, then a
> profile to configure it. :) i know i don't have the time to do ui experiments
> myself. i'd rather not have some grand unified module here either but just
> specific features you can turn on and off provided by a range of modules, not 
> a
> single one. so you can take and configure just one of the elements you like 
> not
> not have to take the rest. :)
>   
Yes, you can do that (make e17 C modules and make profiles using 
those, etc).
But this is more something that distros or other organizations would 
do... not for
skinners/themers or just users who like to do their own desktop 
customizations.
As above, this latter is more like selecting some set of existing 
gadgets/modules,
some config for placing them here and there, some themes for the 
gadgets, maybe
some matching wallpaper, cursor, ... those kinds of things (I would tend 
to not include
normal e17 themes as part of that since those already have their own 
system, and you
can just say that the shell-skin cool-blingo looks best if used with the 
default e17 theme).

You know Cedric wants to do this kind of thing via the exchange 
site, and it's just
a matter of formalizing what to include/exclude, writing a managing 
module for it, etc..
much as is the case with the current themes/wallpaper/splash subsystems.



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Re: [E-devel] different shelves for different virtual desktops

2013-02-16 Thread oeai
well this is why i was "thinking of @the_way_this_can_be done
and html5 is just a good example than you can find anywhere how's it works
well it's good that this can be done already really
and really there's no need of so much functions that potentially could lead to 
exploits, so taking only most useful parts out of the webkit would be probably 
more effective, so - no need to use of java and only few functions are really 
needed to be used - read xml, set change timer, set appearance effect - and 
there you go with your homeworld picture gallery parser, but there can be just 
an extra background for all that and support of displaying few images at once 
aka  being as custom icons to set there moving pictures.
So actually all that needs to be done in this particular case is just adding few
functions for background and icons to add more than one picture and set the 
time of changing this picture to another and also to disable those effects in 
non-3d-mode and while those icons are in the background - invisible.
but it's nice having a discussion ',)
webkit? it's nice to have such opportunity already. it's just much simplier for 
many web-designers to develop using standard technics, well maybe the 
cutted-version with a not so much memory leaks will be included in.
thanks.

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:34:53 +0900
From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
Subject: Re: [E-devel] different shelves for different virtual
desktops

>>  I don't know about the state of an webkit-efl edje external module,
>> but if so then you could conceivably wrap this via an edje and have it
>> set as an e17 background (though I can imagine Cedric groaning about
>> the overhead).
>>  However, this is exactly the kind of capability (modulo the html5 part)
>> that an e17 shell-skinning mechanism would enable...  You would thus
>> create your notion of an e17 desktop-shell and distribute it for people to
>> try out, just as is done with widgetry/gadgetry themes, backgrounds, etc.
>> The same as those DesktopX and Rainmeter skins enable in the Windows
>> world to great effect. But it remains to be done.
> aaah webkit in your background.. be prepared to see your memory vanish then. 
> :)
> i'm not going to do it.
>


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Re: [E-devel] Build issue

2013-02-16 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 21:09:25 +0100 Davide Andreoli
 wrote:

> 2013/2/16 David Seikel 
> 
> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:31:07 +0100 Davide Andreoli
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > 2013/2/16 Leandro Dorileo 
> > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 03:58:47PM +0100, Davide Andreoli wrote:
> > > > > 2013/2/16 Cedric BAIL 
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our current build system is currently in a bad state and
> > > > > > there was no improvements in the past week. So here is I
> > > > > > think a TODO that everyone will agree with.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - siginfo is not a portable API. There was a test and proper
> > > > > > #if in 1.7, we should bring them back.
> > > > > > - libmount is not recent enough for eeze 1.8 on debian.
> > > > > > There was working code in 1.7, we should bring it back.
> > > > > > - binary executed inside the build tree don't use the just
> > > > > > build library, but the system one.
> > > > > > - the profile (UI, server) are not there yet and should be
> > > > > > added as latest discussion did reach consensus on that
> > > > > > topic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I may have forgotten some issue here, so kindly remind them
> > > > > > here. At least for the four top one, they will be blocker
> > > > > > for the 1.8 release and need to be solved. I may go and fix
> > > > > > the one I can when I have time, but any help will be
> > > > > > appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I suggest also to disable physics by default, as libbulett
> > > > > 2.8 is only is super recent distro.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I still can't see a use case where ./autogen.sh
> > > > --disable-physics wont work.
> > > >
> > >
> > > It works, indeed. But is annoing, why not just disable physics if
> > > bullet is not found?
> > > There's no usage of ephysics, thus it seems to me better to leave
> > > out
> >
> > E17 has a standard physics module, also there's efbb, plus I'm
> > using it my 3D experiment.  That's three I found without even
> > trying.  B-)
> >
> 
> The physics module was totally buggy when I tried it (confirmed by the
> author in chat), your window just move randomly on the screen.
> I don't know why is in as an 'official' module, it is something that
> should stay out for the final user.
> 
> The fact that you are using it in your experiment surly is not a good
> reason to make it mandatory for everyone :P
> 
> And yes, efbb is the only good user of it. but still not a good
> reason to make it mandatory IMO.

Actually I just remembered.  Lua has even less usage, and I'm pretty
much the only one.  It's mandatory.  On the other hand, it's commonly
in Linux distros, so no big deal.  Plus, Raster wanted it in, so in it
went.  Eventually I'll add ePhysics bindings to Lua.  Muahahaha

Er I mean ePhysics Lua bindings will be as optional as it is in the rest
of EFL at the time.  B-)

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Re: [E-devel] phab down?

2013-02-16 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 03:30:13 +1000 David Seikel  said:
>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:46:45 +0100 dieter roelants
>>  wrote:
>> > FWIW, I saw the same "unable to generate" error for the cgit site
>> > yesterday. It works now, as does phab.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:38:56 +
>> > Tom Hacohen  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Wtf is allI can say. Wfm.
>> > > On 16 Feb 2013 12:57, "Carsten Haitzler" 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:15:35 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > said:
>> > > >
>> > > > > It works for me.
>> > > > > Do you still have problems?
>> > > >
>> > > > yeah. it's still down. for me. if i ssh into phab and check
>> > > > access.log - i dont even see my gets in access.log - or
>> > > > error.log...
>> > > >
>> > > > if i go i get redirected to https for phab... and on firefox it
>> > > > says:
>> > > >
>> > > > Secure Connection Failed
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >   An error occurred during a connection to
>> > > > phab.enlightenment.org.
>> > > >
>> > > > Unable to generate public/private key pair.
>> > > >
>> > > > (Error code: sec_error_keygen_fail)
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >   The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
>> > > > authenticity of
>> > > > the received data could not be verified. Please contact the
>> > > > website owners to
>> > > > inform them of this problem. Alternatively, use the command found
>> > > > in the help
>> > > > menu to report this broken site.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > on chromium i get:
>> > > >
>> > > > This webpage is not available
>> > > > The webpage at https://phab.enlightenment.org/ might be
>> > > > temporarily down or it
>> > > > may have moved permanently to a new web address. Error 2
>> > > > (net::ERR_FAILED): Unknown error.
>> > > >
>> > > > wtf?
>> > > >
>> > > > > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Carsten Haitzler
>> > > > > > > > > >wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > wassap? it was up last night... who killzeddz it?
>>
>> Works for me to.
>
> beber fixed it.. its some bug in ssl support in haproxy. it was using stunnel
> before. it only affects some clients - i guess different ssl negotiation 
> level.

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Re: [E-devel] Build issue

2013-02-16 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Davide Andreoli  wrote:
> 2013/2/16 Cedric BAIL 
>> Our current build system is currently in a bad state and there was no
>> improvements in the past week. So here is I think a TODO that everyone
>> will agree with.
>>
>> - siginfo is not a portable API. There was a test and proper #if in
>> 1.7, we should bring them back.
>> - libmount is not recent enough for eeze 1.8 on debian. There was
>> working code in 1.7, we should bring it back.
>> - binary executed inside the build tree don't use the just build
>> library, but the system one.
>> - the profile (UI, server) are not there yet and should be added as
>> latest discussion did reach consensus on that topic.
>>
>> I may have forgotten some issue here, so kindly remind them here. At
>> least for the four top one, they will be blocker for the 1.8 release
>> and need to be solved. I may go and fix the one I can when I have
>> time, but any help will be appreciated.
>>
>
> I suggest also to disable physics by default, as libbulett 2.8 is only is
> super recent distro.

That one can already be disabled by some configure flags, so I am
happy with situation. It does encourage people to try and get bullet.
That is useful as it is part of Edje and means we can have theme and
wallpaper using physics effect. Nobody did try it yet, but some
physics enabled wallpaper for e17 could be fun I think. Maybe a
example would be needed here so people start to do some.
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Re: [E-devel] different shelves for different virtual desktops

2013-02-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 13:18:27 +1000 David Seikel  said:

> On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:34:42 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:40:45 -0500 Jose Gonzalez 
> > said:
> > 
> > > oeai wrote:
> > > > Well i was thinking about using gifs recently but i was thinking
> > > > in the way of html5 and decided that i can produce a better image
> > > > (because i got more controls in for example jquery) by providing
> > > > some special workaround for images. so i've created an animated
> > > >  table full of  and just told the script to act
> > > > as it can - so actually i can even set the particular place and
> > > > orientation of each image and this works and the resolution of
> > > > images is good and this is what would be interesting to do with
> > > > icons and backgrounds. well maybe you wont just use those gifs or
> > > > videos but this can be an html background?
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] here is the new-UI for E17 if you want to
> > > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:49:32 -0500 Jose
> > > > Gonzalez wrote:
> > > >   
> > > >> /me fails to make jokes about beating things with cocks.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> This person is not so good at expressing themselves in English,
> > > >> and there are some other ideas in the animated GIF they posted
> > > >> other than a dock with a clock.  Some of them might be good
> > > >> ideas to. 
> > > 
> > > I don't know about the state of an webkit-efl edje external
> > > module, but if so then you could conceivably wrap this via an edje
> > > and have it set as an e17 background (though I can imagine Cedric
> > > groaning about the overhead).
> > > However, this is exactly the kind of capability (modulo the
> > > html5 part) that an e17 shell-skinning mechanism would enable...
> > > You would thus create your notion of an e17 desktop-shell and
> > > distribute it for people to try out, just as is done with
> > > widgetry/gadgetry themes, backgrounds, etc. The same as those
> > > DesktopX and Rainmeter skins enable in the Windows world to great
> > > effect. But it remains to be done.
> > 
> > aaah webkit in your background.. be prepared to see your memory
> > vanish then. :) i'm not going to do it.
> 
> Think there's more than just Cedric will groan about that.
> 
> /me adds to the chorus of groans.
> 
> Just as a datapoint - a typical Second Life virtual world viewer is
> already a bloated montser, and one third of that is webkit.  It's not
> tiny.

indeed. and there is a big difference between it being your browser.. or second
life viewer... this is your application. the thing you want to run. if it uses
memory - go ahead... but if your desktop env is chewing away memory FROM your
apps because someone things its great to have webkit there.. thats memory NOT
available to apps...

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Re: [E-devel] E SVN: jeyzu trunk/e/src/modules/mixer <- BROKEN.

2013-02-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:04 -0800 "Enlightenment SVN"
 said:

you know this series of "clean up mixer" has nicely totally broken pulse audio
support... like its no longer detected at all and i'm left with all my audio
muted and no sound coming out and no way to fix it. totally appreciate the
effort to clean/fix/work on mixer... not good if it makes things massively
worse to the point of audio being useless in e17 :) (if you use pulse.. which i
think happens to be most people).

i'm reverting your changes back to r83903 (which was harmless spacing changes).
can you take your changesets and go over them.. and test with pulseaudio
support too... and re-apply when you have stuff working... in all cases. :)

> Log:
> e_mixer: cleanup mixer card and channel selection code path
> 
> Author:   jeyzu
> Date: 2013-02-15 08:53:04 -0800 (Fri, 15 Feb 2013)
> New Revision: 83959
> Trac: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/83959
> 
> Modified:
>   trunk/e/src/modules/mixer/app_mixer.c
> trunk/e/src/modules/mixer/e_mod_main.c 
> 
> Modified: trunk/e/src/modules/mixer/app_mixer.c
> ===
> --- trunk/e/src/modules/mixer/app_mixer.c 2013-02-15 15:47:41 UTC (rev
> 83958) +++ trunk/e/src/modules/mixer/app_mixer.c  2013-02-15 16:53:04
> UTC (rev 83959) @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
>  typedef struct E_Mixer_App_Dialog_Data
>  {
> E_Mixer_System   *sys;
> -   const char   *card;
> +   const char   *sys_card_name;
> const char   *channel_name;
> int   lock_sliders;
> Eina_List*cards;
> @@ -165,19 +165,14 @@
>  {
> struct e_mixer_app_ui_channel_editor *ui = &app->ui.channel_editor;
> E_Mixer_Channel_State state;
> -   const char *card_name;
>  
> -   card_name = e_mod_mixer_card_name_get(app->card);
> -
> -   if (!card_name)
> +   if ((!app->sys_card_name) || (!app->channel_name))
>   {
>  _disable_channel_editor(app);
>  return;
>   }
>  
> -   e_widget_entry_text_set(ui->card, card_name);
> -   eina_stringshare_del(card_name);
> -
> +   e_widget_entry_text_set(ui->card, app->sys_card_name);
> e_widget_entry_text_set(ui->channel, app->channel_name);
>  
> if (e_mod_mixer_channel_is_boost(app->channel_info))
> @@ -261,7 +256,7 @@
> Eina_List *l;
> Evas_Object *ilist;
> int header_input;
> -   int i;
> +   int i, selected;
>  
> ilist = app->ui.channels.list;
> edje_freeze();
> @@ -270,18 +265,16 @@
>  
> if (app->sys)
>   e_mod_mixer_del(app->sys);
> -   app->sys = e_mod_mixer_new(app->card);
> +   app->sys = e_mod_mixer_new(app->sys_card_name);
> if (_mixer_using_default)
>   e_mixer_alsa_callback_set(app->sys, _cb_system_update, app);
>  
> -   eina_stringshare_del(app->channel_name);
> -   app->channel_name = e_mod_mixer_channel_default_name_get(app->sys);
> -
> if (app->channel_infos)
>   e_mod_mixer_channel_infos_free(app->channel_infos);
> app->channel_infos = e_mod_mixer_channel_infos_get(app->sys);
>  
> i = 0;
> +   selected = 0;
> header_input = 0;
> for (l = app->channel_infos; l; l = l->next, i++)
>   {
> @@ -304,33 +297,29 @@
>  info->app = app;
>  e_widget_ilist_append(ilist, NULL, info->name, _cb_channel_selected,
>info, info->name);
> -if (app->channel_name && info->name &&
> +if ((selected == 0) && app->channel_name && info->name &&
>  (strcmp(app->channel_name, info->name) == 0))
>{
>   e_widget_ilist_selected_set(ilist, i);
>   app->channel_info = info;
> + selected = 1;
>}
>   }
>  
> +   if ((selected == 0) && (i > 0))
> + e_widget_ilist_selected_set(ilist, 0);
> +   else
> + app->channel_name = NULL;
> +
> e_widget_ilist_go(ilist);
> e_widget_ilist_thaw(ilist);
> edje_thaw();
>  }
>  
>  static void
> -select_card(E_Mixer_App_Dialog_Data *app)
> -{
> -   _populate_channels(app);
> -   if (e_widget_ilist_count(app->ui.channels.list) > 0)
> - e_widget_ilist_selected_set(app->ui.channels.list, 1);
> -   else
> - _disable_channel_editor(app);
> -}
> -
> -static void
>  _cb_card_selected(void *data)
>  {
> -   select_card(data);
> +   _populate_channels(data);
>  }
>  
>  static void
> @@ -340,12 +329,11 @@
> const char *card;
> Eina_List *l;
>  
> -   app->card = e_mod_mixer_card_default_get();
> app->cards = e_mod_mixer_card_names_get();
> if (eina_list_count(app->cards) < 2)
>   return;
>  
> -   ui->list = e_widget_ilist_add(evas, 32, 32, &app->card);
> +   ui->list = e_widget_ilist_add(evas, 32, 32, &app->sys_card_name);
> e_widget_size_min_set(ui->list, 180, 100);
> e_widget_ilist_go(ui->list);
> EINA_LIST_FOREACH(app->cards, l, card)
> @@ -446,12 +434,6 @@
> _create_channels(dialog, evas, app);
> _create_channel_editor(dialog, evas, app);
>  
> -   

Re: [E-devel] different shelves for different virtual desktops

2013-02-16 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 11:34:42 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
 wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:40:45 -0500 Jose Gonzalez 
> said:
> 
> > oeai wrote:
> > > Well i was thinking about using gifs recently but i was thinking
> > > in the way of html5 and decided that i can produce a better image
> > > (because i got more controls in for example jquery) by providing
> > > some special workaround for images. so i've created an animated
> > >  table full of  and just told the script to act
> > > as it can - so actually i can even set the particular place and
> > > orientation of each image and this works and the resolution of
> > > images is good and this is what would be interesting to do with
> > > icons and backgrounds. well maybe you wont just use those gifs or
> > > videos but this can be an html background?
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] here is the new-UI for E17 if you want to
> > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:49:32 -0500 Jose
> > > Gonzalez wrote:
> > >   
> > >> /me fails to make jokes about beating things with cocks.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> This person is not so good at expressing themselves in English,
> > >> and there are some other ideas in the animated GIF they posted
> > >> other than a dock with a clock.  Some of them might be good
> > >> ideas to. 
> > 
> > I don't know about the state of an webkit-efl edje external
> > module, but if so then you could conceivably wrap this via an edje
> > and have it set as an e17 background (though I can imagine Cedric
> > groaning about the overhead).
> > However, this is exactly the kind of capability (modulo the
> > html5 part) that an e17 shell-skinning mechanism would enable...
> > You would thus create your notion of an e17 desktop-shell and
> > distribute it for people to try out, just as is done with
> > widgetry/gadgetry themes, backgrounds, etc. The same as those
> > DesktopX and Rainmeter skins enable in the Windows world to great
> > effect. But it remains to be done.
> 
> aaah webkit in your background.. be prepared to see your memory
> vanish then. :) i'm not going to do it.

Think there's more than just Cedric will groan about that.

/me adds to the chorus of groans.

Just as a datapoint - a typical Second Life virtual world viewer is
already a bloated montser, and one third of that is webkit.  It's not
tiny.

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Re: [E-devel] [Elementary][1.7.x] Genlist item_content_get_hook bug ?

2013-02-16 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
Hello, thanks for the patch but this looks wrong.

Genlist item has two types of elements:
1. Text
  "Text" is a text data that can be set to TEXT or TEXTBLOCK part of
genlist item.
  The text is retrieved by text_get callback and set in
_item_text_realize() function.
2. Content
  "Content" is an object that ca be swallowed into SWALLOW part of genlist
item.
  The object is retrieved by content_get callback and swallowed in
_item_content_realize() function.

So, _item_content_get_hook() is used to get the swallowed object to the
SWALLOW part.
So edje_object_part_swallow_get() is correct.

Thanks.

Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Nicolas Aguirre
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I found a strange behaviour in the item_content_get_hook function of
> genlist in the 1.7.x branch.
> When elm_object_part_content_get is called, only swallow parts are
> returned. Attached a fix wich return any parts of the item object. It seems
> that this is already corrected in the trunk version of elementary so i
> think that we can see this patch as a backport ?
>
> So should i commit this patch or not ?
>
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Re: [E-devel] phab down?

2013-02-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 03:30:13 +1000 David Seikel  said:

> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:46:45 +0100 dieter roelants
>  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > FWIW, I saw the same "unable to generate" error for the cgit site
> > yesterday. It works now, as does phab.
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:38:56 +
> > Tom Hacohen  wrote:
> > 
> > > Wtf is allI can say. Wfm.
> > > On 16 Feb 2013 12:57, "Carsten Haitzler" 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:15:35 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo
> > > >  > > > >
> > > > said:
> > > >
> > > > > It works for me.
> > > > > Do you still have problems?
> > > >
> > > > yeah. it's still down. for me. if i ssh into phab and check
> > > > access.log - i dont even see my gets in access.log - or
> > > > error.log...
> > > >
> > > > if i go i get redirected to https for phab... and on firefox it
> > > > says:
> > > >
> > > > Secure Connection Failed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   An error occurred during a connection to
> > > > phab.enlightenment.org.
> > > >
> > > > Unable to generate public/private key pair.
> > > >
> > > > (Error code: sec_error_keygen_fail)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
> > > > authenticity of
> > > > the received data could not be verified. Please contact the
> > > > website owners to
> > > > inform them of this problem. Alternatively, use the command found
> > > > in the help
> > > > menu to report this broken site.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > on chromium i get:
> > > >
> > > > This webpage is not available
> > > > The webpage at https://phab.enlightenment.org/ might be
> > > > temporarily down or it
> > > > may have moved permanently to a new web address. Error 2
> > > > (net::ERR_FAILED): Unknown error.
> > > >
> > > > wtf?
> > > >
> > > > > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Carsten Haitzler
> > > > >  > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > wassap? it was up last night... who killzeddz it?
> 
> Works for me to.

beber fixed it.. its some bug in ssl support in haproxy. it was using stunnel
before. it only affects some clients - i guess different ssl negotiation level.

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Re: [E-devel] different shelves for different virtual desktops

2013-02-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:40:45 -0500 Jose Gonzalez  said:

> oeai wrote:
> > Well i was thinking about using gifs recently but i was thinking in the way
> > of html5 and decided that i can produce a better image (because i got more
> > controls in for example jquery) by providing some special workaround for
> > images. so i've created an animated  table full of  and
> > just told the script to act as it can - so actually i can even set the
> > particular place and orientation of each image and this works and the
> > resolution of images is good and this is what would be interesting to do
> > with icons and backgrounds. well maybe you wont just use those gifs or
> > videos but this can be an html background?
> >
> > Subject: Re: [E-devel] here is the new-UI for E17 if you want to
> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:49:32 -0500 Jose Gonzalez
> > wrote:
> >   
> >> /me fails to make jokes about beating things with cocks.
> >>
> >>
> >> This person is not so good at expressing themselves in English, and
> >> there are some other ideas in the animated GIF they posted other than a
> >> dock with a clock.  Some of them might be good ideas to.
> >> 
> 
> I don't know about the state of an webkit-efl edje external module,
> but if so then you could conceivably wrap this via an edje and have it
> set as an e17 background (though I can imagine Cedric groaning about
> the overhead).
> However, this is exactly the kind of capability (modulo the html5 part)
> that an e17 shell-skinning mechanism would enable...  You would thus
> create your notion of an e17 desktop-shell and distribute it for people to
> try out, just as is done with widgetry/gadgetry themes, backgrounds, etc.
> The same as those DesktopX and Rainmeter skins enable in the Windows
> world to great effect. But it remains to be done.

aaah webkit in your background.. be prepared to see your memory vanish then. :)
i'm not going to do it.

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment-devel Digest, Vol 82, Issue 77

2013-02-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:07:57 -0500 Jose Gonzalez  said:

> المسالم المسالمة wrote:
> >> Um, so it's like engage, but with a cock?  Er I meant clock.
> >>
> >> ==
> >> 
> >
> >
> >   
> >> Ah yes, more than just engage then.  Is there an URL to this rosa linux
> >> you mention?
> >>
> >> ==
> >>
> >> 
> >
> >
> >   
> >> We must concede that it's certainly pushing the bleeding edge
> >> of user interfaces to put a cock on the desktop. Perhaps it should be
> >> called a glandule rather than a mere module?
> >> Sure beats any of those DesktopX and Rainmeter desktop skins.
> >>
> >> 
> > ==
> >
> > yah ... keep it like that . make fun of other peoples
> >
> > from their speed writing mistakes
> >
> > by the way . are we in gabrial iglesias  standup revolution
> >
> > or ... enlightinment serious discussion
> >
> > so  please be serious
> >   
> 
> I've already commented at length about the only aspect to this
> that merits any serious discussion - perhaps you missed that?
> 
> But since you seem to want some serious critical feedback:
> 
> Think you there's any shortage of people out there with graphical
> user interface designs? How many do you see sending 'gifs' of their
> mockups to the e devel list?
> What makes you think your gif is so excellent, so much better than
> any other gui-shell designs out there, that people will go crazy over it
> and thus convince e17 devs to "get rid of this old fashioned desktop look"
> that those clueless e17 people have spent so much time constructing...
> and go with yours instead?
> 
> The point you should be embracing is not to force people to only
> accept e17's current 'old-fashioned' idea, or your cocky one, or some
> osx clone, or some gnomic notion, etc... but to empower designers
> such as yourself with the ability to do more than just show some gif.
> 
> It's to enable them to easily share such shell-skins so that others may
> actually try them. It might even be the case that if yours became very
> popular, then the e17 devs might decide to choose that as (one of)
> some set of 'official' default shells.

indeed that is a good point. the problem is - your "shell" thing wont do it. :)
what errr... "al" (lets use that as a short name as i can only make out
anything sensible from the email address... i'll have to call you "squiggles"
otherwise :) - no - i dont read arabic :)) seems to want is doable via
extensions (modules) to implement all the specific behaviour he wants. specific
modules already implement similar kinds of behaviour - engage, comp-scale etc.
what he wants is a unified thing i guess that does it all. great - go make
it. :) the problem is you're trying to go the next level... which is "what id
there are 50 designers all with awesome ideas - how do they package them up and
give them to people". that's your shell thing. and as such all of these are in
fact large blobs of logic (code) and so are not readily portable and shippable.
the best that can be done is offer a module and then alongside a profile that
enables it and configures it. the module cant sensibly ship with the profile
because it is not "just data". :)

so right now all of this is possible, but in 2 parts. make a module, then a
profile to configure it. :) i know i don't have the time to do ui experiments
myself. i'd rather not have some grand unified module here either but just
specific features you can turn on and off provided by a range of modules, not a
single one. so you can take and configure just one of the elements you like not
not have to take the rest. :)

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Re: [E-devel] different shelves for different virtual desktops

2013-02-16 Thread Jose Gonzalez
oeai wrote:
> Well i was thinking about using gifs recently but i was thinking in the way 
> of html5 and decided that i can produce a better image (because i got more 
> controls in for example jquery) by providing some special workaround for 
> images.
> so i've created an animated  table full of  and just told 
> the script to act as it can - so actually i can even set the particular place 
> and orientation of each image and this works and the resolution of images is 
> good and this is what would be interesting to do with icons and backgrounds.
> well maybe you wont just use those gifs or videos but this can be an html 
> background?
>
> Subject: Re: [E-devel] here is the new-UI for E17 if you want to
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:49:32 -0500 Jose Gonzalez
> wrote:
>   
>> /me fails to make jokes about beating things with cocks.
>>
>>
>> This person is not so good at expressing themselves in English, and
>> there are some other ideas in the animated GIF they posted other than a
>> dock with a clock.  Some of them might be good ideas to.
>> 

I don't know about the state of an webkit-efl edje external module,
but if so then you could conceivably wrap this via an edje and have it
set as an e17 background (though I can imagine Cedric groaning about
the overhead).
However, this is exactly the kind of capability (modulo the html5 part)
that an e17 shell-skinning mechanism would enable...  You would thus
create your notion of an e17 desktop-shell and distribute it for people to
try out, just as is done with widgetry/gadgetry themes, backgrounds, etc.
The same as those DesktopX and Rainmeter skins enable in the Windows
world to great effect. But it remains to be done.




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[E-devel] [Elementary][1.7.x] Genlist item_content_get_hook bug ?

2013-02-16 Thread Nicolas Aguirre
Hi,

I found a strange behaviour in the item_content_get_hook function of
genlist in the 1.7.x branch.
When elm_object_part_content_get is called, only swallow parts are
returned. Attached a fix wich return any parts of the item object. It seems
that this is already corrected in the trunk version of elementary so i
think that we can see this patch as a backport ?

So should i commit this patch or not ?

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment-devel Digest, Vol 82, Issue 77

2013-02-16 Thread Jose Gonzalez
المسالم المسالمة wrote:
>> Um, so it's like engage, but with a cock?  Er I meant clock.
>>
>> ==
>> 
>
>
>   
>> Ah yes, more than just engage then.  Is there an URL to this rosa linux
>> you mention?
>>
>> ==
>>
>> 
>
>
>   
>> We must concede that it's certainly pushing the bleeding edge
>> of user interfaces to put a cock on the desktop. Perhaps it should be
>> called a glandule rather than a mere module?
>> Sure beats any of those DesktopX and Rainmeter desktop skins.
>>
>> 
> ==
>
> yah ... keep it like that . make fun of other peoples
>
> from their speed writing mistakes
>
> by the way . are we in gabrial iglesias  standup revolution
>
> or ... enlightinment serious discussion
>
> so  please be serious
>   

I've already commented at length about the only aspect to this
that merits any serious discussion - perhaps you missed that?

But since you seem to want some serious critical feedback:

Think you there's any shortage of people out there with graphical
user interface designs? How many do you see sending 'gifs' of their
mockups to the e devel list?
What makes you think your gif is so excellent, so much better than
any other gui-shell designs out there, that people will go crazy over it
and thus convince e17 devs to "get rid of this old fashioned desktop look"
that those clueless e17 people have spent so much time constructing...
and go with yours instead?

The point you should be embracing is not to force people to only
accept e17's current 'old-fashioned' idea, or your cocky one, or some
osx clone, or some gnomic notion, etc... but to empower designers
such as yourself with the ability to do more than just show some gif.

It's to enable them to easily share such shell-skins so that others may
actually try them. It might even be the case that if yours became very
popular, then the e17 devs might decide to choose that as (one of)
some set of 'official' default shells.


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Re: [E-devel] different shelves for different virtual desktops

2013-02-16 Thread oeai
Well i was thinking about using gifs recently but i was thinking in the way of 
html5 and decided that i can produce a better image (because i got more 
controls in for example jquery) by providing some special workaround for images.
so i've created an animated  table full of  and just told the 
script to act as it can - so actually i can even set the particular place and 
orientation of each image and this works and the resolution of images is good 
and this is what would be interesting to do with icons and backgrounds.
well maybe you wont just use those gifs or videos but this can be an html 
background?

Subject: Re: [E-devel] here is the new-UI for E17 if you want to
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:49:32 -0500 Jose Gonzalez
wrote:
> /me fails to make jokes about beating things with cocks.
>
>
> This person is not so good at expressing themselves in English, and
> there are some other ideas in the animated GIF they posted other than a
> dock with a clock.  Some of them might be good ideas to.



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Re: [E-devel] Build issue

2013-02-16 Thread Lucas De Marchi
On Feb 16, 2013 6:12 PM, "Davide Andreoli"  wrote:
>
> 2013/2/16 David Seikel 
>
> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:31:07 +0100 Davide Andreoli
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > 2013/2/16 Leandro Dorileo 
> > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 03:58:47PM +0100, Davide Andreoli wrote:
> > > > > 2013/2/16 Cedric BAIL 
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Our current build system is currently in a bad state and there
> > > > > > was no improvements in the past week. So here is I think a TODO
> > > > > > that everyone will agree with.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - siginfo is not a portable API. There was a test and proper
> > > > > > #if in 1.7, we should bring them back.
> > > > > > - libmount is not recent enough for eeze 1.8 on debian. There
> > > > > > was working code in 1.7, we should bring it back.
> > > > > > - binary executed inside the build tree don't use the just build
> > > > > > library, but the system one.
> > > > > > - the profile (UI, server) are not there yet and should be
> > > > > > added as latest discussion did reach consensus on that topic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I may have forgotten some issue here, so kindly remind them
> > > > > > here. At least for the four top one, they will be blocker for
> > > > > > the 1.8 release and need to be solved. I may go and fix the one
> > > > > > I can when I have time, but any help will be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I suggest also to disable physics by default, as libbulett 2.8 is
> > > > > only is super recent distro.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I still can't see a use case where ./autogen.sh --disable-physics
> > > > wont work.
> > > >
> > >
> > > It works, indeed. But is annoing, why not just disable physics if
> > > bullet is not found?
> > > There's no usage of ephysics, thus it seems to me better to leave out
> >
> > E17 has a standard physics module, also there's efbb, plus I'm using it
> > my 3D experiment.  That's three I found without even trying.  B-)
> >
>
> The physics module was totally buggy when I tried it (confirmed by the
> author in chat), your window just move randomly on the screen.
> I don't know why is in as an 'official' module, it is something that
should
> stay out for the final user.
>
> The fact that you are using it in your experiment surly is not a good
reason
> to make it mandatory for everyone :P

s/mandatory/default/

We are not forcing anyone to use it.

Lucas De Marchi

>
> And yes, efbb is the only good user of it. but still not a good reason to
> make it mandatory IMO.
>
>
>
> > Normally I would agree with you about disabling it if bullet is not
> > found, but Leandro has a valid point.  I'd want more distros to have an
> > EFL compatible bullet to.
> >
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Re: [E-devel] Build issue

2013-02-16 Thread Davide Andreoli
2013/2/16 David Seikel 

> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:31:07 +0100 Davide Andreoli
>  wrote:
>
> > 2013/2/16 Leandro Dorileo 
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 03:58:47PM +0100, Davide Andreoli wrote:
> > > > 2013/2/16 Cedric BAIL 
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Our current build system is currently in a bad state and there
> > > > > was no improvements in the past week. So here is I think a TODO
> > > > > that everyone will agree with.
> > > > >
> > > > > - siginfo is not a portable API. There was a test and proper
> > > > > #if in 1.7, we should bring them back.
> > > > > - libmount is not recent enough for eeze 1.8 on debian. There
> > > > > was working code in 1.7, we should bring it back.
> > > > > - binary executed inside the build tree don't use the just build
> > > > > library, but the system one.
> > > > > - the profile (UI, server) are not there yet and should be
> > > > > added as latest discussion did reach consensus on that topic.
> > > > >
> > > > > I may have forgotten some issue here, so kindly remind them
> > > > > here. At least for the four top one, they will be blocker for
> > > > > the 1.8 release and need to be solved. I may go and fix the one
> > > > > I can when I have time, but any help will be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I suggest also to disable physics by default, as libbulett 2.8 is
> > > > only is super recent distro.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I still can't see a use case where ./autogen.sh --disable-physics
> > > wont work.
> > >
> >
> > It works, indeed. But is annoing, why not just disable physics if
> > bullet is not found?
> > There's no usage of ephysics, thus it seems to me better to leave out
>
> E17 has a standard physics module, also there's efbb, plus I'm using it
> my 3D experiment.  That's three I found without even trying.  B-)
>

The physics module was totally buggy when I tried it (confirmed by the
author in chat), your window just move randomly on the screen.
I don't know why is in as an 'official' module, it is something that should
stay out for the final user.

The fact that you are using it in your experiment surly is not a good reason
to make it mandatory for everyone :P

And yes, efbb is the only good user of it. but still not a good reason to
make it mandatory IMO.



> Normally I would agree with you about disabling it if bullet is not
> found, but Leandro has a valid point.  I'd want more distros to have an
> EFL compatible bullet to.
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Re: [E-devel] phab down?

2013-02-16 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:46:45 +0100 dieter roelants
 wrote:

> 
> FWIW, I saw the same "unable to generate" error for the cgit site
> yesterday. It works now, as does phab.
> 
> 
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:38:56 +
> Tom Hacohen  wrote:
> 
> > Wtf is allI can say. Wfm.
> > On 16 Feb 2013 12:57, "Carsten Haitzler" 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:15:35 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo
> > >  > > >
> > > said:
> > >
> > > > It works for me.
> > > > Do you still have problems?
> > >
> > > yeah. it's still down. for me. if i ssh into phab and check
> > > access.log - i dont even see my gets in access.log - or
> > > error.log...
> > >
> > > if i go i get redirected to https for phab... and on firefox it
> > > says:
> > >
> > > Secure Connection Failed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   An error occurred during a connection to
> > > phab.enlightenment.org.
> > >
> > > Unable to generate public/private key pair.
> > >
> > > (Error code: sec_error_keygen_fail)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
> > > authenticity of
> > > the received data could not be verified. Please contact the
> > > website owners to
> > > inform them of this problem. Alternatively, use the command found
> > > in the help
> > > menu to report this broken site.
> > >
> > >
> > > on chromium i get:
> > >
> > > This webpage is not available
> > > The webpage at https://phab.enlightenment.org/ might be
> > > temporarily down or it
> > > may have moved permanently to a new web address. Error 2
> > > (net::ERR_FAILED): Unknown error.
> > >
> > > wtf?
> > >
> > > > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Carsten Haitzler
> > > >  > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > wassap? it was up last night... who killzeddz it?

Works for me to.

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Re: [E-devel] Git repository for libefl is live

2013-02-16 Thread Tom Hacohen
Was just about to, but he saved me. :)
On 16 Feb 2013 01:21, "Iván Briano"  wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Leandro Dorileo
>  wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:56:27PM -0200, Leandro Dorileo wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:01:54AM +, Daniel Willmann wrote:
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > everything was migrated to git and should be working now. If you have
> >> > problems, speak now.
> >>
> >>
> >> That`s awesome, nice job Daniel and others.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The new web frontend is here:
> >> > https://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/
> >> > Phabricator:
> >> > https://phab.enlightenment.org/
> >> >
> >> > Mailinglist for commits:
> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-git
> >> >
> >> > Read-only git access:
> >> > git clone git://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git
> >> >
> >> > Read/write for developers:
> >> > git clone ssh://g...@git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Have we already decided about our workflow with git? Are we going to
> have
> >> an integrator or so? Are we - developers - going to have a hosting space
> >> so we can maintain our forks and ask pull requests from?
> >
> >
> > Ok, before someone SPANK!!! SPANK!!! me, I'm reading the previous
> discussion
> > on the topic
> >
> >
>
> SPANK! SPANK! You should have waited for Tasn to repeat it all over again.
>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > If you have uncommitted changes in your svn or git-svn checkout:
> >> >
> >> > Here is how you could do it depending on whether you have pure svn or
> >> > git-svn:
> >> >
> >> > SVN
> >> > ---
> >> > * Update SVN so you are at the current revision:
> >> > $ svn up
> >> > $ svn info trunk/efl/ |grep Revision
> >> > -> Should be revision 83942
> >> >
> >> > * Clone the new repo with git clone
> >> >
> >> > * Find the matching commit in git
> >> > $ git log --grep "SVN revision: 83942"
> >> > -> This will show you commit c5a8a6b5
> >> >
> >> > * Reset your working directory to this commit (in a new branch)
> >> > $ git checkout -b svn-import c5a8a6b5
> >> >
> >> > * Copy your files over from SVN. You can just copy everything (do omit
> >> >   the .svn directories, though) as the repositories will be in the
> same
> >> >   state now.
> >> >
> >> > * Check that the changes make sense - git diff should now provide the
> >> >   same output as svn diff
> >> >
> >> > * Save the changes temporarily
> >> > $ git stash
> >> >
> >> > * Checkout master
> >> > $ git checkout master
> >> >
> >> > * Apply the changes again
> >> > $ git stash pop
> >> >
> >> > * After you're done committing delete the branch
> >> > $ git branch -D svn-import
> >> >
> >> > git-svn
> >> > ---
> >> > * Export all your commits that are not upstream yet
> >> > $ git format-patch git-svn..HEAD
> >> > -> Creates numbered patch files
> >> >
> >> > * Clone the new repository with git clone somewhere
> >> >
> >> > * Apply the patches to the new repository
> >> > $ git am 00*.patch
> >> >
> >> > * For the last command - depending on your checkout - you will
> probably
> >> >   need to add the option -p to adjust the location of the patches.
> >> >   So if you did a checkout of the complete trunk/ you'll need to pass
> >> >   (I think) -p2 to git am.
> >> >
> >> > If you have any problems or patches don't apply cleanly, feel free to
> ask.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Daniel
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: [E-devel] phab down?

2013-02-16 Thread dieter roelants

FWIW, I saw the same "unable to generate" error for the cgit site
yesterday. It works now, as does phab.


On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:38:56 +
Tom Hacohen  wrote:

> Wtf is allI can say. Wfm.
> On 16 Feb 2013 12:57, "Carsten Haitzler"  wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:15:35 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo  > >
> > said:
> >
> > > It works for me.
> > > Do you still have problems?
> >
> > yeah. it's still down. for me. if i ssh into phab and check access.log - i
> > dont even see my gets in access.log - or error.log...
> >
> > if i go i get redirected to https for phab... and on firefox it says:
> >
> > Secure Connection Failed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   An error occurred during a connection to phab.enlightenment.org.
> >
> > Unable to generate public/private key pair.
> >
> > (Error code: sec_error_keygen_fail)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity
> > of
> > the received data could not be verified. Please contact the website owners
> > to
> > inform them of this problem. Alternatively, use the command found in the
> > help
> > menu to report this broken site.
> >
> >
> > on chromium i get:
> >
> > This webpage is not available
> > The webpage at https://phab.enlightenment.org/ might be temporarily down
> > or it
> > may have moved permanently to a new web address. Error 2 (net::ERR_FAILED):
> > Unknown error.
> >
> > wtf?
> >
> > > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Carsten Haitzler  > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > wassap? it was up last night... who killzeddz it?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am"
> > --
> > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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> > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com
> >
> >

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Re: [E-devel] Build issue

2013-02-16 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:31:07 +0100 Davide Andreoli
 wrote:

> 2013/2/16 Leandro Dorileo 
> 
> > Hi!
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 03:58:47PM +0100, Davide Andreoli wrote:
> > > 2013/2/16 Cedric BAIL 
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Our current build system is currently in a bad state and there
> > > > was no improvements in the past week. So here is I think a TODO
> > > > that everyone will agree with.
> > > >
> > > > - siginfo is not a portable API. There was a test and proper
> > > > #if in 1.7, we should bring them back.
> > > > - libmount is not recent enough for eeze 1.8 on debian. There
> > > > was working code in 1.7, we should bring it back.
> > > > - binary executed inside the build tree don't use the just build
> > > > library, but the system one.
> > > > - the profile (UI, server) are not there yet and should be
> > > > added as latest discussion did reach consensus on that topic.
> > > >
> > > > I may have forgotten some issue here, so kindly remind them
> > > > here. At least for the four top one, they will be blocker for
> > > > the 1.8 release and need to be solved. I may go and fix the one
> > > > I can when I have time, but any help will be appreciated.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I suggest also to disable physics by default, as libbulett 2.8 is
> > > only is super recent distro.
> > >
> >
> > I still can't see a use case where ./autogen.sh --disable-physics
> > wont work.
> >
> 
> It works, indeed. But is annoing, why not just disable physics if
> bullet is not found?
> There's no usage of ephysics, thus it seems to me better to leave out

E17 has a standard physics module, also there's efbb, plus I'm using it
my 3D experiment.  That's three I found without even trying.  B-)

Normally I would agree with you about disabling it if bullet is not
found, but Leandro has a valid point.  I'd want more distros to have an
EFL compatible bullet to.

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Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] branch master updated. 04e660c5c76fa9168be08de1f979a1684c464154

2013-02-16 Thread Tom Hacohen
At the moment it's one mail per changeset, that  can be changed if decided
upon.
On 16 Feb 2013 10:41, "David Seikel"  wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:25:53 -0800 Enlightenment Git
>  wrote:
>
> > The branch, master has been updated
> >
> > This change consists of the following commits:
> > 04e660c Paulo C. A. Cavalcanti Jr: evas: Introduce pixel_alpha_get()
> >
> > b6c8972 Cedric BAIL: evas: forgotten update to ChangeLog.
> >
> > 1e916e4 Cedric BAIL: eina: improve Eina_Clist support for 64bits
> > system.
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Re: [E-devel] phab down?

2013-02-16 Thread Tom Hacohen
Wtf is allI can say. Wfm.
On 16 Feb 2013 12:57, "Carsten Haitzler"  wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:15:35 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo  >
> said:
>
> > It works for me.
> > Do you still have problems?
>
> yeah. it's still down. for me. if i ssh into phab and check access.log - i
> dont even see my gets in access.log - or error.log...
>
> if i go i get redirected to https for phab... and on firefox it says:
>
> Secure Connection Failed
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   An error occurred during a connection to phab.enlightenment.org.
>
> Unable to generate public/private key pair.
>
> (Error code: sec_error_keygen_fail)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity
> of
> the received data could not be verified. Please contact the website owners
> to
> inform them of this problem. Alternatively, use the command found in the
> help
> menu to report this broken site.
>
>
> on chromium i get:
>
> This webpage is not available
> The webpage at https://phab.enlightenment.org/ might be temporarily down
> or it
> may have moved permanently to a new web address. Error 2 (net::ERR_FAILED):
> Unknown error.
>
> wtf?
>
> > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Carsten Haitzler  >wrote:
> >
> > > wassap? it was up last night... who killzeddz it?
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Re: [E-devel] Build issue

2013-02-16 Thread Davide Andreoli
2013/2/16 Leandro Dorileo 

> Hi!
>
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 03:58:47PM +0100, Davide Andreoli wrote:
> > 2013/2/16 Cedric BAIL 
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Our current build system is currently in a bad state and there was no
> > > improvements in the past week. So here is I think a TODO that everyone
> > > will agree with.
> > >
> > > - siginfo is not a portable API. There was a test and proper #if in
> > > 1.7, we should bring them back.
> > > - libmount is not recent enough for eeze 1.8 on debian. There was
> > > working code in 1.7, we should bring it back.
> > > - binary executed inside the build tree don't use the just build
> > > library, but the system one.
> > > - the profile (UI, server) are not there yet and should be added as
> > > latest discussion did reach consensus on that topic.
> > >
> > > I may have forgotten some issue here, so kindly remind them here. At
> > > least for the four top one, they will be blocker for the 1.8 release
> > > and need to be solved. I may go and fix the one I can when I have
> > > time, but any help will be appreciated.
> > >
> >
> > I suggest also to disable physics by default, as libbulett 2.8 is only is
> > super recent distro.
> >
>
> I still can't see a use case where ./autogen.sh --disable-physics wont
> work.
>

It works, indeed. But is annoing, why not just disable physics if bullet is
not found?
There's no usage of ephysics, thus it seems to me better to leave out

btw, do as you like, I can live with the --disable-phisics flag :)



>
> For packaging, ephysics can be disabled - but efl users will loose physics
> features
> both by not provided EPhysics API and edje support, if distros have
> problems
> packaging efl with physics support they should keep bullet packages in a
> better
> shape - and we efl developers should impose that, otherwise we'll never
> have
> our libraries in use due a distro packaging situation. Forcing EPhysics to
> be
> disabled by distros will put the library in the limbo for ever, distro
> packages
> users are a very good audience and we must desire that.
>
> In cases where the user wants to install it from source code there's enough
> information to guide the entire process - if it's not true *we* should
> provide
> better informations.
>
> Since we're good guys our README also guide users on how to build bullet
> from
> source code. :)
>
>
> Regards
>
> >
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Re: [E-devel] Build issue

2013-02-16 Thread Leandro Dorileo
Hi!

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 03:58:47PM +0100, Davide Andreoli wrote:
> 2013/2/16 Cedric BAIL 
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > Our current build system is currently in a bad state and there was no
> > improvements in the past week. So here is I think a TODO that everyone
> > will agree with.
> >
> > - siginfo is not a portable API. There was a test and proper #if in
> > 1.7, we should bring them back.
> > - libmount is not recent enough for eeze 1.8 on debian. There was
> > working code in 1.7, we should bring it back.
> > - binary executed inside the build tree don't use the just build
> > library, but the system one.
> > - the profile (UI, server) are not there yet and should be added as
> > latest discussion did reach consensus on that topic.
> >
> > I may have forgotten some issue here, so kindly remind them here. At
> > least for the four top one, they will be blocker for the 1.8 release
> > and need to be solved. I may go and fix the one I can when I have
> > time, but any help will be appreciated.
> >
> 
> I suggest also to disable physics by default, as libbulett 2.8 is only is
> super recent distro.
> 

I still can't see a use case where ./autogen.sh --disable-physics wont work.

For packaging, ephysics can be disabled - but efl users will loose physics 
features
both by not provided EPhysics API and edje support, if distros have problems
packaging efl with physics support they should keep bullet packages in a better
shape - and we efl developers should impose that, otherwise we'll never have
our libraries in use due a distro packaging situation. Forcing EPhysics to be
disabled by distros will put the library in the limbo for ever, distro packages
users are a very good audience and we must desire that.

In cases where the user wants to install it from source code there's enough
information to guide the entire process - if it's not true *we* should provide
better informations.

Since we're good guys our README also guide users on how to build bullet from
source code. :)


Regards

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Re: [E-devel] Build issue

2013-02-16 Thread Davide Andreoli
2013/2/16 Cedric BAIL 

> Hello,
>
> Our current build system is currently in a bad state and there was no
> improvements in the past week. So here is I think a TODO that everyone
> will agree with.
>
> - siginfo is not a portable API. There was a test and proper #if in
> 1.7, we should bring them back.
> - libmount is not recent enough for eeze 1.8 on debian. There was
> working code in 1.7, we should bring it back.
> - binary executed inside the build tree don't use the just build
> library, but the system one.
> - the profile (UI, server) are not there yet and should be added as
> latest discussion did reach consensus on that topic.
>
> I may have forgotten some issue here, so kindly remind them here. At
> least for the four top one, they will be blocker for the 1.8 release
> and need to be solved. I may go and fix the one I can when I have
> time, but any help will be appreciated.
>

I suggest also to disable physics by default, as libbulett 2.8 is only is
super recent distro.


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Re: [E-devel] here is the new-UI for E17 if you want to Adopting

2013-02-16 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 21:52:40 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
 wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:46:12 +1000 David Seikel 
> said:
> 
> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:49:32 -0500 Jose Gonzalez 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > David Seikel wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:43:08 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The
> > > > Rasterman)  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   
> > > >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:34 +0300 المسالم المسالمة
> > > >>  said:
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > > >>> and i am now releasing it under GPL license
> > > >>>   
> > > >> ummm... this looks exactly like what we already have... but
> > > >> simply adding efm icons into the shelf too... which is
> > > >> trivial. and now it misses other gagdets (start, pager,
> > > >> connman etc.)... where do those go?
> > > >>
> > > >> unless u mean.. let's just copy osx? which is what this smells
> > > >> like it was really intended to be.. lets have an osx dock
> > > >> EXACTLY.. (but add a clock)... is that what his is meant to be?
> > > >> 
> > > >
> > > > Um, so it's like engage, but with a cock?  Er I meant clock.
> > > >
> > > >   
> > > 
> > > We must concede that it's certainly pushing the bleeding edge
> > > of user interfaces to put a cock on the desktop. Perhaps it
> > > should be called a glandule rather than a mere module?
> > > Sure beats any of those DesktopX and Rainmeter desktop skins.
> > 
> > lol
> > 
> > /me fails to make jokes about beating things with cocks.
> > 
> > 
> > This person is not so good at expressing themselves in English, and
> > there are some other ideas in the animated GIF they posted other
> > than a dock with a clock.  Some of them might be good ideas to.
> > 
> > Apologies to  المسالم المسالمة, the word "cock" on your
> > presentation is obviously a typo, since you used "clock" correctly
> > in other places. The word "cock" in English is a rude word for
> > "penis".
> 
> what? eh? it is? i was thinking male chicken! you have a dirty dirty
> dirty mind if thats the first thing you thought of! :)

Well, considering Jose suggested calling it a glandule, I'm not the
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[E-devel] Build issue

2013-02-16 Thread Cedric BAIL
Hello,

Our current build system is currently in a bad state and there was no
improvements in the past week. So here is I think a TODO that everyone
will agree with.

- siginfo is not a portable API. There was a test and proper #if in
1.7, we should bring them back.
- libmount is not recent enough for eeze 1.8 on debian. There was
working code in 1.7, we should bring it back.
- binary executed inside the build tree don't use the just build
library, but the system one.
- the profile (UI, server) are not there yet and should be added as
latest discussion did reach consensus on that topic.

I may have forgotten some issue here, so kindly remind them here. At
least for the four top one, they will be blocker for the 1.8 release
and need to be solved. I may go and fix the one I can when I have
time, but any help will be appreciated.

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Re: [E-devel] phab down?

2013-02-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:15:35 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo 
said:

> It works for me.
> Do you still have problems?

yeah. it's still down. for me. if i ssh into phab and check access.log - i
dont even see my gets in access.log - or error.log...

if i go i get redirected to https for phab... and on firefox it says:

Secure Connection Failed
  
  
  
  
  


  An error occurred during a connection to phab.enlightenment.org.

Unable to generate public/private key pair.

(Error code: sec_error_keygen_fail)






  The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of
the received data could not be verified. Please contact the website owners to
inform them of this problem. Alternatively, use the command found in the help
menu to report this broken site.


on chromium i get:

This webpage is not available
The webpage at https://phab.enlightenment.org/ might be temporarily down or it
may have moved permanently to a new web address. Error 2 (net::ERR_FAILED):
Unknown error.

wtf?

> Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> 
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> 
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Re: [E-devel] here is the new-UI for E17 if you want to Adopting

2013-02-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:46:12 +1000 David Seikel  said:

> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:49:32 -0500 Jose Gonzalez 
> wrote:
> 
> > David Seikel wrote:
> > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:43:08 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >   
> > >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:34 +0300 المسالم المسالمة
> > >>  said:
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >>> and i am now releasing it under GPL license
> > >>>   
> > >> ummm... this looks exactly like what we already have... but simply
> > >> adding efm icons into the shelf too... which is trivial. and now it
> > >> misses other gagdets (start, pager, connman etc.)... where do those
> > >> go?
> > >>
> > >> unless u mean.. let's just copy osx? which is what this smells like
> > >> it was really intended to be.. lets have an osx dock EXACTLY.. (but
> > >> add a clock)... is that what his is meant to be?
> > >> 
> > >
> > > Um, so it's like engage, but with a cock?  Er I meant clock.
> > >
> > >   
> > 
> > We must concede that it's certainly pushing the bleeding edge
> > of user interfaces to put a cock on the desktop. Perhaps it should be
> > called a glandule rather than a mere module?
> > Sure beats any of those DesktopX and Rainmeter desktop skins.
> 
> lol
> 
> /me fails to make jokes about beating things with cocks.
> 
> 
> This person is not so good at expressing themselves in English, and
> there are some other ideas in the animated GIF they posted other than a
> dock with a clock.  Some of them might be good ideas to.
> 
> Apologies to  المسالم المسالمة, the word "cock" on your presentation is
> obviously a typo, since you used "clock" correctly in other places.
> The word "cock" in English is a rude word for "penis".

what? eh? it is? i was thinking male chicken! you have a dirty dirty dirty mind
if thats the first thing you thought of! :)

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Re: [E-devel] E SVN: seoz trunk/efl

2013-02-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:12:06 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo 
said:

> Weird.
> SVN e/trunk/efl is unlocked.
> Raster, Daniel Willman, and Tom Hacohen, can you please check this?

the FILES are locked. svn can't lock dirs. just files.

> Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> 
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Enlightenment SVN <
> no-re...@enlightenment.org> wrote:
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> > Log:
> > revert test commit. SVN e/trunk/efl is not locked?
> >
> > Author:   seoz
> > Date: 2013-02-15 22:10:41 -0800 (Fri, 15 Feb 2013)
> > New Revision: 83971
> > Trac: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/83971
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> > Removed:
> >   trunk/efl/a
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[E-devel] elementary test box is broken.

2013-02-16 Thread ChunEon Park
just info. somebody fix it please.

elementary_test -> box -> box horiz, box vert.


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Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] branch master updated. 04e660c5c76fa9168be08de1f979a1684c464154

2013-02-16 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:44:17 +0100 Cedric BAIL 
wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM, David Seikel 
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:25:53 -0800 Enlightenment Git
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> The branch, master has been updated
> >>
> >> This change consists of the following commits:
> >> 04e660c Paulo C. A. Cavalcanti Jr: evas: Introduce
> >> pixel_alpha_get()
> >>
> >> b6c8972 Cedric BAIL: evas: forgotten update to ChangeLog.
> >>
> >> 1e916e4 Cedric BAIL: eina: improve Eina_Clist support for 64bits
> >> system.
> >
> > Two unrelated commits from two authors in one email?  And in an
> > apparently random time order as well.
> 
> Indeed that's a bit weird and unexpected. I did multiple commit and
> only one push. That's the result. I think it should be broken into
> multiple mails in my opinion.

I agree.  If the first one is a huge commit, then it might be hard to
review the rest.

Including Paulo's commit in that email was just wrong, so bug somewhere?

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment-devel Digest, Vol 82, Issue 78

2013-02-16 Thread المسالم المسالمة
> lol
>
> /me fails to make jokes about beating things with cocks.
>
>
> This person is not so good at expressing themselves in English, and
> there are some other ideas in the animated GIF they posted other than a
> dock with a clock.  Some of them might be good ideas to.
>
> Apologies to  ??? , the word "cock" on your presentation is
> obviously a typo, since you used "clock" correctly in other places.
> The word "cock" in English is a rude word for "penis".
>
> ===

i already know that word and other one with D is a rude things to speak to
people

and your Apologies accepted

===

>
> Indeed, and therein lies the whole point of the shell-theming notion
> as Cedric and I have pointed out, and as the DesktopX and Rainmeter
> examples abundantly show.
> There are lots of creative and talented designers out there, and just
> normal users who can create interesting environments out of basic
> components (and with e17 module jscripting lots more becomes easier
> for people to do), but they lack a way to share these creations.
> If any Linux desktop/mobile/whatnot project should innovate in this
> direction it ought to be E. It's been far too restrictive,
> un-necessarily so,
> for much too long now.
>
>
> > Apologies to  ??? , the word "cock" on your presentation is
> > obviously a typo, since you used "clock" correctly in other places.
> > The word "cock" in English is a rude word for "penis".
> >
> >
>
> 

will i am glad to hear that there still some people who respects other

and your Apologies accepted

 


We make fun of each other all the time, it's just the culture we have.
> You can feel free to make fun of us to, while we have a serious
> discussion.  That second one from me that you quoted above is serious
> discussion.  I wanted to know about this rosa linux you mentioned,
> since you mentioned it a couple of times, to refer to it, but I have
> never heard of it.  So please let us know where we might find
> information about rosa linux, so that we can understand "like rosa
> linux" parts you mentioned.
>

=

no need for that

you will know that  if you see the last three picture in that GIF file
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Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] branch master updated. 04e660c5c76fa9168be08de1f979a1684c464154

2013-02-16 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM, David Seikel  wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:25:53 -0800 Enlightenment Git
>  wrote:
>
>> The branch, master has been updated
>>
>> This change consists of the following commits:
>> 04e660c Paulo C. A. Cavalcanti Jr: evas: Introduce pixel_alpha_get()
>>
>> b6c8972 Cedric BAIL: evas: forgotten update to ChangeLog.
>>
>> 1e916e4 Cedric BAIL: eina: improve Eina_Clist support for 64bits
>> system.
>
> Two unrelated commits from two authors in one email?  And in an
> apparently random time order as well.

Indeed that's a bit weird and unexpected. I did multiple commit and
only one push. That's the result. I think it should be broken into
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Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] branch master updated. 04e660c5c76fa9168be08de1f979a1684c464154

2013-02-16 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:25:53 -0800 Enlightenment Git
 wrote:

> The branch, master has been updated
> 
> This change consists of the following commits:
> 04e660c Paulo C. A. Cavalcanti Jr: evas: Introduce pixel_alpha_get()
> 
> b6c8972 Cedric BAIL: evas: forgotten update to ChangeLog.
> 
> 1e916e4 Cedric BAIL: eina: improve Eina_Clist support for 64bits
> system.

Two unrelated commits from two authors in one email?  And in an
apparently random time order as well.

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Re: [E-devel] [EFL/Elementary PATCH] Use eina_file_stat_ls() when listing profiles

2013-02-16 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Paulo C. A. Cavalcanti Jr
 wrote:
> _elm_config_profiles_list() function checks for file types, so this
> patch replaces eina_file_direct_ls() with eina_file_stat_ls() to make it
> working on filesystems that do not support d_type in direct structure.

This one sounds good to me. In svn.
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Re: [E-devel] [EFL/Eio PATCH] Use eina_file_stat_ls() on monitor poll

2013-02-16 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Paulo C. A. Cavalcanti Jr
 wrote:
> There is a function that checks for file type on monitor poll, so this
> patch uses eina_file_stat_ls() instead of eina_file_direct_ls() for that
> case.

This patch seems wrong to me. We do call eina_file_statat later on, so
a full proper stat is done, this retrieve all information and update
info properly. Forcing a stat for the ls seems unecessary to me here.
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Re: [E-devel] [EFL/Evas PATCH] Introduce pixel_alpha_get() on engines

2013-02-16 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Paulo C. A. Cavalcanti Jr
 wrote:
> pca...@zytor.com (Paulo C. A. Cavalcanti Jr) writes:
>> Just follow a patch that fixes a bug with
>> evas_object_precise_is_inside_set() users on OpenGL backend.
>>
>> The _pixel_alpha_get() function used in evas_object_image_is_inside()
>> relies on engine_data pointer being *always* an RGBA_Image * - but
>> that's not true on OpenGL backend, since that pointer will be a
>> Evas_GL_Image * instead. Given that, evas_object_image_is_inside() won't
>> be able to get alpha from the pixels of the image being handled.
>>
>> The patch introduces a pixel_alpha_get() function on engines, and it has
>> been implemented for Software and OpenGL backend so far.
>>
>> Besides, please consider backporting this patch to Evas 1.7.x as well.
>
> Just updated the patch with an unused "if" that got removed.

Good for me, will be in svn^Wgit soon.
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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment-devel Digest, Vol 82, Issue 77

2013-02-16 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:31:45 +0300 المسالم المسالمة
 wrote:

> > Um, so it's like engage, but with a cock?  Er I meant clock.
> >
> > ==
> 
> 
> > Ah yes, more than just engage then.  Is there an URL to this rosa
> > linux you mention?
> >
> > ==
> >
> 
> 
> > We must concede that it's certainly pushing the bleeding edge
> > of user interfaces to put a cock on the desktop. Perhaps it should
> > be called a glandule rather than a mere module?
> > Sure beats any of those DesktopX and Rainmeter desktop skins.
> >
> ==
> 
> yah ... keep it like that . make fun of other peoples
> 
> from their speed writing mistakes
> 
> by the way . are we in gabrial iglesias  standup revolution
> 
> or ... enlightinment serious discussion
> 
> so  please be serious

We make fun of each other all the time, it's just the culture we have.
You can feel free to make fun of us to, while we have a serious
discussion.  That second one from me that you quoted above is serious
discussion.  I wanted to know about this rosa linux you mentioned,
since you mentioned it a couple of times, to refer to it, but I have
never heard of it.  So please let us know where we might find
information about rosa linux, so that we can understand "like rosa
linux" parts you mentioned.

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org (the site)

2013-02-16 Thread Nathan Baxter
On 16/02/2013 06:24, David Seikel wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:50:22 + Nathan Baxter
>  wrote:
>
>> On 14/02/2013 18:51, Steven Le Roux wrote:
>>> There is
>>>
>>> @enlightenmentfr
>>> @edevel
>>>
>>> But the wall feed can just look for (#efl, #evas, #ecore, #e17,
>>> #e18,...) hashtags. It's more useful to show the life of the
>>> project, libs, etc...
>> Good call!
>>
>>> Maybe you could replace xml by Yaml ?which is more readable (even
>>> if, ok this template is clear...).
>> I'll look into yaml and check back with you on that.
>>
>>>I agree too on the fact we don't need a CMS
>>> with database etc. We will maybe have to add some simple feature to
>>> this template like blockquotes, etc...
>> Agreed! :)
>>
>>>I have to check the existing template
>>> engine, but maybe just a tag in  could match a CSS entry
>>> to make it blockquoted. Or just write html inside 
>>> tags... don't know yet... what do you think ?
>> The current page generator needs a lot of work on the output front.
>> This is why I want to build the image files first. That'll give me
>> the starting point for what needs to be added. Tables are bad and
>> should never, ever and not even then be used for layout.
> I've said it before, and I'll say it again, there is nothing actually
> WRONG with HTML tables except for prejudice against them.  And sometimes
> a simple table is actually needed for layout coz otherwise it just gets
> too complex and fails when trying to avoid tables.  For everything you
> can show where non table use is better, I can show you multiple browsers
> where tables will be the only thing that works.

Tables don't work when you need sections to break apart, if an entire 
site is based on a tabled layout it simply won't work on a mobile device 
as it'll keep the original layout when the layout needs to change. 
There's far too many things you have to do to tables to get things to 
look correct like adding more tables within tables and divs within tds 
to fix padding and alignment issues.

>
> Reminds me of the people that said "Goto is bad and should never, ever
> and not even then be used.".  EFL code is full of goto's, I don't use
> them myself, but prefer nested if's.  Though apparently nested if's is
> really really bad, and some people have replaced my nested if's with
> goto's just coz.  You can't win, one or the other has to be used, but
> one or the other group thinks the other is really really bad.  I don't
> think goto's are bad, I just tend to not use them much, unless doing
> assembly, where they are pretty much mandatory.
>
> Recently it seems that the other sort of software table, the
> spreadsheet, or two dimensional array of cells, has gone out of favour
> and is starting to be called bad things.  People invent all sorts of
> crazy things, and even call them fancy names to pretend they are not
> really tables, coz "table" is just old fashioned, really bad, and never
> ever needed any more.  Guess what?  Tables are sometimes the PERFECT
> thing you need.  Avoiding them out of fashion makes no sense.

There's nothing better than using a table to display data, that's what 
they do better than anything.

>
> It's really all about personal style, there's nothing actually wrong
> with any of these things.  So saying that they are bad is just wrong.
> Saying something is bad just coz it's not fashionable is completely
> wrong.

It's not for the sake of being cool. Tables are great for data, but 
absolutely no good for page layout, they are too constrictive.

> On the other hand, you are doing this work, not me, so you can apply
> your own rules of coding style.  Just don't say something is bad simply
> coz you don't like them personally, or coz it's fashionable to say so.
> Remember, it was fashionable to bag goto's once as being really really
> bad, but compilers reduce all the fancy ways of not using goto's to
> goto's anyway.  shrugs
>
>

Again, I'm really not down on tables because I think that's what the 
President wants, there are far better ways to create decent layouts 
without them, it's the reliance on tables that most people are down on. 
They have their place, layout is not that place.

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment-devel Digest, Vol 82, Issue 77

2013-02-16 Thread المسالم المسالمة
> Um, so it's like engage, but with a cock?  Er I meant clock.
>
> ==


> Ah yes, more than just engage then.  Is there an URL to this rosa linux
> you mention?
>
> ==
>


> We must concede that it's certainly pushing the bleeding edge
> of user interfaces to put a cock on the desktop. Perhaps it should be
> called a glandule rather than a mere module?
> Sure beats any of those DesktopX and Rainmeter desktop skins.
>
==

yah ... keep it like that . make fun of other peoples

from their speed writing mistakes

by the way . are we in gabrial iglesias  standup revolution

or ... enlightinment serious discussion

so  please be serious
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Re: [E-devel] here is the new-UI for E17 if you want to Adopting

2013-02-16 Thread Jose Gonzalez
David Seikel wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 02:49:32 -0500 Jose Gonzalez 
> wrote:
>
>   
>> David Seikel wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:43:08 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:03:34 +0300 المسالم المسالمة
  said:

 
 
> and i am now releasing it under GPL license
>   
>   
 ummm... this looks exactly like what we already have... but simply
 adding efm icons into the shelf too... which is trivial. and now it
 misses other gagdets (start, pager, connman etc.)... where do those
 go?

 unless u mean.. let's just copy osx? which is what this smells like
 it was really intended to be.. lets have an osx dock EXACTLY.. (but
 add a clock)... is that what his is meant to be?
 
 
>>> Um, so it's like engage, but with a cock?  Er I meant clock.
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> We must concede that it's certainly pushing the bleeding edge
>> of user interfaces to put a cock on the desktop. Perhaps it should be
>> called a glandule rather than a mere module?
>> Sure beats any of those DesktopX and Rainmeter desktop skins.
>> 
>
> lol
>
> /me fails to make jokes about beating things with cocks.
>
>
> This person is not so good at expressing themselves in English, and
> there are some other ideas in the animated GIF they posted other than a
> dock with a clock.  Some of them might be good ideas to.
>   

Indeed, and therein lies the whole point of the shell-theming notion
as Cedric and I have pointed out, and as the DesktopX and Rainmeter
examples abundantly show.
There are lots of creative and talented designers out there, and just
normal users who can create interesting environments out of basic
components (and with e17 module jscripting lots more becomes easier
for people to do), but they lack a way to share these creations.
If any Linux desktop/mobile/whatnot project should innovate in this
direction it ought to be E. It's been far too restrictive, 
un-necessarily so,
for much too long now.


> Apologies to  المسالم المسالمة, the word "cock" on your presentation is
> obviously a typo, since you used "clock" correctly in other places.
> The word "cock" in English is a rude word for "penis".
>
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