Re: [E-devel] Gitlab

2018-09-07 Thread Simon Lees
On 07/09/2018 01:36, Christopher Michael wrote:
> Having never used GitLab before, I cannot really form an opinion here.
> Yea, I took a few minutes to check out the link that was sent to the
> read-only instance, however that is not really enough to make any kind
> of informed decision as I am unable to "kick the tires" on it (as in,
> try it out in a real world scenario).
> 
> dh
> 

I'm pretty sure gitlab is allowing you to host open source projects on
there public instance, so if you want to kick the tires of it i'm pretty
sure you can make an account and create a couple of repos to play with
there.

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Re: [E-devel] Expose and Desksanity

2018-09-07 Thread Simon Lees


On 06/09/2018 23:35, Stephen Houston wrote:
> Desksanity has tons of great features.  The question is - What
> gadgets/modules are essential enough for Enlightenment to include them and
> gadgets/modules should remain outside of Enlightenment as extras as to not
> bloat the tree.  Obviously packagers can package desksanity with
> Enlightenment so people installing from packages won't know the difference
> - It's really a question from our dev standpoint.
> 

My opinion on this is anyone who has a module that is of acceptable
standard both not full of bugs / causing e to crash, and is coded
soundly (Meets coding standards / same kind of code review for any part
of the e code base). Should be able to submit there module into e,
whether that module is enabled by default is another question but having
installed but not loaded modules hardly adds bloat. Modules are also
significantly easier to maintain when in tree. This combined with the
perception from the e17 days that in tree modules were supported
upstream while out of tree modules were not makes it clear to me that we
should generally try to allow them.


> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 7:46 AM Al Poole  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just wanted to talk about the desksanity module that zmike wrote.
>>
>> I've been using this module for a month now, for me personally the
>> expose-like feature is most useful. I have this event  bound to
>> Super+ESC or top left corner (as GNOME does).
>>
>> I really believe that this functionality should be in E itself.
>>
>> I just wanted to encourage some conversation on the topic, and also
>> suggest that if you haven't tried using this module, to try using it.
>>
>> Here is the URL for the module:
>>
>> https://git.enlightenment.org/enlightenment/modules/desksanity.git/
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alastair (netstar)
>>
>>
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Re: [E-devel] Gitlab

2018-09-07 Thread Danny Hirt

+1 for Gitlab.

I have been back and forth on this thread, and couldn't pinpoint where I 
should comment. So I comment on OP.


It felt to me that using Phabricator had become quite a burden, and 
while git-phab tries to bridge to methodologies like reviewing whole 
branches, Gitlab offers it out of the box in the form of "merge 
requests" (much like Github's "pull requests").


The above pretty much states the obvious for most of the folks involved 
in this thread, but I wanted to lay out my reason to use Gitlab.


Admittedly, I myself got a bit lost on the thread, so I couldn't really 
determine if there is an agreement that we NEED Gitlab.


So, let's have a Slowvote?

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On 8/10/18 9:09 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:

Hello,

For some time now, everyone in the community has been expressing
significant dissatisfaction with the current project management software,
Phabricator. A number of individuals have proposed switching to Gitlab for
various reasons.

Some will recall that recently all of the FDO infrastructure migrated from
Phabricator to Gitlab thanks in large part to an incredible, hand-crafted
migration script authored by notable open source figure Daniel Stone. While
this script was not exactly what could be used to migrate our own
infrastructure, it gave me an idea.

Thanks to a low-pay intern who just graduated and whose name I don't
recall, work began to modify the original FDO migration script and update
it to handle various features exclusive to our usage of Phabricator. Thanks
to generous hosting provided by the basement of the intern's parents, I was
able to review the work as it progressed to see if it would be worth
showing to the community.

Weeks have passed, and now, thanks to many sleepless nights and long
weekends that this devoted intern spent doing devops work, I was able to
provide justification for more robust hosting and acquire a cloud service
to host an official proof-of-concept for a Gitlab migration:

https://gitlab-prototype.s-opensource.org/

Some notes:
* This is read-only for now
* User creation is disabled, don't bother trying
* Issues with their comments have been imported
* Patch submissions have been imported (the intern screwed up some of the
early imports so there are a few patches without the diff inlined)
   - Comments on patch submissions cannot be imported because Phabricator
has no API for retrieving comments on patch review
* Wiki pages are not imported since some decision-making is required

As is easily noticeable, not all projects have been imported by my intern.
Importing the repo takes some time on its own, and then running the
migration script takes a variable amount of time on top of that depending
on the size of the project (EFL was estimated to take 10+ hours to fully
import).

Wiki pages have not been imported. On Gitlab, a wiki is project-specific
and so it is impossible to do a 1:1 copy unless we decided to stick
everything onto a specific project. We would have to decide how we want to
do this.

If we decided to switch to Gitlab, there would be a number of questions
that need to be answered:
Q: How do we migrate?
A: Gitlab cannot accurately mirror all of Phabricator, it can only do a
one-time migration of projects. This means we would at some point lock phab
and then begin migrating, likely over a weekend for the major projects with
the remainders being added later.

Q: What happens to phab?
A: We would likely want to keep phab in read-only mode for a while after
the migration since all the migrated tickets/patches will provide links to
it. We can later evaluate if we need to keep it running.

Q: Where would this be hosted?
A: The provided link here is a cloud service which will be funded for the
foreseeable future. At present I am very strongly opposed to hosting this
anywhere on the existing EFL infrastructure since it has been impossible
for anyone to get access to any part of the server or to have tasks
reliably handled in anything but a random and notification-less manner. A
community project cannot have infrastructure which is unable to be
accessed, managed, or maintained by the community which is using it.

Regards,
Mike
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