Re: [E-devel] Can I use enlightenment on the kernel 4.11?

[Florian Schaefer]

On 12.05.2017 18:26, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Fri, 12 May 2017 10:58:48 +0200 PaulTT  said:
> 
>> obviously, i compile it ;)
>> packaged ones are full of crap, and even so, i need a couple of patches for
>> my setup
>> and then, i can also choose when upgrade or not...
> 
> oh interesting. we're 2 for 2 on "4.11 kernel + sudo doesnt work in e and
> below" for people who hand compile their own kernels...
> 
> is there an option where the packaged kernels ensure things work? or a patch?
> or...
> 
> at least so far in our massive sample size of 2... both compile their own
> kernels... :)

That is very interesting indeed. Therefore I asked for people to raise
hands that are using (packaged) 4.11 kernels without trouble. Till now I
have not yet actually seen this confirmation here.

Cheers,
Florian

>> my 3 ¢ ;P
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Al Poole  wrote:
>>
>>> Are you compiling your own kernels???
>>>
>>> If so, maybe you could talk to someone that packages up kernels for ideas?
>>>
>>> Personally, I wouldn't advise building any kernel from source unless you're
>>> testing new features or building one for an embedded system...two pence for
>>> you!
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Florian Schaefer 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11.05.2017 12:33, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 10 May 2017 09:48:19 +0200 PaulTT  said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> i just posted a message about this... (sorry, i've seen now this
>>> thread)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as i said there, there's also a problem with unlocking (so, pam
>>>> related, i
>>>>>> assume ?)
>>>>>> via console su and sudo worked like a charm (i've got error messages
>>>> about
>>>>>> cpufreq and backlight too)
>>>>>
>>>>> pam would be executing a setuid root binary to do the password check...
>>>> so it's
>>>>> the same issue. something has decided that e and app processes below it
>>>> in the
>>>>> process tree "cant run setuid (root) binaries" and has disabled that
>>>> feature.
>>>>> that feature seems to only kick in with 4.11 kernel. it certainly is
>>> not
>>>> e
>>>>> doing this. it has relied on this working for many years. it's
>>> something
>>>> new
>>>>> security-wise that is being enabled by a new kernel.
>>>>>
>>>>> maybe some parent process is using setpriv? CAP_SETUID  disabled? man
>>>>> capabilities ... for info ... maybe run captest ?
>>>>> e
>>>>> 12:20PM ~ > captest
>>>>> User  credentials uid:1000 euid:1000 suid:1000
>>>>> Group credentials gid:1000 egid:1000 sgid:1000
>>>>> Current capabilities: none
>>>>> securebits flags: none
>>>>> Attempting direct access to shadow...FAILED (Permission denied)
>>>>> Attempting to access shadow by child process...FAILED
>>>>> Child User  credentials uid:1000 euid:1000 suid:1000
>>>>> Child Group credentials gid:1000 egid:1000 sgid:1000
>>>>> Child capabilities: none
>>>>> Child securebits flags: none
>>>>>
>>>>> is what i get. which is normal.
>>>>
>>>> I get the same as you on my system here:
>>>>
>>>> florian@washu:~ # uname -a
>>>> Linux washu 4.11.0 #2 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 2 12:12:51 JST 2017 i686
>>>> GNU/Linux
>>>> florian@washu:~ # captest
>>>> User  credentials uid:500 euid:500 suid:500
>>>> Group credentials gid:100 egid:100 sgid:100
>>>> Current capabilities: none
>>>> securebits flags: none
>>>> Attempting direct access to shadow...FAILED (Permission denied)
>>>> Attempting to access shadow by child process...FAILED
>>>> Child User  credentials uid:500 euid:500 suid:500
>>>> Child Group credentials gid:100 egid:100 sgid:100
>>>> Child capabilities: none
>>>> Child securebits flags: none
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Florian
>>>>
>>>>>> could the problem be related to some new sh**y systemd operation
>>>>>> i saw that also using wayland, i coulnd't access halt/reboot/suspend
>>>> menu
>>&g

Re: [E-devel] Can I use enlightenment on the kernel 4.11?

[Florian Schaefer]

On 12.05.2017 18:28, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Fri, 12 May 2017 10:41:30 +0900 Florian Schaefer  said:
> 
>> On 11.05.2017 22:12, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 May 2017 21:07:20 +0900 Florian Schaefer 
>>> said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11.05.2017 12:33, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 10 May 2017 09:48:19 +0200 PaulTT  said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> i just posted a message about this... (sorry, i've seen now this thread)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as i said there, there's also a problem with unlocking (so, pam related,
>>>>>> i assume ?)
>>>>>> via console su and sudo worked like a charm (i've got error messages
>>>>>> about cpufreq and backlight too)
>>>>>
>>>>> pam would be executing a setuid root binary to do the password check... so
>>>>> it's the same issue. something has decided that e and app processes below
>>>>> it in the process tree "cant run setuid (root) binaries" and has disabled
>>>>> that feature. that feature seems to only kick in with 4.11 kernel. it
>>>>> certainly is not e doing this. it has relied on this working for many
>>>>> years. it's something new security-wise that is being enabled by a new
>>>>> kernel.
>>>>>
>>>>> maybe some parent process is using setpriv? CAP_SETUID  disabled? man
>>>>> capabilities ... for info ... maybe run captest ?
>>>>> e
>>>>> 12:20PM ~ > captest
>>>>> User  credentials uid:1000 euid:1000 suid:1000
>>>>> Group credentials gid:1000 egid:1000 sgid:1000
>>>>> Current capabilities: none
>>>>> securebits flags: none
>>>>> Attempting direct access to shadow...FAILED (Permission denied)
>>>>> Attempting to access shadow by child process...FAILED
>>>>> Child User  credentials uid:1000 euid:1000 suid:1000
>>>>> Child Group credentials gid:1000 egid:1000 sgid:1000
>>>>> Child capabilities: none
>>>>> Child securebits flags: none
>>>>>
>>>>> is what i get. which is normal.
>>>>
>>>> I get the same as you on my system here:
>>>>
>>>> florian@washu:~ # uname -a
>>>> Linux washu 4.11.0 #2 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 2 12:12:51 JST 2017 i686
>>>> GNU/Linux florian@washu:~ # captest
>>>> User  credentials uid:500 euid:500 suid:500
>>>> Group credentials gid:100 egid:100 sgid:100
>>>> Current capabilities: none
>>>> securebits flags: none
>>>> Attempting direct access to shadow...FAILED (Permission denied)
>>>> Attempting to access shadow by child process...FAILED
>>>> Child User  credentials uid:500 euid:500 suid:500
>>>> Child Group credentials gid:100 egid:100 sgid:100
>>>> Child capabilities: none
>>>> Child securebits flags: none
>>>
>>> try capsh --print
>>> ?
>>> Current: =
>>> Bounding set
>>> =cap_chown,cap_dac_override,cap_dac_read_search,cap_fowner,cap_fsetid,cap_kill,cap_setgid,cap_setuid,cap_setpcap,cap_linux_immutable,cap_net_bind_service,cap_net_broadcast,cap_net_admin,cap_net_raw,cap_ipc_lock,cap_ipc_owner,cap_sys_module,cap_sys_rawio,cap_sys_chroot,cap_sys_ptrace,cap_sys_pacct,cap_sys_admin,cap_sys_boot,cap_sys_nice,cap_sys_resource,cap_sys_time,cap_sys_tty_config,cap_mknod,cap_lease,cap_audit_write,cap_audit_control,cap_setfcap,cap_mac_override,cap_mac_admin,cap_syslog,cap_wake_alarm,cap_block_suspend,cap_audit_read
>>> Securebits: 00/0x0/1'b0 secure-noroot: no (unlocked)
>>>  secure-no-suid-fixup: no (unlocked)
>>>  secure-keep-caps: no (unlocked)
>>> uid=1000(raster)
>>> gid=1000(raster)
>>> groups=5(tty),6(disk),7(lp),10(wheel),50(games),78(kvm),90(network),91
>>> (video),92 (audio),93(optical),94(floppy),95(storage),96(scanner),98
>>> (power),100(users),492 (oprofile),1000(raster)
>>
>> Oh, that's a nice command. :-)
>>
>> florian@washu:~ # /sbin/capsh --print
>> Current: =
>> Bounding set
>> =cap_chown,cap_dac_override,cap_dac_read_search,cap_fowner,cap_fsetid,cap_kill,cap_setgid,cap_setuid,cap_setpcap,cap_linux_immutable,cap_net_bind_service,cap_net_broadcast,cap_net_admin,cap_net_raw,cap_ipc_lock,cap_ipc_owner,cap_sys_module,cap_sys_rawio,cap_sys_chroot,cap_sys_ptrace,cap_sys_pacct,cap_sys_admin,cap_sys_boot,cap_sys_nice,cap_sys_resource,cap_sys_ti

Re: [E-devel] Can I use enlightenment on the kernel 4.11?

[Florian Schaefer]

Hi Al!

On 11.05.2017 21:16, Al Poole wrote:
> Are you compiling your own kernels???

Yep, been doing so for the last 18 years. Force of habit I guess as I
don't want stuff in my kernel that won't be used on my system anyway. :-)

> If so, maybe you could talk to someone that packages up kernels for ideas?
> 
> Personally, I wouldn't advise building any kernel from source unless you're
> testing new features or building one for an embedded system...two pence for
> you!

Thanks for the advice. Would be interesting to get feedback from other
users here that are running packaged 4.11 kernels provided by Debian and
such. Then I might start comparing .config files.

Cheers,
Florian

> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Florian Schaefer  wrote:
> 
>>
>> On 11.05.2017 12:33, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 May 2017 09:48:19 +0200 PaulTT  said:
>>>
>>>> i just posted a message about this... (sorry, i've seen now this thread)
>>>>
>>>> as i said there, there's also a problem with unlocking (so, pam
>> related, i
>>>> assume ?)
>>>> via console su and sudo worked like a charm (i've got error messages
>> about
>>>> cpufreq and backlight too)
>>>
>>> pam would be executing a setuid root binary to do the password check...
>> so it's
>>> the same issue. something has decided that e and app processes below it
>> in the
>>> process tree "cant run setuid (root) binaries" and has disabled that
>> feature.
>>> that feature seems to only kick in with 4.11 kernel. it certainly is not
>> e
>>> doing this. it has relied on this working for many years. it's something
>> new
>>> security-wise that is being enabled by a new kernel.
>>>
>>> maybe some parent process is using setpriv? CAP_SETUID  disabled? man
>>> capabilities ... for info ... maybe run captest ?
>>> e
>>> 12:20PM ~ > captest
>>> User  credentials uid:1000 euid:1000 suid:1000
>>> Group credentials gid:1000 egid:1000 sgid:1000
>>> Current capabilities: none
>>> securebits flags: none
>>> Attempting direct access to shadow...FAILED (Permission denied)
>>> Attempting to access shadow by child process...FAILED
>>> Child User  credentials uid:1000 euid:1000 suid:1000
>>> Child Group credentials gid:1000 egid:1000 sgid:1000
>>> Child capabilities: none
>>> Child securebits flags: none
>>>
>>> is what i get. which is normal.
>>
>> I get the same as you on my system here:
>>
>> florian@washu:~ # uname -a
>> Linux washu 4.11.0 #2 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 2 12:12:51 JST 2017 i686
>> GNU/Linux
>> florian@washu:~ # captest
>> User  credentials uid:500 euid:500 suid:500
>> Group credentials gid:100 egid:100 sgid:100
>> Current capabilities: none
>> securebits flags: none
>> Attempting direct access to shadow...FAILED (Permission denied)
>> Attempting to access shadow by child process...FAILED
>> Child User  credentials uid:500 euid:500 suid:500
>> Child Group credentials gid:100 egid:100 sgid:100
>> Child capabilities: none
>> Child securebits flags: none
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Florian
>>
>>>> could the problem be related to some new sh**y systemd operation
>>>> i saw that also using wayland, i coulnd't access halt/reboot/suspend
>> menu
>>>> items too (this happens to me also with previous kernels)
>>>
>>> works for me with enlightenment + wl + arch (+systemd)... i can do all
>> the
>>> power off etc. stuff...
>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Carsten Haitzler 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 04 May 2017 11:09:13 +0900  said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 May 2017 12:09:21 +0900 Florian Schaefer <
>> list...@netego.de>
>>>>> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03.05.2017 10:04, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 02 May 2017 21:16:40 +0900 fulwood...@gmail.com said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I got the source of kernel 4.11, then comipled, and check the
>>>>>>>&

Re: [E-devel] Can I use enlightenment on the kernel 4.11?

[Florian Schaefer]

On 11.05.2017 22:12, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Thu, 11 May 2017 21:07:20 +0900 Florian Schaefer  said:
> 
>>
>> On 11.05.2017 12:33, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 May 2017 09:48:19 +0200 PaulTT  said:
>>>
>>>> i just posted a message about this... (sorry, i've seen now this thread)
>>>>
>>>> as i said there, there's also a problem with unlocking (so, pam related, i
>>>> assume ?)
>>>> via console su and sudo worked like a charm (i've got error messages about
>>>> cpufreq and backlight too)
>>>
>>> pam would be executing a setuid root binary to do the password check... so
>>> it's the same issue. something has decided that e and app processes below
>>> it in the process tree "cant run setuid (root) binaries" and has disabled
>>> that feature. that feature seems to only kick in with 4.11 kernel. it
>>> certainly is not e doing this. it has relied on this working for many
>>> years. it's something new security-wise that is being enabled by a new
>>> kernel.
>>>
>>> maybe some parent process is using setpriv? CAP_SETUID  disabled? man
>>> capabilities ... for info ... maybe run captest ?
>>> e
>>> 12:20PM ~ > captest
>>> User  credentials uid:1000 euid:1000 suid:1000
>>> Group credentials gid:1000 egid:1000 sgid:1000
>>> Current capabilities: none
>>> securebits flags: none
>>> Attempting direct access to shadow...FAILED (Permission denied)
>>> Attempting to access shadow by child process...FAILED
>>> Child User  credentials uid:1000 euid:1000 suid:1000
>>> Child Group credentials gid:1000 egid:1000 sgid:1000
>>> Child capabilities: none
>>> Child securebits flags: none
>>>
>>> is what i get. which is normal.
>>
>> I get the same as you on my system here:
>>
>> florian@washu:~ # uname -a
>> Linux washu 4.11.0 #2 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 2 12:12:51 JST 2017 i686 GNU/Linux
>> florian@washu:~ # captest
>> User  credentials uid:500 euid:500 suid:500
>> Group credentials gid:100 egid:100 sgid:100
>> Current capabilities: none
>> securebits flags: none
>> Attempting direct access to shadow...FAILED (Permission denied)
>> Attempting to access shadow by child process...FAILED
>> Child User  credentials uid:500 euid:500 suid:500
>> Child Group credentials gid:100 egid:100 sgid:100
>> Child capabilities: none
>> Child securebits flags: none
> 
> try capsh --print
> ?
> Current: =
> Bounding set
> =cap_chown,cap_dac_override,cap_dac_read_search,cap_fowner,cap_fsetid,cap_kill,cap_setgid,cap_setuid,cap_setpcap,cap_linux_immutable,cap_net_bind_service,cap_net_broadcast,cap_net_admin,cap_net_raw,cap_ipc_lock,cap_ipc_owner,cap_sys_module,cap_sys_rawio,cap_sys_chroot,cap_sys_ptrace,cap_sys_pacct,cap_sys_admin,cap_sys_boot,cap_sys_nice,cap_sys_resource,cap_sys_time,cap_sys_tty_config,cap_mknod,cap_lease,cap_audit_write,cap_audit_control,cap_setfcap,cap_mac_override,cap_mac_admin,cap_syslog,cap_wake_alarm,cap_block_suspend,cap_audit_read
> Securebits: 00/0x0/1'b0 secure-noroot: no (unlocked)
>  secure-no-suid-fixup: no (unlocked)
>  secure-keep-caps: no (unlocked)
> uid=1000(raster)
> gid=1000(raster)
> groups=5(tty),6(disk),7(lp),10(wheel),50(games),78(kvm),90(network),91(video),92
> (audio),93(optical),94(floppy),95(storage),96(scanner),98(power),100(users),492
> (oprofile),1000(raster)

Oh, that's a nice command. :-)

florian@washu:~ # /sbin/capsh --print
Current: =
Bounding set
=cap_chown,cap_dac_override,cap_dac_read_search,cap_fowner,cap_fsetid,cap_kill,cap_setgid,cap_setuid,cap_setpcap,cap_linux_immutable,cap_net_bind_service,cap_net_broadcast,cap_net_admin,cap_net_raw,cap_ipc_lock,cap_ipc_owner,cap_sys_module,cap_sys_rawio,cap_sys_chroot,cap_sys_ptrace,cap_sys_pacct,cap_sys_admin,cap_sys_boot,cap_sys_nice,cap_sys_resource,cap_sys_time,cap_sys_tty_config,cap_mknod,cap_lease,cap_audit_write,cap_audit_control,cap_setfcap,cap_mac_override,cap_mac_admin,cap_syslog,cap_wake_alarm,cap_block_suspend,cap_audit_read
Securebits: 00/0x0/1'b0
 secure-noroot: no (unlocked)
 secure-no-suid-fixup: no (unlocked)
 secure-keep-caps: no (unlocked)
uid=500(florian)
gid=100(users)
groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),100(users),106(camera),108(netdev),119(systemd-journal)

It seems that I have cap_setuid. That's good, right?

Cheers,
Florian


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Re: [E-devel] Can I use enlightenment on the kernel 4.11?

[Florian Schaefer]

On 11.05.2017 12:33, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Wed, 10 May 2017 09:48:19 +0200 PaulTT  said:
> 
>> i just posted a message about this... (sorry, i've seen now this thread)
>>
>> as i said there, there's also a problem with unlocking (so, pam related, i
>> assume ?)
>> via console su and sudo worked like a charm (i've got error messages about
>> cpufreq and backlight too)
> 
> pam would be executing a setuid root binary to do the password check... so 
> it's
> the same issue. something has decided that e and app processes below it in the
> process tree "cant run setuid (root) binaries" and has disabled that feature.
> that feature seems to only kick in with 4.11 kernel. it certainly is not e
> doing this. it has relied on this working for many years. it's something new
> security-wise that is being enabled by a new kernel.
> 
> maybe some parent process is using setpriv? CAP_SETUID  disabled? man
> capabilities ... for info ... maybe run captest ?
>e
> 12:20PM ~ > captest
> User  credentials uid:1000 euid:1000 suid:1000
> Group credentials gid:1000 egid:1000 sgid:1000
> Current capabilities: none
> securebits flags: none
> Attempting direct access to shadow...FAILED (Permission denied)
> Attempting to access shadow by child process...FAILED
> Child User  credentials uid:1000 euid:1000 suid:1000
> Child Group credentials gid:1000 egid:1000 sgid:1000
> Child capabilities: none
> Child securebits flags: none
> 
> is what i get. which is normal.

I get the same as you on my system here:

florian@washu:~ # uname -a
Linux washu 4.11.0 #2 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 2 12:12:51 JST 2017 i686 GNU/Linux
florian@washu:~ # captest
User  credentials uid:500 euid:500 suid:500
Group credentials gid:100 egid:100 sgid:100
Current capabilities: none
securebits flags: none
Attempting direct access to shadow...FAILED (Permission denied)
Attempting to access shadow by child process...FAILED
Child User  credentials uid:500 euid:500 suid:500
Child Group credentials gid:100 egid:100 sgid:100
Child capabilities: none
Child securebits flags: none

Cheers,
Florian

>> could the problem be related to some new sh**y systemd operation
>> i saw that also using wayland, i coulnd't access halt/reboot/suspend menu
>> items too (this happens to me also with previous kernels)
> 
> works for me with enlightenment + wl + arch (+systemd)... i can do all the
> power off etc. stuff...
> 
>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Carsten Haitzler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 04 May 2017 11:09:13 +0900  said:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 3 May 2017 12:09:21 +0900 Florian Schaefer 
>>> said:
>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03.05.2017 10:04, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 02 May 2017 21:16:40 +0900 fulwood...@gmail.com said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I got the source of kernel 4.11, then comipled, and check the
>>>>>>>> behaviour of enlightenment (efl 1.18.1, enlightment 0.21.7).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the start up of enlightenment, I got an error message;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  There was an error trying to set the cpu power state setting via
>>> the
>>>>>>>>  module's setfreq utility.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the kernel 4.10.x, I never see such a message.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And, I tried to use su and sudo command in the terminal, I got a
>>>>>>>> strange message;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> fulwood@linux-uw5l:~> sudo
>>>>>>>> sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> fulwood@linux-uw5l:~> su
>>>>>>>> Password:
>>>>>>>> su: incorrect password
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This means, there is a problem concerning uid treatment in the
>>>>>>>> enlightenment, doesn't it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Moreover, VirtualBox indicate the problem of enlightenment
>>> directly;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> fulwood@linux-uw51:~> VirtualBox
>>>>>>>>
>>>>

Re: [E-devel] Can I use enlightenment on the kernel 4.11?

[Florian Schaefer]

Hi!

On 03.05.2017 13:51, fulwood...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Florian Schaefer  has written:
> 
>> Hi!
> 
>> On 03.05.2017 10:04, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>> On Tue, 02 May 2017 21:16:40 +0900 fulwood...@gmail.com said:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I got the source of kernel 4.11, then comipled, and check the
>>>> behaviour of enlightenment (efl 1.18.1, enlightment 0.21.7).
> [...]
>> xterm) any more. Interestingly, if I am right at the console (so no Xorg
>> and e in-between) all those commands work like a charm.
> 
> What did you do?
> 
> Could you inform me of it?

Nothing special actually. Just open a text console and log in as your
normal user or as root directly.

Do you boot directly into graphical? If so you should be able to switch
to a text console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2. Going back to graphical would
then be probably Alt+F1, Alt+F5, or Alt+F7, depending on the details of
your system.

At least for me all commands started to work and I didn't run into any
setuid troubles.

Still, it is inconvenient to switch to a text console every time I want
to do something as root so I am interested in finding the reason for this.

I do not have another window manager installed here so I cannot test
what happens if I were not to use e (I am using basically the current
GIT version BTW). At some point I would like to try starting Xorg just
with an xterm and no window managet just to see what will happen.

But as I will be away from my computer for the next three days those
tests will have to wait a bit. :-)

Cheers,
Florian

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Re: [E-devel] Can I use enlightenment on the kernel 4.11?

[Florian Schaefer]

Hi!

On 03.05.2017 10:04, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Tue, 02 May 2017 21:16:40 +0900 fulwood...@gmail.com said:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I got the source of kernel 4.11, then comipled, and check the
>> behaviour of enlightenment (efl 1.18.1, enlightment 0.21.7).
>>
>> At the start up of enlightenment, I got an error message;
>>
>>  There was an error trying to set the cpu power state setting via the
>>  module's setfreq utility.
>>
>> On the kernel 4.10.x, I never see such a message.
>>
>> And, I tried to use su and sudo command in the terminal, I got a
>> strange message;
>>
>> fulwood@linux-uw5l:~> sudo
>> sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root
>>
>> fulwood@linux-uw5l:~> su
>> Password:
>> su: incorrect password
>>
>> This means, there is a problem concerning uid treatment in the
>> enlightenment, doesn't it.
>>
>> Moreover, VirtualBox indicate the problem of enlightenment directly;
>>
>> fulwood@linux-uw51:~> VirtualBox
>>
>> VirtualBox: Error -10 in SUPRHardenedMain!
>> VirtualBox: Effective UID is not root (euid=1000, egid=100, uid=1000,
>> gid=100)
>> VirtualBox: Tip! It may help to reintall VirtualBox.
>>
>> Why does uid=1000?
> 
> that's a common uid to start with for users added to a system - first user
> added commonly is uid 1000... that's probably ... you.
> 
>> So, we can't use enlightenment on the kernel 4.11.
> 
> from the above it seems like since you compiled your own kernel it seemingly
> has disabled setuid root binaries. i assume this is some new feature of 
> kernels
> since 4.11 that has been turned on. i suggest you turn it off to allow them
> again. your kernel broke far more than enlightenment. it broke sudo. probably
> even broke su. it broke virtualbox... it broke stuff. what that option is - i
> don't know. this is news to me.

Just for the record I'd like to add that I observe the same behavior.

Since switching from 4.9 to 4.11 yesterday I cannot do suid requiring
operations (like su or mount.cifs) from within E (using terminology or
xterm) any more. Interestingly, if I am right at the console (so no Xorg
and e in-between) all those commands work like a charm.

I could not find any setuid related option in the kernel configuration
so I cannot really imagine where it is misconfigured.

Cheers,
Florian

>> PS. e16, and kde-plasma works flawlessly on the kernel 4.11.
>>
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Re: [E-devel] Possible bug with edge bindings and desktops with no windows

[Florian Schaefer]

Sorry if I bump in here, just as I experienced it too...

It was fixed kind of like two days ago, but it was broken again
yesterday and still is. :-(

Cheers,
Florian

On 20.02.2013 07:07, Michael Blumenkrantz wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 06:46:18 +0100
> Marc Burkhardt  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I experience the edge bindings not working when there's no window on a
>> desktop/screen. I have them configured to switch to ie. the right desktop at
>> 0.30 seconds. It works well when I have ie. a terminal open on the desktop. 
>> Once
>> changed to the right I cannot move one desktop further to the right as there 
>> are
>> no windows on the screen.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Marc
>>
>>
> 
> this should be fixed as of a couple days ago...
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Re: [E-devel] Shot Module Photo Upload Busted

[Florian Schaefer]

Hi Raster,

What clock/date module are you using there?

Ciao
Florian

On 26.10.2011 01:53, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:23:03 -0500 Jeff Hoogland  
> said:
> 
> WFM: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-4ea74bb6e1b516.90981561.jpg
> 
>> You sure? Still not uploading here.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Tom Hacohen  wrote:
>>
>>> No compilation needed, it was an issue in the server.
>>>
>>> On 25/10/11 22:18, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 Thanks! Will resync to SVN and recompile in a few hours when I get home
 and see if it works again.

 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Tom Hacohen >>> > wrote:

 On 25/10/11 20:42, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
 > Anyone else having the shot module not uploading properly?
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Re: [E-devel] e17 todo list -> clock+calendar thing done

[Florian Schaefer]

Hi Raster!

On 07.06.2011 12:42, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
[...]
>> Issue: When disabling seconds in analogue mode, the shelf clock does not
>> get updated any more. (SVN revision 60022)
> 
> hm. bug. i'll check.

Thx.

>> Feature request: Could the date also be displayed directly in the shelf
>> (at least in digital mode it seems to me that above/below the time
>> display there should be sufficient space)? Then I could finally get rid
>> of the separate calendar module.
> 
> no. you can make your own theme if you want to do that, but i'm not touching
> the clock module anymore for release. i'm done with it. if you need the date 
> so
> often that a click on the clock is too much work, and you cant remember it 
> from
> the last time you needed it today, then maybe you need another tool. :)

OK, I got it. As my brain is seemingly unable to adjust for a new date
every day (hey, come on, that's a lot of effort) I will either stick to
3rd party modules or hack the source myself. ;-)

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Re: [E-devel] e17 todo list -> clock+calendar thing done

[Florian Schaefer]

Ciao tutti!

On 06.06.2011 05:24, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
[...]
> has a todo list... and i'm wading through it bit by bit. i've knocked off a 
> few
> of the items and this weekend i polished off the clock one. added a whole data
> calendar display in a popup when u click on the clock and a digital mode etc.
[...]

Great stuff. Thanks. However, please let me point out one issue and one
feature request. :)

Issue: When disabling seconds in analogue mode, the shelf clock does not
get updated any more. (SVN revision 60022)

Feature request: Could the date also be displayed directly in the shelf
(at least in digital mode it seems to me that above/below the time
display there should be sufficient space)? Then I could finally get rid
of the separate calendar module.

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Re: [E-devel] batget eats all cpu time, cpu module vanishes

[Florian Schaefer]

Hi,

thank you so much for this.  That really did the trick. :-)  It is
interesting how uninformed you feel not knowing what your CPU is doing.

Cheers,
Florian

P Purkayastha wrote:
[...]
> About the cpu module,- the "Shelf contents" will actually list cpu module 
> as added to the shelf, but it won't be visible. TO fix it, right click on 
> the cpu and check
>   Appearance -> Either "plain" or "inset".
> 
> You will notice that neither of them are checked. Checking either of them 
> will make cpu module stick to the shelf, across restarts.
> 
> Something has changed in the e17 shelf code recently. No module remembers 
> its "Able to be resized" status and defaults to not being able to be 
> resized as soon as e is restarted. And cpu module has the above bug and 
> workaround.
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Re: [E-devel] batget eats all cpu time, cpu module vanishes

[Florian Schaefer]

You are talking about batget here, right?  So batget and tempget use
different ways of obtaining their information?  Anyway, I can confirm
this behavior, batget works in conjunction with 2.6.29 but fails with
2.6.30 -- so this is what you get for running bleeding edge stuff. ;)
So you're waiting for the kernel folks to "fix" things with a newer release?

But what about the behavior of the cpu module?

Ciao
Florian

Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> This is known... Kernel 2.6.30 changed the info reported by
> poll/select on /sys uevents. As we don't know of a way to block for
> updates or be informed of such we're waiting before adding ugly timmed
> polling hacks
> 
> On 6/14/09, Florian Schaefer  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> for some time now I'm experiencing some troubles with the battery and
>> cpu modules in e17.  Everything is with a fresh svn-everything install
>> and with a new ~/.e directory on a debian testing and a debian unstable box.
>>
>> battery module:
>>
>> The batget binary uses up 100 % cpu time.  Running the binary itself
>> prints the battery info just fine, but in-between the ecore idle loops
>> seems not to be very much idle at all.  In contrast, the tempget binary
>> from the temperature module works just fine.
>>
>> cpu module:
>>
>> When I freshly add the cpu module to a shelf everything is fine.
>> However, the next time e17 is restarted, the module doesn't show up in
>> the shelf.  It is only after I make any changes to the shelf (such as
>> adding or removing some arbitrary module) that it suddenly appears again
>> where it's supposed to be.  I cannot really say when this problem first
>> appeared but it must be there for some weeks now.
>>
>>
>> I would have filed tickets on the tracker on these issues, but somehow I
>> was unable to figure out how to do so.  Just posting them here is
>> probably more effective, anyway. ;)
>>
>> If I can provide any more details, debugging outputs, etc. I will
>> happily do my best.  Using enlightenment for about 10 years now, I
>> cannot really express how much I value the work all of you guys spend on
>> this great product.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Florian
>>
>>
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[E-devel] batget eats all cpu time, cpu module vanishes

[Florian Schaefer]

Hi,

for some time now I'm experiencing some troubles with the battery and
cpu modules in e17.  Everything is with a fresh svn-everything install
and with a new ~/.e directory on a debian testing and a debian unstable box.

battery module:

The batget binary uses up 100 % cpu time.  Running the binary itself
prints the battery info just fine, but in-between the ecore idle loops
seems not to be very much idle at all.  In contrast, the tempget binary
from the temperature module works just fine.

cpu module:

When I freshly add the cpu module to a shelf everything is fine.
However, the next time e17 is restarted, the module doesn't show up in
the shelf.  It is only after I make any changes to the shelf (such as
adding or removing some arbitrary module) that it suddenly appears again
where it's supposed to be.  I cannot really say when this problem first
appeared but it must be there for some weeks now.


I would have filed tickets on the tracker on these issues, but somehow I
was unable to figure out how to do so.  Just posting them here is
probably more effective, anyway. ;)

If I can provide any more details, debugging outputs, etc. I will
happily do my best.  Using enlightenment for about 10 years now, I
cannot really express how much I value the work all of you guys spend on
this great product.

Cheers,
Florian



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