Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

2012-05-02 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello.

On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 19:23, Christopher Michael wrote:
 
 If the patches are in order, and no build problems, then ++ here.
 However, I do not believe it should be enabled by default. Tiling
 in E17 is not a 'default' behavior (not everyone uses it or likes
 it), therefore should not be 'enabled' by default in most config
 profiles. That's my only objection.  That aside, the code is nice,
 functional, and acceptable. In it goes (not enabled by default, but
 certainly easily available).

Hmm, the building of the module is enabled by default. It still needs
to be loaded by the user or a profile (no profile does this right now)
to be used. I enabled the building so it is easier to spot for users
that it is available without being hidden behind a configure flag.

If this is not accaptable I will send an updated patch which disables
the build by default.

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Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

2012-05-02 Thread cpmichael1
Enabled during build by default is perfectly acceptable :) I was simply saying 
that IMO it should not be an enabled module by default in the standard config 
profile ;) 

Quick, someone with commit access please put this in !! :) (no commits here 
from work just yet) 

Cheers, 
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To: Christopher Michael cpmicha...@comcast.net 
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Sent: Wednesday, 2 May, 2012 7:33:51 AM 
Subject: Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core 

Hello. 

On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 19:23, Christopher Michael wrote: 
 
 If the patches are in order, and no build problems, then ++ here. 
 However, I do not believe it should be enabled by default. Tiling 
 in E17 is not a 'default' behavior (not everyone uses it or likes 
 it), therefore should not be 'enabled' by default in most config 
 profiles. That's my only objection. That aside, the code is nice, 
 functional, and acceptable. In it goes (not enabled by default, but 
 certainly easily available). 

Hmm, the building of the module is enabled by default. It still needs 
to be loaded by the user or a profile (no profile does this right now) 
to be used. I enabled the building so it is easier to spot for users 
that it is available without being hidden behind a configure flag. 

If this is not accaptable I will send an updated patch which disables 
the build by default. 

regards 
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Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

2012-05-02 Thread Boris Faure
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:50 AM,  cpmicha...@comcast.net wrote:
 Enabled during build by default is perfectly acceptable :) I was simply 
 saying that IMO it should not be an enabled module by default in the standard 
 config profile ;)

 Quick, someone with commit access please put this in !! :) (no commits here 
 from work just yet)

 Cheers,
 dh

Actually, even with the module loaded but not configured, it shouldn't
change the desktop experience.

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Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

2012-05-02 Thread cpmichael1
Fair enough :) That was my main concern...changing the user experience in the 
default config profile. If it does not do that, than great. However, I am 
always of the 'minimalist' type when running my desktop by which I mean If I 
don't need a module, I don't load the module so even tho it may not change the 
user experience unless configured, Why enable a module that someone may never 
use ? ;) 

dh 

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Sent: Wednesday, 2 May, 2012 8:54:53 AM 
Subject: Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core 

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:50 AM, cpmicha...@comcast.net wrote: 
 Enabled during build by default is perfectly acceptable :) I was simply 
 saying that IMO it should not be an enabled module by default in the standard 
 config profile ;) 
 
 Quick, someone with commit access please put this in !! :) (no commits here 
 from work just yet) 
 
 Cheers, 
 dh 

Actually, even with the module loaded but not configured, it shouldn't 
change the desktop experience. 

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Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

2012-05-02 Thread Tom Hacohen
On 02/05/12 10:54, Boris Faure wrote:
 Actually, even with the module loaded but not configured, it shouldn't
 change the desktop experience.


But it wastes ram...

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Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

2012-05-02 Thread Boris Faure
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Tom Hacohen tom.haco...@samsung.com wrote:
 On 02/05/12 10:54, Boris Faure wrote:

 Actually, even with the module loaded but not configured, it shouldn't
 change the desktop experience.


 But it wastes ram...

and cpu cycles!!

I'm not praising for enabling it in default profile. Just compile it by default.

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Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

2012-05-02 Thread Chris Michael


-Original Message-
From: Boris Faure [mailto:bill...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 02 May 2012 09:11
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Cc: Enlightenment developer list
Subject: Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Tom Hacohen tom.haco...@samsung.com
wrote:
 On 02/05/12 10:54, Boris Faure wrote:

 Actually, even with the module loaded but not configured, it shouldn't
 change the desktop experience.


 But it wastes ram...

and cpu cycles!!

I'm not praising for enabling it in default profile. Just compile it by
default.

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Agreed !

Dh



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Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

2012-05-02 Thread Chris Michael


-Original Message-
From: Boris Faure [mailto:bill...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 02 May 2012 09:11
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Cc: Enlightenment developer list
Subject: Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Tom Hacohen tom.haco...@samsung.com
wrote:
 On 02/05/12 10:54, Boris Faure wrote:

 Actually, even with the module loaded but not configured, it shouldn't
 change the desktop experience.


 But it wastes ram...

and cpu cycles!!

I'm not praising for enabling it in default profile. Just compile it by
default.

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Boris Faure

Agree with the above statements !

Dh



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Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

2012-05-02 Thread Alex-P. Natsios
About desktop experience there is a viable way to present that.

BodhiLinux has a tiling profile that if chosen loads and presents
the user with a tiling based minimal config.

Enlightenment by default also ships with a profile that creates a
rather minimal setup.
I guess a new official Tiling profile could be created that would
load a pretty minimal conf + tiling oriented workspace.

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Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

2012-05-02 Thread Chris Michael


 -Original Message-
 From: Alex-P. Natsios [mailto:apnats...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 02 May 2012 09:58
 To: Enlightenment developer list
 Subject: Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into
 core
 
 About desktop experience there is a viable way to present that.
 
 BodhiLinux has a tiling profile that if chosen loads and presents
 the user with a tiling based minimal config.
 
 Enlightenment by default also ships with a profile that creates a
 rather minimal setup.
 I guess a new official Tiling profile could be created that would
 load a pretty minimal conf + tiling oriented workspace.
 

That would also be an acceptable solution.

Dh

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Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

2012-04-30 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello.

On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 18:52, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
 Boris Faure, il 30/04/2012 11:21, ha scritto:
  It is all ok with me. Thank you for doing it.
  About po files, I think maxerba should be able to fix it.
 
 uhmm, actually I'm not a real coder, so I could just try to guess what should
 be done :)
 however the attached patch should be enough to remove from the code all the
 stuff needed to build e-tiling in its own i18n domain.

Thanks a lot. Lets wait for raster to ack it so we can get it
commited.

 all the translatable strings would go directly in enlightement.pot, so
 translators will have to update it (isn't it their job? :) ).

:)

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Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Bring tiling module from EXTRAS into core

2012-04-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:00:15 +0100 Stefan Schmidt ste...@datenfreihafen.org
said:

 Hello.
 
 On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 18:52, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
  Boris Faure, il 30/04/2012 11:21, ha scritto:
   It is all ok with me. Thank you for doing it.
   About po files, I think maxerba should be able to fix it.
  
  uhmm, actually I'm not a real coder, so I could just try to guess what
  should be done :)
  however the attached patch should be enough to remove from the code all the
  stuff needed to build e-tiling in its own i18n domain.
 
 Thanks a lot. Lets wait for raster to ack it so we can get it
 commited.

i havent looked at your initial patch yet, but include massimo's work here. you
need it. :)

  all the translatable strings would go directly in enlightement.pot, so
  translators will have to update it (isn't it their job? :) ).
 
 :)
 
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