[E-devel] Re: The E of E
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Andreas Volz wrote: > > > Am Tue, 22 Feb 2005 04:06:54 -0500 schrieb Jose O Gonzalez: > > > > > > they have apps, communities, publicity and big, mature > toolkits and > > > > everyone > > > > thinks they are trying to "kill microsoft" so they all rally > behind > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > Ok. But, the apps and stuff may follow from a 'mature > toolkit'.. > > > So what is it about their toolkits that is so much more > 'mature'? > > > > > > Who out there would like to spell this out in detail -- > > > What do the EFL's need in order to be as 'mature'? > > > > One reason (but not the most important) for me to use GTK+ for > > programming is MS-Windows support. Many peoply (including me) > don't use > > MS-Windows, but *many* others do! So portability (not only for > UNIX like > > systems) is a important thing. How portable is the EFL? Does it > run > > (without X-Server) on OSX or MS-Windows? These are the questions > for me > > to be a 'mature' toolkit. So, 'maturity' of the libs consists of, at least: 1. Portability across platforms/os. What else? What about the 'maturity' of the libs in terms of capabilities, functionality, etc? What I personally would like to see - as an 'academic' exercise lets say - is a fair description of just what common libs/components it takes to make up something like GNOME or KDE.. A "blueprint", if you will, for what makes up something like a basic 'desktop environment'. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Re: The E of E
> > > they have apps, communities, publicity and big, mature toolkits and > > everyone > > thinks they are trying to "kill microsoft" so they all rally behind > > them. > > Ok. But, the apps and stuff may follow from a 'mature toolkit'.. > So what is it about their toolkits that is so much more 'mature'? > > Who out there would like to spell this out in detail -- > What do the EFL's need in order to be as 'mature'? > > Well, we now have that 'maturity' of the libs consists of, at least: 1. Portability across platforms/os. 2. EWL needs more widgets - to the point where it has the same complement of widgets you see in qt and gtk+. they need to be fast and rock-solid. stable. it needs to support right-to-left languages for text and much better text layout. it needs more documentation and examples. Someone has already expressed interest in working on 1. The question then is - Who out there wants to work on 2.? Who wants to help with the work of finishing the "next generation toolkit" that is, in fact, already here -- ewl. Anything else the efl's need? > What I personally would like to see - as an 'academic' > exercise lets say - is a fair description of just what common > libs/components it takes to make up something like GNOME or KDE.. > > A "blueprint", if you will, for what makes up something like > a basic 'desktop environment'. > Ummm... --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Re: The E of E
> 2. EWL needs more widgets - to the point where it has the same > complement of widgets you see in qt and gtk+. they need to be > fast and rock-solid. stable. it needs to support right-to-left > languages for text and much better text layout. it needs more > documentation and examples > > Someone has already expressed interest in working on 1. > > The question then is - Who out there wants to work on 2.? > Who wants to help with the work of finishing the "next generation > toolkit" that is, in fact, already here -- ewl. I am, at least partially... first on the right/left/vertical language output, and input (R/L, CJK, maybe sth like a keyboard switching tool would also be nice ...) Secondly (read : later) evas/ewl/whatever plugins for pdf/ps. -Thierry- > > > Anything else the efl's need? > > > > What I personally would like to see - as an 'academic' > > exercise lets say - is a fair description of just what common > > libs/components it takes to make up something like GNOME or KDE.. > > > > A "blueprint", if you will, for what makes up something like > > a basic 'desktop environment'. > > > > Ummm... > > > > --- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- Et dire que l'on considere l'espece humaine comme "evoluee" ... --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95&alloc_id396&op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
