RE: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
Upsss.. Too much time without synch to CVS :$ -Mensaje original- De: Carsten Haitzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Lunes, 22 de Agosto de 2005 22:33 Para: Brizuela Ezequiel Hector CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Asunto: Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:14:02 -0300 "Brizuela Ezequiel Hector" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Can U Add a option in a list of active windows to set pos @ (0,0). > Almost, the problem is solved with bad apps, and we can let they go > off-screen, but whith a way to catch up the ear of app and say: "Come > on boy, keep it on-screen" :D thats what the lost windows menu does... when a widnow is lost selecting it from this list will bring it back to the center of the screen. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:14:02 -0300 "Brizuela Ezequiel Hector" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Can U Add a option in a list of active windows to set pos @ (0,0). > Almost, the problem is solved with bad apps, and we can let they go > off-screen, but whith a way to catch up the ear of app and say: "Come on > boy, keep it on-screen" :D thats what the lost windows menu does... when a widnow is lost selecting it from this list will bring it back to the center of the screen. > Greetings > > QliX=D! [aka Ezequiel Brizuela] > > -Mensaje original- > De: Carsten Haitzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Enviado el: Lunes, 22 de Agosto de 2005 02:57 > Para: Ehud Shabtai > CC: enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Asunto: Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single > screen > > On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:07:31 +0300 Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > You're right this problem shows only for some applications such as > > firefox, qgis, eclair. > > There are actually two annoying problems. The first is that since they > > > remember their geometry, when I try to open them on one screen, they > > may open on another. The second problem is the one with being lost > > (when not using dual screens). > > yeah - but this woudl be what i call "badly written apps" they shoudl > accoutnf or screen res/size changes while they may nto be runing and > adjust if they insist on remembering their own stuff, if not, they > should leave the wm to it whihc likely knwos a lot better than the app > ever will. i know app writes dont want to dothis as there are wm's that > are dumb and dont do things well. e17 isnt that gerat yet either. i'd > like it to auto-rememebr stuff like this for you as much as possible. > right now its a manual rememebr process to set it up. > it's mroe of a test to see what i need to do to the remember stuff to > make ti work best. > > > Can't E just relocate the lost window instead of putting it in the > > lost window list? > > there are valid reasons an app could want a window off screen. i am sure > later we can add options like "NEVER allow a window to be off screen by > app request" > etc. but for now we're obeying an apps requests -0 no matter how stupid > they are. it's a good way to hilight stupid apps that need fixing too. > either they need to stop remembering their own geometry and leave it to > the wm entirely, or get a lot smarter at doing it themsleves instead of > doing it badly. > > > Thanks, > > > > Ehud. > > > --- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
RE: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
Can U Add a option in a list of active windows to set pos @ (0,0). Almost, the problem is solved with bad apps, and we can let they go off-screen, but whith a way to catch up the ear of app and say: "Come on boy, keep it on-screen" :D Greetings QliX=D! [aka Ezequiel Brizuela] -Mensaje original- De: Carsten Haitzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Lunes, 22 de Agosto de 2005 02:57 Para: Ehud Shabtai CC: enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Asunto: Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:07:31 +0300 Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > You're right this problem shows only for some applications such as > firefox, qgis, eclair. > There are actually two annoying problems. The first is that since they > remember their geometry, when I try to open them on one screen, they > may open on another. The second problem is the one with being lost > (when not using dual screens). yeah - but this woudl be what i call "badly written apps" they shoudl accoutnf or screen res/size changes while they may nto be runing and adjust if they insist on remembering their own stuff, if not, they should leave the wm to it whihc likely knwos a lot better than the app ever will. i know app writes dont want to dothis as there are wm's that are dumb and dont do things well. e17 isnt that gerat yet either. i'd like it to auto-rememebr stuff like this for you as much as possible. right now its a manual rememebr process to set it up. it's mroe of a test to see what i need to do to the remember stuff to make ti work best. > Can't E just relocate the lost window instead of putting it in the > lost window list? there are valid reasons an app could want a window off screen. i am sure later we can add options like "NEVER allow a window to be off screen by app request" etc. but for now we're obeying an apps requests -0 no matter how stupid they are. it's a good way to hilight stupid apps that need fixing too. either they need to stop remembering their own geometry and leave it to the wm entirely, or get a lot smarter at doing it themsleves instead of doing it badly. > Thanks, > > Ehud. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 19:07:31 +0300 Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > You're right this problem shows only for some applications such as > firefox, qgis, eclair. > There are actually two annoying problems. The first is that since they > remember their geometry, when I try to open them on one screen, they > may open on another. The second problem is the one with being lost > (when not using dual screens). yeah - but this woudl be what i call "badly written apps" they shoudl accoutnf or screen res/size changes while they may nto be runing and adjust if they insist on remembering their own stuff, if not, they should leave the wm to it whihc likely knwos a lot better than the app ever will. i know app writes dont want to dothis as there are wm's that are dumb and dont do things well. e17 isnt that gerat yet either. i'd like it to auto-rememebr stuff like this for you as much as possible. right now its a manual rememebr process to set it up. it's mroe of a test to see what i need to do to the remember stuff to make ti work best. > Can't E just relocate the lost window instead of putting it in the > lost window list? there are valid reasons an app could want a window off screen. i am sure later we can add options like "NEVER allow a window to be off screen by app request" etc. but for now we're obeying an apps requests -0 no matter how stupid they are. it's a good way to hilight stupid apps that need fixing too. either they need to stop remembering their own geometry and leave it to the wm entirely, or get a lot smarter at doing it themsleves instead of doing it badly. > Thanks, > > Ehud. > > > --- > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices > Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA > Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:12:31 -0500 Brian Mattern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Simon TRENY wrote: > > > Isn't it rather the work of the wm? > > > >> > >> Can't E just relocate the lost window instead of putting it in the > >> lost window list? > > > I believe he was actually asking for the wm to do the relocation. > Sounds like a good idea to me, as I can't think of any legitimate reason > why an app would request an off-screen location. However, I haven't > thought about it very long... > I would suggest moving it to the nearest on-screen location to the > coordinates it requested. well here's the problem. i CAN think of legitimate reasons to open a window offscreen. wild example but: 1. open window off screen to the right. 2. over a period of 1-2 seconds slide the window on screen so it slides into view there is no reason a client window can't do this if it wants. it's legal. the reason there is a lost windows list is if this ever happens and goes wrong (window off screen). the correct thing to do here is for the app - if it is going to remember location, remember location AND screen size at the time. if when it starts next time screen size does not match - either forget the location and allow auto-placement to do it's thing or adjust location based on old resolution vs. new resolution. the thing is - e has no idea WHY the app placed itself off screen. if it went off screen - sits there for 3 seconds while the app starts up and such, then slides on screen - that is legal. maybe it slides on screen ONCE a specific event has occurred (like a mouse button pressed or key binding that the app itself grabs). there are legitimate reasons i can think of - thus i refrained from FORCING windows onto the screen. as i said before - there is always the OPTION of forcing them already there - locks and remember. set a lock to disallow the app to move itself AND then tell e to remember the window and the locks and position. then e will take care of location for the app - as the user has indicated they would like this to happen. i'm taking a opt-in approach here, not opt-out as the cases where this happens are rare (resolution changes - and how often do you change res?) :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
RE: Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
> fit in the screen, and if they can't, move them to (0,0)? Isn't it > rather the work of the wm? > If you're app is requesting a specific position i'd say your asking the wm to leave your initial position alone. It would have to make the assumption that you're doing the right thing, so it should be the apps problem to deal with it. If you don't want to deal with it, don't save your position, leave it up to the wm to deal with that. dan --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
Simon TRENY wrote: Isn't it rather the work of the wm? Can't E just relocate the lost window instead of putting it in the lost window list? I believe he was actually asking for the wm to do the relocation. Sounds like a good idea to me, as I can't think of any legitimate reason why an app would request an off-screen location. However, I haven't thought about it very long... I would suggest moving it to the nearest on-screen location to the coordinates it requested. -- brian --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
Indeed, eclair remembers the position of its windows at the shutdown. So the windows will appears out of the screen if you change the resolution, or if you switch off xinerama. So, what can I do to avoid this problem? Just check if the windows can fit in the screen, and if they can't, move them to (0,0)? Isn't it rather the work of the wm? Simon TRENY Ehud Shabtai a écrit : (Sorry about the double post, I forgot to include the list... again). On 8/15/05, Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/15/05, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 10:54:57 +0300 Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: However, when I switch xinerama off and open an application which was opened on the secondary screen, it doesn't show up on screen. It does show up on the 'lost windows' menu and when I click on it, it displays correctly on screen. hmm - does the app remember its own window locations? which app is this? i suspect the app may be remembering its own geometry and thus it places itself offscreen. in this case tell e to remember position and set up locks to lock out application ability to change its location and remember locks. not much to be done about such stupid apps (thus the lost windows menu for just these apps) :) I'll do some tests later on and see if it's really a problem of specific applications. You're right this problem shows only for some applications such as firefox, qgis, eclair. There are actually two annoying problems. The first is that since they remember their geometry, when I try to open them on one screen, they may open on another. The second problem is the one with being lost (when not using dual screens). Can't E just relocate the lost window instead of putting it in the lost window list? Thanks, Ehud. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
(Sorry about the double post, I forgot to include the list... again). On 8/15/05, Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/15/05, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 10:54:57 +0300 Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > > However, when I switch xinerama off and open an application which was > > > opened on the secondary screen, it doesn't show up on screen. It does > > > show up on the 'lost windows' menu and when I click on it, it displays > > > correctly on screen. > > > > hmm - does the app remember its own window locations? which app is this? i > > suspect the app may be remembering its own geometry and thus it places > > itself > > offscreen. in this case tell e to remember position and set up locks to > > lock out > > application ability to change its location and remember locks. not much to > > be > > done about such stupid apps (thus the lost windows menu for just these > > apps) :) > > I'll do some tests later on and see if it's really a problem of > specific applications. You're right this problem shows only for some applications such as firefox, qgis, eclair. There are actually two annoying problems. The first is that since they remember their geometry, when I try to open them on one screen, they may open on another. The second problem is the one with being lost (when not using dual screens). Can't E just relocate the lost window instead of putting it in the lost window list? Thanks, Ehud. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
On 8/15/05, Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/15/05, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 10:54:57 +0300 Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > > However, when I switch xinerama off and open an application which was > > > opened on the secondary screen, it doesn't show up on screen. It does > > > show up on the 'lost windows' menu and when I click on it, it displays > > > correctly on screen. > > > > hmm - does the app remember its own window locations? which app is this? i > > suspect the app may be remembering its own geometry and thus it places > > itself > > offscreen. in this case tell e to remember position and set up locks to > > lock out > > application ability to change its location and remember locks. not much to > > be > > done about such stupid apps (thus the lost windows menu for just these > > apps) :) > > I'll do some tests later on and see if it's really a problem of > specific applications. You're right this problem shows only for some applications such as firefox, qgis, eclair. There are actually two annoying problems. The first is that since they remember their geometry, when I try to open them on one screen, they may open on another. The second problem is the one with being lost (when not using dual screens). Can't E just relocate the lost window instead of putting it in the lost window list? Thanks, Ehud. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
On 8/15/05, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 10:54:57 +0300 Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > However, when I switch xinerama off and open an application which was > > opened on the secondary screen, it doesn't show up on screen. It does > > show up on the 'lost windows' menu and when I click on it, it displays > > correctly on screen. > > hmm - does the app remember its own window locations? which app is this? i > suspect the app may be remembering its own geometry and thus it places itself > offscreen. in this case tell e to remember position and set up locks to lock > out > application ability to change its location and remember locks. not much to be > done about such stupid apps (thus the lost windows menu for just these apps) > :) I'll do some tests later on and see if it's really a problem of specific applications. One application which I remember to cause this problem is QGIS (a QT based GIS software). Even after I get it back from the lost windows, when I open some dialogs in it they also do not appear and found in the lost windows menu. I'll reply again when I have more info. Thanks, Ehud. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 10:54:57 +0300 Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On 8/14/05, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm using E with xinerama and it works fine. However, if I switch > > > xinerama off and restart E, it crashes when I try to open an application. > > > > > > My guess is that E remembers the location of a window in the second > > > screen and when I turn xinerama off and open the application, it tries > > > to put it on the other screen, without checking that it exists ? > > > > can you get us a backtrace? looking at the code it shouldnt segv as i read > > it. > > After updating from CVS, it now seems to work fine (doesn't crash). > However, when I switch xinerama off and open an application which was > opened on the secondary screen, it doesn't show up on screen. It does > show up on the 'lost windows' menu and when I click on it, it displays > correctly on screen. hmm - does the app remember its own window locations? which app is this? i suspect the app may be remembering its own geometry and thus it places itself offscreen. in this case tell e to remember position and set up locks to lock out application ability to change its location and remember locks. not much to be done about such stupid apps (thus the lost windows menu for just these apps) :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
On 8/14/05, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm using E with xinerama and it works fine. However, if I switch > > xinerama off and restart E, it crashes when I try to open an application. > > > > My guess is that E remembers the location of a window in the second > > screen and when I turn xinerama off and open the application, it tries > > to put it on the other screen, without checking that it exists ? > > can you get us a backtrace? looking at the code it shouldnt segv as i read it. After updating from CVS, it now seems to work fine (doesn't crash). However, when I switch xinerama off and open an application which was opened on the secondary screen, it doesn't show up on screen. It does show up on the 'lost windows' menu and when I click on it, it displays correctly on screen. Thanks, Ehud. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E17 crashes when moving for xinerama to a single screen
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 21:04:37 +0300 Ehud Shabtai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Hi, > > I'm using E with xinerama and it works fine. However, if I switch > xinerama off and restart E, it crashes when I try to open an application. > > My guess is that E remembers the location of a window in the second > screen and when I turn xinerama off and open the application, it tries > to put it on the other screen, without checking that it exists ? can you get us a backtrace? looking at the code it shouldnt segv as i read it. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects & Teams * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
