Re: [E-devel] elm_flip broken API and implementation

2012-07-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:52:45 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
 said:

> On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:04:17 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
>  said:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> >  wrote:
> > > As we're close to release, I'd like to discuss a bug in elm_flip that
> > > annoys me:
> > >
> > > elm_flip_go() does NOT take the front/back parameter, then if the app
> > > wants to control it properly (ie: toggle button, toolbar, edje) it can
> > > get out of sync. The app would need a control variable on its own that
> > > syncs with elm_flip_*_visible_get()
> > >
> > > The situation is worse if you quickly "go" before it's finished the
> > > animation. Then elm_flip_*_visible_get() reports something but visually
> > > its something else! Then your app must keep a state, listen for animation
> > > ended signal and then request a flip again.
> > >
> > > Of course none of these are app duty. If someone could fix it, I'd be
> > > happy as the flip code is not that nice. Otherwise I'll fix it myself by
> > > adding another call that takes the side you want to flip to and will keep
> > > the state correct by flipping back automatically after the animation is
> > > done.
> > 
> > just fixed it in r74360.
> > 
> > however elm_flip makes my brain go crazy, I believe raster did this
> > thing in an hour or so, it barely works but is all mixed. My personal
> > opinion is that it should be cleaned up so interactive mode is split
> > from regular animation. Also the mess to mix up the cases is strange.
> 
> at first flip didnt have an interactive mode - i added that later and ended up
> recycling the animation subsystem for it.
> 
> > Last but not least there are couple of "FIXME" noting hacks about
> > Evas_Map, if the map is broken, it should be fixed (Cedric?).
> > Otherwise remove the FIXMEs. And the page flip is completely broken,
> > also does not work for widgets, just for images... why? If image
> > source should do the work?
> 
> these fixes need a lot of work in evas - relative position of smart children
> (as opposed to absolute), as well as a total rewrite of evas_render. the
> fixme's are there to note that they need removal eventually when this happens.
> 
> the flips have been broken by cedircs recent fixing of evas map. they all
> worked before. :) as above. evas-render needs a redesign - it was
> hyper-optimized for doing a flat canvas model and map breaks that model, but
> it was stuffed in anyway. i warned at the time that evas was not designed for
> that and so it was going to be a hack. :)

ok - right now evas map is ok - its not broken. the image ion the back is the
same as the image on the front - just flipped. this is just what the flip
widget does. it repeats it on the back of the flipping page and the "back side"
of the flip is flat on the bottom under the page. interactive flip for page
curl is broken - it used to work just fine. it just doesnt get the "finishing
off the anim and go to end state" right at all.

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Re: [E-devel] elm_flip broken API and implementation

2012-07-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:04:17 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
 said:

> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
>  wrote:
> > As we're close to release, I'd like to discuss a bug in elm_flip that annoys
> > me:
> >
> > elm_flip_go() does NOT take the front/back parameter, then if the app wants
> > to control it properly (ie: toggle button, toolbar, edje) it can get out of
> > sync. The app would need a control variable on its own that syncs with
> > elm_flip_*_visible_get()
> >
> > The situation is worse if you quickly "go" before it's finished the
> > animation. Then elm_flip_*_visible_get() reports something but visually its
> > something else! Then your app must keep a state, listen for animation ended
> > signal and then request a flip again.
> >
> > Of course none of these are app duty. If someone could fix it, I'd be happy
> > as the flip code is not that nice. Otherwise I'll fix it myself by adding
> > another call that takes the side you want to flip to and will keep the state
> > correct by flipping back automatically after the animation is done.
> 
> just fixed it in r74360.
> 
> however elm_flip makes my brain go crazy, I believe raster did this
> thing in an hour or so, it barely works but is all mixed. My personal
> opinion is that it should be cleaned up so interactive mode is split
> from regular animation. Also the mess to mix up the cases is strange.

at first flip didnt have an interactive mode - i added that later and ended up
recycling the animation subsystem for it.

> Last but not least there are couple of "FIXME" noting hacks about
> Evas_Map, if the map is broken, it should be fixed (Cedric?).
> Otherwise remove the FIXMEs. And the page flip is completely broken,
> also does not work for widgets, just for images... why? If image
> source should do the work?

these fixes need a lot of work in evas - relative position of smart children
(as opposed to absolute), as well as a total rewrite of evas_render. the
fixme's are there to note that they need removal eventually when this happens.

the flips have been broken by cedircs recent fixing of evas map. they all
worked before. :) as above. evas-render needs a redesign - it was
hyper-optimized for doing a flat canvas model and map breaks that model, but it
was stuffed in anyway. i warned at the time that evas was not designed for that
and so it was going to be a hack. :)

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Re: [E-devel] elm_flip broken API and implementation

2012-07-24 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
 wrote:
> As we're close to release, I'd like to discuss a bug in elm_flip that annoys
> me:
>
> elm_flip_go() does NOT take the front/back parameter, then if the app wants
> to control it properly (ie: toggle button, toolbar, edje) it can get out of
> sync. The app would need a control variable on its own that syncs with
> elm_flip_*_visible_get()
>
> The situation is worse if you quickly "go" before it's finished the
> animation. Then elm_flip_*_visible_get() reports something but visually its
> something else! Then your app must keep a state, listen for animation ended
> signal and then request a flip again.
>
> Of course none of these are app duty. If someone could fix it, I'd be happy
> as the flip code is not that nice. Otherwise I'll fix it myself by adding
> another call that takes the side you want to flip to and will keep the state
> correct by flipping back automatically after the animation is done.

just fixed it in r74360.

however elm_flip makes my brain go crazy, I believe raster did this
thing in an hour or so, it barely works but is all mixed. My personal
opinion is that it should be cleaned up so interactive mode is split
from regular animation. Also the mess to mix up the cases is strange.

Last but not least there are couple of "FIXME" noting hacks about
Evas_Map, if the map is broken, it should be fixed (Cedric?).
Otherwise remove the FIXMEs. And the page flip is completely broken,
also does not work for widgets, just for images... why? If image
source should do the work?

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Re: [E-devel] elm_flip broken API and implementation

2012-07-19 Thread ChunEon Park
Don't mention "If ... else.. I will do" 

Otherwise, He will do it by himself. 

:-3


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Subject: Re: [E-devel] elm_flip broken API and implementation

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
@profusion.mobi> wrote:
> As we're close to release, I'd like to discuss a bug in elm_flip that annoys
> me:
>
> elm_flip_go() does NOT take the front/back parameter, then if the app wants
> to control it properly (ie: toggle button, toolbar, edje) it can get out of
> sync. The app would need a control variable on its own that syncs with
> elm_flip_*_visible_get()
>
> The situation is worse if you quickly "go" before it's finished the
> animation. Then elm_flip_*_visible_get() reports something but visually its
> something else! Then your app must keep a state, listen for animation ended
> signal and then request a flip again.
>
> Of course none of these are app duty. If someone could fix it, I'd be happy
> as the flip code is not that nice. Otherwise I'll fix it myself by adding
> another call that takes the side you want to flip to and will keep the state
> correct by flipping back automatically after the animation is done.

sooo? :-)


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Re: [E-devel] elm_flip broken API and implementation

2012-07-19 Thread Jérôme Pinot
On 07/19/12 09:28, Iván Briano wrote:
> 2012/7/19 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri :
> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> >  wrote:
> >> As we're close to release, I'd like to discuss a bug in elm_flip that 
> >> annoys
> >> me:
> >>
> >> elm_flip_go() does NOT take the front/back parameter, then if the app wants
> >> to control it properly (ie: toggle button, toolbar, edje) it can get out of
> >> sync. The app would need a control variable on its own that syncs with
> >> elm_flip_*_visible_get()
> >>
> >> The situation is worse if you quickly "go" before it's finished the
> >> animation. Then elm_flip_*_visible_get() reports something but visually its
> >> something else! Then your app must keep a state, listen for animation ended
> >> signal and then request a flip again.
> >>
> >> Of course none of these are app duty. If someone could fix it, I'd be happy
> >> as the flip code is not that nice. Otherwise I'll fix it myself by adding
> >> another call that takes the side you want to flip to and will keep the 
> >> state
> >> correct by flipping back automatically after the animation is done.
> >
> > sooo? :-)
> >
> 
> Remove the widget, when people complains bring up the subject in
> that thread.

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Re: [E-devel] elm_flip broken API and implementation

2012-07-19 Thread Iván Briano
2012/7/19 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri :
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
>  wrote:
>> As we're close to release, I'd like to discuss a bug in elm_flip that annoys
>> me:
>>
>> elm_flip_go() does NOT take the front/back parameter, then if the app wants
>> to control it properly (ie: toggle button, toolbar, edje) it can get out of
>> sync. The app would need a control variable on its own that syncs with
>> elm_flip_*_visible_get()
>>
>> The situation is worse if you quickly "go" before it's finished the
>> animation. Then elm_flip_*_visible_get() reports something but visually its
>> something else! Then your app must keep a state, listen for animation ended
>> signal and then request a flip again.
>>
>> Of course none of these are app duty. If someone could fix it, I'd be happy
>> as the flip code is not that nice. Otherwise I'll fix it myself by adding
>> another call that takes the side you want to flip to and will keep the state
>> correct by flipping back automatically after the animation is done.
>
> sooo? :-)
>

Remove the widget, when people complains bring up the subject in
that thread.

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Re: [E-devel] elm_flip broken API and implementation

2012-07-19 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
 wrote:
> As we're close to release, I'd like to discuss a bug in elm_flip that annoys
> me:
>
> elm_flip_go() does NOT take the front/back parameter, then if the app wants
> to control it properly (ie: toggle button, toolbar, edje) it can get out of
> sync. The app would need a control variable on its own that syncs with
> elm_flip_*_visible_get()
>
> The situation is worse if you quickly "go" before it's finished the
> animation. Then elm_flip_*_visible_get() reports something but visually its
> something else! Then your app must keep a state, listen for animation ended
> signal and then request a flip again.
>
> Of course none of these are app duty. If someone could fix it, I'd be happy
> as the flip code is not that nice. Otherwise I'll fix it myself by adding
> another call that takes the side you want to flip to and will keep the state
> correct by flipping back automatically after the animation is done.

sooo? :-)


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