Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?

2009-05-14 Thread sda
hi,

sorry if this request was written by someone already, didn't look
through the thread.

right now each new unread message add own box and if the message is
unread then hovering mouse over that box (without clicking) will raise
the original notification:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/47af1635729112 

but when you're out for a long period and then back - such behavior is
not quite comfortable. it'd be really great to have a single
remainder-box with an options to review and delete the unread
messages.

right here several critical alerts types are fetched from logs and
proceeded with notify-send, festival (as an option) and so on. it'd
be really nice option to have an unique notification management tool.
at least an option to store unread messages and work with them later
could be handy for some.

regards,
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Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?

2009-05-13 Thread Viktor Kojouharov
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 notification module is useful, I like it and will move to
 e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to
 revamp it so I need input from other users of it.
 
 for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages
 and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any
 application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using
 libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new
 ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current
 e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent)
 window if composite manager is in use.
 
 if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half
 of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it
 seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do
 you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature,
 fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules.
Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice
work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard
with that. 

One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper
multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but
appears as a box character in the message.

 


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Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?

2009-05-13 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov
vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
 Hey all,

 notification module is useful, I like it and will move to
 e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to
 revamp it so I need input from other users of it.

 for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages
 and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any
 application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using
 libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new
 ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current
 e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent)
 window if composite manager is in use.

 if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half
 of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it
 seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do
 you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature,
 fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules.
 Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice
 work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard
 with that.

 One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper
 multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but
 appears as a box character in the message.

which software is sending \n inside message? AFAIU, the message
should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with br.

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Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?

2009-05-13 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:08 AM, P Purkayastha ppu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:

 Hey all,

 notification module is useful, I like it and will move to
 e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to
 revamp it so I need input from other users of it.

 for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages
 and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any
 application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using
 libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new
 ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current
 e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent)
 window if composite manager is in use.

 if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half
 of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it
 seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do
 you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature,
 fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules.



 Hi,
  I am a regular (daily) user of notification module. I use it on the shelf.
 There is one thing which has always bothered me,- that is the fact that the
 notification module does not seem to respect the urgency level. I have just
 now tried the following with a clean and new config with only notification
 module enabled in addition to the default enabled modules.

[...]

I noticed that too and plan to fix it and maybe change title color or
mark popups with their level somehow (ideas btw?). Anyway, you
described good test cases that I'll consider while doing the work.


 With all the negative comments above, I must say one positive comment: the
 rest of the module works absolutely fine. I have configured it heavily in my
 original .e config, tweaking *all* the checkboxes/sliders I could find. :D

 Since you are trying to clean up the module, I thought it would be a good
 time to bring up this bug :D

sure. I'll rework this and some ui bits of popup at least.

since you're the sole user of box feature, do you really want to
keep it or may I drop that, at least for now? Then someone else can
try to work on it (if done properly, it's like viktor's drawer, but
with different content).

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Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?

2009-05-13 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
barbi...@profusion.mobi wrote:
 Hey all,

 notification module is useful, I like it and will move to
 e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to
 revamp it so I need input from other users of it.

 for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages
 and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any
 application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using
 libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new
 ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current
 e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent)
 window if composite manager is in use.

I like the notification system, it is quite useful in some apps, so
it's great that E's implementation will be further improved.
Qt unfortunately has a own internal system for showing similar popups,
but hopefully that will change.

 if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half
 of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it
 seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do
 you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature,
 fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules.

I tried the gadget some time ago and didn't find it useful at all.
However, I could imagine a gadget that stores notifications to make it
available as history in list form.
Would imho be a better use for a gadget (could also be possible to
disable notify-popups so they go directly in the history and can be
viewed later).
Also this allows it to have a fixed space in a shelf where it is
visible as a single gadget whether or not there are any notifications.

So I'd say: drop it and maybe create a useful replacement.

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Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?

2009-05-13 Thread Viktor Kojouharov
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:13 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov
 vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
  Hey all,
 
  notification module is useful, I like it and will move to
  e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to
  revamp it so I need input from other users of it.
 
  for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages
  and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any
  application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using
  libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new
  ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current
  e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent)
  window if composite manager is in use.
 
  if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half
  of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it
  seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do
  you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature,
  fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules.
  Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice
  work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard
  with that.
 
  One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper
  multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but
  appears as a box character in the message.
 
 which software is sending \n inside message? AFAIU, the message
 should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with br.

Fn + F3 (battery info) sends \n for a newline when displaying the
status message on my laptop. It is probably not alone. Both
notification-daemon and notify-osd handle \n fine btw.

 


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Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?

2009-05-13 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Viktor Kojouharov
vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:13 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov
 vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
  Hey all,
 
  notification module is useful, I like it and will move to
  e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to
  revamp it so I need input from other users of it.
 
  for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages
  and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any
  application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using
  libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new
  ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current
  e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent)
  window if composite manager is in use.
 
  if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half
  of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it
  seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do
  you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature,
  fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules.
  Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice
  work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard
  with that.
 
  One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper
  multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but
  appears as a box character in the message.

 which software is sending \n inside message? AFAIU, the message
 should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with br.

 Fn + F3 (battery info) sends \n for a newline when displaying the
 status message on my laptop. It is probably not alone. Both
 notification-daemon and notify-osd handle \n fine btw.

we can see how to make edje understand \n, but I'd fix the apps
whenever possible.

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Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?

2009-05-13 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:14:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
barbi...@profusion.mobi said:

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Viktor Kojouharov
 vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:13 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
  On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov
  vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
   Hey all,
  
   notification module is useful, I like it and will move to
   e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to
   revamp it so I need input from other users of it.
  
   for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages
   and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any
   application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using
   libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new
   ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current
   e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent)
   window if composite manager is in use.
  
   if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half
   of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it
   seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do
   you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature,
   fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules.
   Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice
   work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard
   with that.
  
   One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper
   multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but
   appears as a box character in the message.
 
  which software is sending \n inside message? AFAIU, the message
  should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with br.
 
  Fn + F3 (battery info) sends \n for a newline when displaying the
  status message on my laptop. It is probably not alone. Both
  notification-daemon and notify-osd handle \n fine btw.
 
 we can see how to make edje understand \n, but I'd fix the apps
 whenever possible.

textbloc expect markup. not plain txext. the notification module should convert
from plain to markup. it's simply using the api wrongly.

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Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?

2009-05-13 Thread P Purkayastha
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
 sure. I'll rework this and some ui bits of popup at least.

 since you're the sole user of box feature, do you really want to
 keep it or may I drop that, at least for now? Then someone else can
 try to work on it (if done properly, it's like viktor's drawer, but
 with different content).
   
If by box you mean the area which stores the icons, then you may remove 
it if you don't have time to maintain it. I used it because I could 
think up a use case for it (notifying me of mail by watching alpine's 
status ;) ).

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Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?

2009-05-13 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
 On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:14:05 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
 barbi...@profusion.mobi said:

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Viktor Kojouharov
 vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 08:13 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
  On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Kojouharov
  vkojouha...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 23:24 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
   Hey all,
  
   notification module is useful, I like it and will move to
   e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to
   revamp it so I need input from other users of it.
  
   for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages
   and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any
   application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using
   libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new
   ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current
   e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent)
   window if composite manager is in use.
  
   if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half
   of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it
   seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do
   you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature,
   fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules.
   Never used this one myself, and I didn't know exactly what it did. Nice
   work with making the text fit nicely though, I was struggling quite hard
   with that.
  
   One problem I noticed, the (composite) theme does not allow proper
   multiline messages. The newline character does not break the line, but
   appears as a box character in the message.
 
  which software is sending \n inside message? AFAIU, the message
  should be subset of HTML and like breaks should be done with br.
 
  Fn + F3 (battery info) sends \n for a newline when displaying the
  status message on my laptop. It is probably not alone. Both
  notification-daemon and notify-osd handle \n fine btw.

 we can see how to make edje understand \n, but I'd fix the apps
 whenever possible.

 textbloc expect markup. not plain txext. the notification module should 
 convert
 from plain to markup. it's simply using the api wrongly.

i know, but I wonder if the notification spec allows you to send \n as
well... if it does, I can do that, if not I'll not fix broken programs
in e

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Re: [E-devel] notification module: how do you use it?

2009-05-12 Thread P Purkayastha
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
 Hey all,

 notification module is useful, I like it and will move to
 e/src/modules (that is: officially supported), but first I need to
 revamp it so I need input from other users of it.

 for those that do not use it: notification will receive dbus messages
 and show them as popups. these messages can be sent by any
 application, but usually is done by gnome/gtk applications using
 libnotify, however some qt applications are using it and the new
 ubuntu uses a subset of that spec to show their fancy popups. Current
 e/module implementation will also present a fancy (semi transparent)
 window if composite manager is in use.

 if you use it: do you use the box/gadget feature? This is about half
 of the code, I never used it or found a use for it, when I tried it it
 seems broken. So I rather drop this instead of trying to fix. What do
 you think? Anyone strongly against it? If not I'll drop this feature,
 fix some bugs with popup positioning and move it to e/src/modules.

   
Hi,
  I am a regular (daily) user of notification module. I use it on the 
shelf. There is one thing which has always bothered me,- that is the 
fact that the notification module does not seem to respect the urgency 
level. I have just now tried the following with a clean and new config 
with only notification module enabled in addition to the default enabled 
modules.

1. If I send the command
*e-notify-send -u low test test 2*
then the icon remains in the module box even though I have specified in 
the configuration that it should not store the icons for the low level, 
that is Levels of urgency to store has low disabled.

2. On the other hand if I remove the tick marks on *all* the urgency 
levels, then it does work and does not show the icon.

3. If I tick only 'normal' urgency level to store, and do a
*e-notify-send -u critical test test 2*
then it does not show the icon, but the command with '-u low' shows the 
icon.

4. I just now noticed that the Levels of urgency to popup in the 
configuration under Extensions has low disabled. Still I always got 
popups when I tried the above commands with '-u low'.

5. In the very beginning when you first introduced this module, it took 
me quite some time to figure out that the configuration dialog was split 
into two parts and one part was under Extensions, the other part being 
accessible from the shelf. It is just a personal remark that I did not 
expect there to be further configuration present under Extensions.

With all the negative comments above, I must say one positive comment: 
the rest of the module works absolutely fine. I have configured it 
heavily in my original .e config, tweaking *all* the checkboxes/sliders 
I could find. :D

Since you are trying to clean up the module, I thought it would be a 
good time to bring up this bug :D

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