Re: [E-devel] Blendered Goodness

2003-01-22 Thread Robert G. Werner
Ben Rockwood wrote:

New background for E, it's kool enough that I thought I'd mention it
here.  Pandora did this, and I believe is on this very list.  He's agreed to
do more for anyone who wants them for their E projects.  He's a long time
E zealot, I am happy to say.

http://www.cuddletech.com/backgrounds/e_glass_pandora.jpg

benr.


Blender you say.  Cool!!!

I really need to learn how to use is so that I could try making 
something like that,  end up with something stupid looking,  and then 
go get drunk to drown my sorrows.

I have to say,  great job Pandora,  just don't go opening any boxes 
you haven't put stuff in yourself,  OK?

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Re: [E-devel] more elogin questions

2003-01-22 Thread Alan Schmitt
* Phil Morris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> After a few crashes I found that I could not reload e17 anymore from 
> elogin or from startx. 
> I think I have tracked it down to something its doing to
> ~/.e/behavior/match.db
> Try deleting match.db and see if you can load e17 again
> after that. In any case you should not have to kill all 
> of ~/.e dir structure to get it loading again. 

I have not tried it, but I think you are correct: last time I had a
problem I did diff the generated .e hierarchy that works with the one
that does not, and only match.db seems to be different.

Would match.db hold some info about stickyness, by any chance ?

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Re: [E-devel] more elogin questions

2003-01-22 Thread Phil Morris
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 07:51:59AM -0500, Alan Schmitt wrote:
> * Phil Morris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > After a few crashes I found that I could not reload e17 anymore from 
> > elogin or from startx. 
> > I think I have tracked it down to something its doing to
> > ~/.e/behavior/match.db
> > Try deleting match.db and see if you can load e17 again
> > after that. In any case you should not have to kill all 
> > of ~/.e dir structure to get it loading again. 
> 
> I have not tried it, but I think you are correct: last time I had a
> problem I did diff the generated .e hierarchy that works with the one
> that does not, and only match.db seems to be different.
> 
> Would match.db hold some info about stickyness, by any chance ?
Don't think so but im not really sure of its purpose. 
Remember you can view the db files under ~/.e using edb_gtk_ed

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> Alan
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Re: [E-devel] more elogin questions

2003-01-22 Thread Alan Schmitt
* Phil Morris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Don't think so but im not really sure of its purpose. 
> Remember you can view the db files under ~/.e using edb_gtk_ed

Well, I looked at it, and I cannot really fathom what it's for. But it
does not mention gkrellm, which is the sticky app that I thought was
breaking everything, so I must be guessing wrong about this sticky
business.

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Re: [E-devel] more elogin questions

2003-01-22 Thread Alan Schmitt
* Andrew Elcock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 15:05, Alan Schmitt wrote:
> > * Andrew Elcock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 14:21, Alan Schmitt wrote:
> > > using elogin (latest) e17 segfaults even if no apps are loading :(
> > > (just using the E17 item)
> > 
> > Did you try setting /usr/local/bin in your path in /etc/profile ?
> > 
> > Alan
> 
> yup - well, /usr/e17/bin
> 
> It seems to be to do with match.db also - if I delete that then
> everything is fine until it gets re-created, then it goes belly up
> again.
> 
> 
> OH!!! - also found where all the CPU cycles are going on starting E17 -
> it reloads the iconbar many times (that is fast) but then tries to
> reload the background for each desktop about 10 times each
> Any ideas why?

I do not know. I am copying e-dev, if someone has some insight about it.

I have another question for you, Andrew: does this behaviour only occur
when you are using e17 from elogin, or is it the case as well when using
startx ?

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Re: [E-devel] more elogin questions

2003-01-22 Thread Andrew Elcock
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 16:08, Alan Schmitt wrote:
> * Andrew Elcock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 15:05, Alan Schmitt wrote:
> > > * Andrew Elcock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 14:21, Alan Schmitt wrote:
> > > > using elogin (latest) e17 segfaults even if no apps are loading :(
> > > > (just using the E17 item)
> > > 
> > > Did you try setting /usr/local/bin in your path in /etc/profile ?
> > > 
> > > Alan
> > 
> > yup - well, /usr/e17/bin
> > 
> > It seems to be to do with match.db also - if I delete that then
> > everything is fine until it gets re-created, then it goes belly up
> > again.
> > 
> > 
> > OH!!! - also found where all the CPU cycles are going on starting E17 -
> > it reloads the iconbar many times (that is fast) but then tries to
> > reload the background for each desktop about 10 times each
> > Any ideas why?
> 
> I do not know. I am copying e-dev, if someone has some insight about it.
> 
> I have another question for you, Andrew: does this behaviour only occur
> when you are using e17 from elogin, or is it the case as well when using
> startx ?
> 
> Alan

this occurs both from startx and elogin, but only started when I started
to use elogin

Andy

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Re: [E-devel] more elogin questions

2003-01-22 Thread Alan Schmitt
* Andrew Elcock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 16:08, Alan Schmitt wrote:
> > I have another question for you, Andrew: does this behaviour only occur
> > when you are using e17 from elogin, or is it the case as well when using
> > startx ?
> > 
> > Alan
> 
> this occurs both from startx and elogin, but only started when I started
> to use elogin

I do observe the same behaviour: as long as I use startx, then e17
works fine. As soon as I use elogin, then e17 cannot be started using
either elogin or startx until I nuke match.db.

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[E-devel] Evas docs

2003-01-22 Thread David Fredin
Hi!

Are the Evas documentation pdf any relevant anymore? Are there any usable spots of 
information that still applies to Evas2?

By the way, I have a bug report on the Evas presentation articles, the [HTML] links on 
both part 2 and part 3 links to a non-existent index.txt

*looks forward to e17*

Sincerely
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Re: [E-devel] Evas docs

2003-01-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:46:28 +0100 "David Fredin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:

> Hi!
> 
> Are the Evas documentation pdf any relevant anymore? Are there any usable
> spots of information that still applies to Evas2?

the old pdf and docs on the website are not relevant - except in principle. in
detail they are useless. the principles of a canvas still apply though.

the new evas (not called evas2 anymore - that was just a working name) comes
with some docs. run ./gendoc in the evas base source dir to generate them (if
you have doxygen installed). you'll get html, latex and man pages (install them
right and man evas_new will work!) :)

the docs are NOT complete. i simply don't have that much time to go completing
them, so it will take a long time till i do (slowly).

> By the way, I have a bug report on the Evas presentation articles, the [HTML]
> links on both part 2 and part 3 links to a non-existent index.txt
> 
> *looks forward to e17*
> 
> Sincerely
> /David Fredin
> 
> 
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Re: [E-devel] Re: enlightenment-cvs digest, Vol 1 #1285 - 6 msgs

2003-01-22 Thread The Rasterman
On 21 Jan 2003 09:39:50 + "Mark R. Bowyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> Just saw raster's update to the News site in the CVS log...
> 
> +@:news_body@
> +
> +For all E junkies there are now PANTS ON T-shirts available
> +http://www.cafeshops.com/e_pants>Here. Remember to keep your
> +pants on while using Enlightenment. It can be dangerous not to. This was
> +just too good to leave alone.
> +
> +@:news_end@
> 
> For those of you who don't know, over here in the home of the English
> language, your "pants" are the undergarments worn beneath your trousers
> (or troosers if you come from Scotland).  This gives the text of these
> tshirts a certain extra frisson, since without it, no one could really
> be sure... 

aah there i the rub. here in the land of oz, 
pants = trousers.
underpants = underwear
underdacks = underpants
dacks = underdacks
undies = dacks
panties = undies for girls
knickers = some silly word foreign people use

so... PANTS ON!

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Re: [E-devel] Blendered Goodness

2003-01-22 Thread Nathan Baxter
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:16:40 -0800 (PST)
"Ben Rockwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> New background for E, it's kool enough that I thought I'd mention it
> here.  Pandora did this, and I believe is on this very list.  He's agreed to
> do more for anyone who wants them for their E projects.  He's a long time
> E zealot, I am happy to say.
> 
> http://www.cuddletech.com/backgrounds/e_glass_pandora.jpg
> 
> benr.
> 

Dagnammit, fully slays my crappy 'lil glass effort. None the less I have a new 
background!

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Re: Re: [E-devel] more elogin questions

2003-01-22 Thread Corey Donohoe
* Alan Schmitt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> * Andrew Elcock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 16:08, Alan Schmitt wrote:
> > > I have another question for you, Andrew: does this behaviour only occur
> > > when you are using e17 from elogin, or is it the case as well when using
> > > startx ?
> > > 
> > > Alan
> > 
> > this occurs both from startx and elogin, but only started when I started
> > to use elogin
> 
> I do observe the same behaviour: as long as I use startx, then e17
> works fine. As soon as I use elogin, then e17 cannot be started using
> either elogin or startx until I nuke match.db.
I'm getting the same behavior at school.  For now I have no clue about
it. =)
> 
> Alan
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[E-devel] old files in ecore/src

2003-01-22 Thread bmattern
is there a reason that the old e_*.c files are still in SPLIT's ecore/src
dir? i'm assuming they just were never removed, and was about to remove them,
but i thought i'd check before i did that. 
Let me know if it's ok to remove them and I will.
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Re: [E-devel] old files in ecore/src

2003-01-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:09:26 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

> is there a reason that the old e_*.c files are still in SPLIT's ecore/src
> dir? i'm assuming they just were never removed, and was about to remove them,
> but i thought i'd check before i did that. 
> Let me know if it's ok to remove them and I will.

leave leave! notice the Makefile just includes them as extra_dist. they are
there to "steal from" as needed. until ecore does everything the old one did..
it will be good to keep them around. it will help build a new one :)


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Re: [E-devel] old files in ecore/src

2003-01-22 Thread bmattern
* Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-23 15:22:34 +1100]:

> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:09:26 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
> 
> > is there a reason that the old e_*.c files are still in SPLIT's ecore/src
> > dir? i'm assuming they just were never removed, and was about to remove them,
> > but i thought i'd check before i did that. 
> > Let me know if it's ok to remove them and I will.
> 
> leave leave! notice the Makefile just includes them as extra_dist. they are
> there to "steal from" as needed. until ecore does everything the old one did..
> it will be good to keep them around. it will help build a new one :)

ok. that thought crossed my mind, which is why i asked first. thanks for the
clarification.

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