Re: [e-users] edje_cc problem while building Emotion

2004-10-12 Thread Jan Swierzawski
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) napisa(a):
and this is a recent cvs? did imlib2 build with png loader support? when you
built it?
Imlib2 is built with png loader support, and I downloaded it some two
days ago and started building it right after the download was complete.
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[e-users] 3ddesktop

2004-10-12 Thread Daniel Stonier
For those who are using it with e and would like to get it to work on
'virtual desktops' rather than the 'multiple desktops' I managed to figure
out what was causing the problems.
http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/3d/3ddesktop-0.2.7.tar.gz
http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/3d/3ddesktop-0.2.7-1.i386.rpm
I haven't automated it on my machine yet - you probably just want to start
the daemon in your .XClients file or some such. Then set some keybindings.
Getting it to pre-acquire images is another issue. To test it, just start
the daemon on the command line with:
For moving between 'virtual desktops' use
3ddeskd --wm=enlightenment
For moving between 'multiple desktops' use (default is --wm=ewmh)
3ddeskd
Then running '3ddesk' will jump you into a carousel view of your desktops.
Be interesting to compile two different daemons, one to handle virtuals
and the other multiples so they can be run side by side - but even better
would be an extension to work with e as a special effect like the sliding  
:)

This monkey has to stop playing and start studying though!
Cheers,
Daniel.

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Re: [e-users] 3ddesktop

2004-10-12 Thread phriedrich
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 04:29:13 +1000
Daniel Stonier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [...] To test it, just
 start the daemon on the command line with:
 
 For moving between 'virtual desktops' use
   3ddeskd --wm=enlightenment

Mhm...doesn't work here.

Enlightenment Version : enlightenment-0.16.7.2

Regards,

Friedrich


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Re: [e-users] 3ddesktop

2004-10-12 Thread Daniel Stonier
Hmm Just tried running it on my router machine and it echoed the moan  
that yours emitted.

I think it may be due to different builds of e. This experienced expert  
has only head his head wrapped in this and
e's window management code for all of about 5 hours so maybe one of the  
devs can point me out if I'm my arguments
are completely bunk :) So, a quick guess:

My working build is probably due to the fact I built e16 yesterday with  
--enable-hints-ewmh and --enable-hints-gnome.
Now I think ewmh are enabled by default so its probably the latter.  
Especially since the guy who wrote 3ddesktop seems to
be guessing e's system works like the older gnome jazz and so all  
configuration options default to that (he doesn't really use
anything e-specific). The actual elements causing the problem are the  
WIN_AREA and WIN_AREA_COUNT Xatoms.
So I guess if you want to get it going for now you'll need to go to the  
effort of custom building your e.

It would be pretty damn snazzy to get this going seamlessly with both  
workspaces and desktops, but the more I look at it the
more bugs I find! So I expect I'll have to drop this till the Jacaranda's  
stop flowering and exams are finished.

Cheers,
Daniel Stonier.
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 22:50:50 +0200, phriedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 06:08:14 +1000
Daniel Stonier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Exactly what didn't work? And were you trying via rpm or source?
[...]
Sorry, forget to insert the error-message:
Could not find more then one virtual desktop!
Daemon started.  Run 3ddesk to activate.
In fact I have four virtual desktops and only one multiple.
Regards,
Friedrich

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Re: [e-users] Re: Fonts offset from where they should be

2004-10-12 Thread Kim Woelders
A. S. Budden wrote:
Thus spake Carsten Haitzler:
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 10:48:45 +0100 A. S. Budden 
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Another problem I've noticed that I guess is related is that the
fonts in gsview have become really big and blocky -- there's a
screenshot of this problem at http://gataki.co.uk/gsview.jpg
This is certainly a less irritating problem than the offset text,
but I'd guess solving one would solve the other.  It's really
frustrating to not be able to read the text on epplets -- for the
first time since I started using enlightenment a couple of years
ago, I'm seriously considering changing to a different window
manager.
Can anyone offer any help with this at all... please?!
this has nothing to do with enlightenment - it looks like your font
install or setup has changed. enlightenment does NOTHING to try
change your font setup, paths etc. etc. something else has changed
this.

After a lot of trawling the logs for what's changed and a lot of 
restarting X to test theories (not to mention a lot of help from my 
local LUG), I've worked out what the problem is, so I thought I'd
post in case anyone else has the same issue.

I'd switched my system over to UTF-8 to enable me to use English and 
Russian together -- bash doesn't work very well, unless the LC_CTYPE
is set appropriately, understandably.  In doing so, enlightenment was
 running with LC_CTYPE set to en_GB.UTF-8.  Changing the line in my 
.xinitrc that starts enlightenment to:

LC_CTYPE=en_GB enlightenment
fixed the problem of the font display.  I still think this is a
problem with enlightenment, but I leave people who know more about
these things to make a final decision.
Hope that helps someone else someday anyway...
I have a problem similar to yours, except that I have to select e.g.
LANG=en_GB.utf8 to make things look right.
The BrushedMetal theme uses the lucida font all over, e.g.
-*-lucida-bold-r-normal-*-*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
However, I don't have that, but I do have:
$ xlsfonts -fn -*-lucida-bold-r-normal-*-*-100-*-*-p-*-*
-bh-lucida-bold-r-normal-sans-10-100-75-75-p-66-iso10646-1
-bh-lucida-bold-r-normal-sans-10-100-75-75-p-66-iso10646-1
-bh-lucida-bold-r-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-89-iso10646-1
-bh-lucida-bold-r-normal-sans-14-100-100-100-p-89-iso10646-1
When I set LANG=en_GB, X wants charset iso8859-1, rejects lucida and
falls back to using fixed, but when using LANG=en_GB.utf8 X is happy
with lucida.
I guess your lucida font only has the iso8859-1 encoding.
I'm not sure there are any better (simple) solutions to this problem
than to set the locale to match your theme font as you have done, or to
change the theme font to something that matches your locale encoding.
Maybe install the missing font encoding, if possible.
/Kim
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Re: [e-users] edje_cc problem while building Emotion

2004-10-12 Thread The Rasterman
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(Bwell for some reason imlib2 cant load that png image. libpng, the png loader
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Re: [e-users] Re: Fonts offset from where they should be

2004-10-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:20:49 +0100 "A. S. Budden"
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(B   Another problem I've noticed that I guess is related is that the fonts
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(B   
(B   This is certainly a less irritating problem than the offset text, but
(B   I'd guess solving one would solve the other.  It's really frustrating to
(B   not be able to read the text on epplets -- for the first time since I
(B   started using enlightenment a couple of years ago, I'm seriously
(B   considering changing to a different window manager.
(B   
(B   Can anyone offer any help with this at all... please?!
(B  
(B  this has nothing to do with enlightenment - it looks like your font install
(B  or setup has changed. enlightenment does NOTHING to try change your font
(B  setup, paths etc. etc. something else has changed this.
(B 
(B After a lot of trawling the logs for what's changed and a lot of
(B restarting X to test theories (not to mention a lot of help from my
(B local LUG), I've worked out what the problem is, so I thought I'd post
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(B I'd switched my system over to UTF-8 to enable me to use English and
(B Russian together -- bash doesn't work very well, unless the LC_CTYPE is
(B set appropriately, understandably.  In doing so, enlightenment was
(B running with LC_CTYPE set to en_GB.UTF-8.  Changing the line in my
(B .xinitrc that starts enlightenment to:
(B 
(B LC_CTYPE=en_GB enlightenment
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(B fixed the problem of the font display.  I still think this is a problem
(B with enlightenment, but I leave people who know more about these things
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(B 
(B Hope that helps someone else someday anyway...
(B
(Benlightenment 0.16.x isnt really all that good whne it comes to utf8 - but your
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Re: [e-users] 3ddesktop

2004-10-12 Thread Kim Woelders
Daniel Stonier wrote:
Hmm Just tried running it on my router machine and it echoed the
moan that yours emitted.
I think it may be due to different builds of e. This experienced
expert has only head his head wrapped in this and e's window
management code for all of about 5 hours so maybe one of the devs can
point me out if I'm my arguments are completely bunk :) So, a quick
guess:
My working build is probably due to the fact I built e16 yesterday
with --enable-hints-ewmh and --enable-hints-gnome. Now I think ewmh
are enabled by default so its probably the latter. Especially since
the guy who wrote 3ddesktop seems to be guessing e's system works
like the older gnome jazz and so all configuration options default to
that (he doesn't really use anything e-specific). The actual elements
causing the problem are the WIN_AREA and WIN_AREA_COUNT Xatoms. So I
guess if you want to get it going for now you'll need to go to the 
effort of custom building your e.

It would be pretty damn snazzy to get this going seamlessly with both
 workspaces and desktops, but the more I look at it the more bugs I
find! So I expect I'll have to drop this till the Jacaranda's stop
flowering and exams are finished.
I had it running a while back, but now I get:
$ 3ddeskd
...
3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
This is with xorg 6.8.1, composite enabled, nvidia drivers.
Any hints are welcome.
Anyway, if you go on digging into this you should disable the old gnome
hints so they don't confuse things, and 3ddesktop should only use the
ewmh hints.
I doubt there are problems in E's viewport/desktop hint handling as it
plays perfectly well together with e.g. the gnome-panel pager.
/Kim
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Fwd: Re: [e-users] 3ddesktop

2004-10-12 Thread Daniel Stonier
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:59:19 +0200, Kim Woelders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daniel Stonier wrote:
Hmm Just tried running it on my router machine and it echoed the
moan that yours emitted.
 I think it may be due to different builds of e. This experienced
expert has only head his head wrapped in this and e's window
management code for all of about 5 hours so maybe one of the devs can
point me out if I'm my arguments are completely bunk :) So, a quick
guess:
 My working build is probably due to the fact I built e16 yesterday
with --enable-hints-ewmh and --enable-hints-gnome. Now I think ewmh
are enabled by default so its probably the latter. Especially since
the guy who wrote 3ddesktop seems to be guessing e's system works
like the older gnome jazz and so all configuration options default to
that (he doesn't really use anything e-specific). The actual elements
causing the problem are the WIN_AREA and WIN_AREA_COUNT Xatoms. So I
guess if you want to get it going for now you'll need to go to the  
effort of custom building your e.
 It would be pretty damn snazzy to get this going seamlessly with both
 workspaces and desktops, but the more I look at it the more bugs I
find! So I expect I'll have to drop this till the Jacaranda's stop
flowering and exams are finished.

I had it running a while back, but now I get:
$ 3ddeskd
...
3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
This is with xorg 6.8.1, composite enabled, nvidia drivers.
Any hints are welcome.
Anyway, if you go on digging into this you should disable the old gnome
hints so they don't confuse things, and 3ddesktop should only use the
ewmh hints.
I doubt there are problems in E's viewport/desktop hint handling as it
plays perfectly well together with e.g. the gnome-panel pager.
/Kim
Haven't upgraded to xorg yet - too busy with study and its waiting till
post exams as well so I'm afraid I can't help you there. Unless the file
that replaces XF86Config has a typo or needs extra editing. I know on
XFree86 it gives you GLX errors if you install the nvidia jazz but forget  
or typo
when updating the XF86Config to tell it to use the nvidia driver  
correctly. Do your glx
xscreensavers work?

E's ewmh handling looks fine - I ran some test code I quickly did up to
check a few of the hints as well as some playing around with xprop and it
looked ok. It's Brad's 3ddesktop setup that is a bit short. His ewmh setup  
only
looks for e's 'multiple desktops' - this is all thats needed in gnome or  
kde. To
get around our virtual desktops he was using the old gnome configuration.
So rather than fixing that I should probably look at extending the ewmh  
code
to do the virtual desktops.  But this will take some more time than the 5  
or
6 hours I spent toying with it last night :)

Interesting how catering for everyone tends to make code absolutely
bewildering.  So much so I think it might be easier starting from scratch,
(build it up using evas perhaps?) and just borrow ideas from his for
implementation concepts.
Cheers,
Daniel.

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Re: [e-users] Entrance, entranced...

2004-10-12 Thread Josh Lauricha
On Oct 5, 2004, at 7:35 AM, Gaetan wrote:
I use the compiled version from http://j.portalier.free.fr/
i works fine but suffers of a strange bug:
If i use the entrance demon and launch it at startup (S99entrance link 
to ../init.d/entrance in rc2.d) the server is launched but i can't 
enter anything in the keyboard: the program is blocked for a few 
second each time i press a key (to enter the login) and nothing is 
done after. But the mouse (USB) works and i can restart using a 
button.
But if i disable that link and login as root and then start the daemon 
(entranced or /etc/init.d/entrance start) it works fine: the login 
appear, i can enter the username and password.

I use a PS2 board
Any idea?
I've run into the same problem on an iBook G4 running Debian Sarge. 
Since it just recently started, I'm thinking its probably a lib issue.

ps. Gaetan: sorry for the duplicate
Gaetan
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[e-users] Eterm mouse wheel scroll

2004-10-12 Thread Profeta Mickael
Hi

I am using Eterm 0.9.2-8 on a debian sid system with icewm ax windows
manager.
I'm very satisfied about Eterm except one thing which makes me crazy:
if I use the mouse wheel to scroll in the Eterm window, it scrolls more
than one page!
How can I tune this? It seems to scroll about 45 lines, whereas my
terminal has only 24 lines.

I know that shift+wheel scrolls one line, but I would like pager to work.

thanks for help

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Re: [e-users] Easy Configuration Question

2004-10-12 Thread topher
I really like Eterm.  However, the default font color is grey.  How and 
where do I change it to white?
Eterm -f white
that'll give you white text.
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2004-10-12 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Hi,

When is E going to have a user configuration (*rc) file, so that I don't
have to completely reconfigure it when install on a new machine?

Can't be that hard to implement, can it?  (Wink, wink.  Nudge, nudge.)

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[e-users] E17 spanish translation

2004-10-12 Thread miguel roig
Oooops! I'm Rotxa ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] but my email is
dead, please use alternative [EMAIL PROTECTED] ).
I'm the (es) translator of the EFL cookbook and the
ewl book. Since I lost my email, I also lost contact
with my only reader, a guy from Venezuela who sent me
some patches for the docs. SI LEES ESTO ESCRIBEME A MI
NUEVO EMAIL, PERDI TU DIRECCION.

Since I started this job wihtout anybody asking me, I
guess people expect me to maintain the docs ( any help
welcome ). Circumstances of life mean I've not been
doing it lately. I'll try to keep an eye now. Anybody
who wants to translate something please try to contact
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Re: [e-users] Eterm mouse wheel scroll

2004-10-12 Thread Michael Jennings
On Sunday, 26 September 2004, at 23:11:13 (+0200),
Profeta Mickael wrote:

 I am using Eterm 0.9.2-8 on a debian sid system with icewm ax windows
 manager.
 I'm very satisfied about Eterm except one thing which makes me crazy:
 if I use the mouse wheel to scroll in the Eterm window, it scrolls more
 than one page!
 How can I tune this? It seems to scroll about 45 lines, whereas my
 terminal has only 24 lines.
 
 I know that shift+wheel scrolls one line, but I would like pager to work.

The built-in Eterm defaults scroll less than a page.  So I'd guess
this is a Debian issue.  But careful perusal of the man page will
reveal how to scroll by specific amounts.

Michael

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