Re: [e-users] Multiple Monitors
Peter wrote: Geoffrey wrote: Peter wrote: My ONLY gripe is that E thinks the desktops are the same for both monitor heads, so my background and settings and themes are the same for each desktop on each monitor. Which version of E are you running? 16.7.1 here. I have different backgrounds on my two monitors. I am running 16.7.2 from CVS. And Desktop 1 and Desktop 2 share the same background on startup each time on each monitor. Have you attempted to change the background on one and see if the other remains? You're not using xinerama right? I know that when I was using xinerama, it did keep the same on both monitors. -- Until later, Geoffrey Registered Linux User #108567 AT&T Certified UNIX System Programmer - 1995 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Multiple Monitors
Peter wrote: This is how I worked it. For xinerama or twinview, you would not do it this way. The only difference I see in my config between using xinerama and not using is: < Option "Xinerama" "on" --- > Option "Xinerama" "off" -- Until later, Geoffrey Registered Linux User #108567 AT&T Certified UNIX System Programmer - 1995 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Multiple Monitors
Daniel Stonier wrote: On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 22:42:40 -0400, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Peter, Your settings are exactly what I've currently got in my XFree86Config. With one call to /usr/bin/enlightenment in my .xinitrc it actually goes ahead and spawns two instances of e (these show up on 'ps axu'), but both use the same configuration - which seems to be where our problem is. I've got to sessions of E running, with different themes, note the following 'ps' output: esoteric 27802 0.4 0.4 9424 4800 ?SOct16 3:28 /usr/local/enlightenment/bin/enlightenment -ext_init_win 60817410 -theme shinygreen -econfdir /home/esoteric/.enlightenment -ecachedir /home/esoteric/.enlightenment -smfile /home/esoteric/.enlightenment/...e_session-XX -single esoteric 27891 0.5 0.4 8368 4228 ?SOct16 4:05 /usr/local/enlightenment/bin/enlightenment -ext_init_win 62914562 -theme winter -econfdir /home/esoteric/.enlightenment -ecachedir /home/esoteric/.enlightenment -smfile /home/esoteric/.enlightenment/...e_session-XX -single Note the theme flags are different values. Now this was done manually, that is, I changed one theme after E was started. I don't know how you would set this up on boot. Further, if I reboot, both monitors come up with the latest theme set for either monitor. -- Until later, Geoffrey Registered Linux User #108567 AT&T Certified UNIX System Programmer - 1995 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Multiple Monitors
Geoffrey wrote: > Peter wrote: >> Geoffrey wrote: >> >> >>>Peter wrote: > My ONLY gripe is that E thinks the desktops are the same for both monitor heads, so my background and settings and themes are the same for each desktop on each monitor. >>> >>>Which version of E are you running? 16.7.1 here. I have different >>>backgrounds on my two monitors. >>> >> >> I am running 16.7.2 from CVS. And Desktop 1 and Desktop 2 share the same >> background on startup each time on each monitor. > > Have you attempted to change the background on one and see if the other > remains? You're not using xinerama right? I know that when I was using > xinerama, it did keep the same on both monitors. > I thought I had answered that. YES, If I change a setting on one monitor, it sticks through the entire E session. Once I quit, E stores the last change and that is the setup for BOTH monitors on the next start. Yes, using xinerama is akin to using 1 monitor. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Multiple Monitors
On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 08:22, Peter wrote: > Geoffrey wrote: > > Have you attempted to change the background on one and see if the other > > remains? You're not using xinerama right? I know that when I was using > > xinerama, it did keep the same on both monitors. > > > > I thought I had answered that. YES, If I change a setting on one monitor, it > sticks through the entire E session. Once I quit, E stores the last change > and that is the setup for BOTH monitors on the next start. Yes, using > xinerama is akin to using 1 monitor. Back on Aug. 4 of this year, I had posted this exact question under the thread of "Bugs with Dual Head?" After searching my archives, it appears that all of the responses were sent to me off list However, the answer to me at that time was the only way to achieve this (two configs for dual headed screens) was to run two sessions as two different users otherwise, both screens read the same configs resulting in the odd behavior noted in this thread (and by me as well :) Further digging at the nVidia message board for Linux users turned up a known bug in their drivers preventing nVidia users from launching two X-servers to different screens. This will be fixed in a future release. (I was using the Twinview features of the nVidia driver) I saw that someone concerned with this thread posted their xconfig file and it contained the nVidia driver. This bug will rear its head once you reach the conclusion that e will need to run as two users to use separate configuration. Unless the e developers have a way of specifying separate configs for separate screens. I was told back in August to not hold my breathe. Hope this helps!! -- Derek Schaible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CSSI, Inc. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [e-users] Multiple Monitors
Woohoo! Managed to get two differently configured desktops running (with the same user) using multihead in XF86Config without xinerama (the configuration Peter had posted). The nice thing about this is that it lets you configure two differently sized monitors. I've got one 19" CRT with 1600x1200 resolution and the other a 1280x1024 DFP. Here's the plan. - Firstly, there's a command line option you can pass to e which doesn't show up on 'enlightenment --help'. Starting e with enlightenment -single prevents it from opening slave desktops on multiple screens for the same x display (ie doesn't create the second desktop on :0.1). In effect, this gives you the same behaviour as starting an xterm session that I was looking for earlier. - I did a straight copy of my .enlightenment directory to .enlightenment-secondary for the second configuration. Note if you have lots of backgrounds/themes stored in here you might want to store them somewhere else and just symlink to it from both config directories. - I'm running gdm with a session file that looks at .Xclients for configuration. My .Xclients file: exec gnome-settings-daemon & exec /usr/X11R6/bin/xscreensaver -no-splash -display :0 & exec /usr/bin/gdesklets & exec /usr/bin/enlightenment -single -display :0.0 & exec /usr/bin/enlightenment -single -econfdir /home/snorri/.enlightenment-secondary -display :0.1 Hope this helps the adventurous :) Cheers, Daniel Stonier. On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:15:25 -0400, Derek Schaible <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 08:22, Peter wrote: Geoffrey wrote: > Have you attempted to change the background on one and see if the other > remains? You're not using xinerama right? I know that when I was using > xinerama, it did keep the same on both monitors. > I thought I had answered that. YES, If I change a setting on one monitor, it sticks through the entire E session. Once I quit, E stores the last change and that is the setup for BOTH monitors on the next start. Yes, using xinerama is akin to using 1 monitor. Back on Aug. 4 of this year, I had posted this exact question under the thread of "Bugs with Dual Head?" After searching my archives, it appears that all of the responses were sent to me off list However, the answer to me at that time was the only way to achieve this (two configs for dual headed screens) was to run two sessions as two different users otherwise, both screens read the same configs resulting in the odd behavior noted in this thread (and by me as well :) Further digging at the nVidia message board for Linux users turned up a known bug in their drivers preventing nVidia users from launching two X-servers to different screens. This will be fixed in a future release. (I was using the Twinview features of the nVidia driver) I saw that someone concerned with this thread posted their xconfig file and it contained the nVidia driver. This bug will rear its head once you reach the conclusion that e will need to run as two users to use separate configuration. Unless the e developers have a way of specifying separate configs for separate screens. I was told back in August to not hold my breathe. Hope this helps!! -- email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.optusnet.com.au/stonierd/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] xearth and xplanet on E
I saw a brief thread on this, but I am unable to get either program to control the root window. As the earlier thread indicated, it only seems to work on desktop 0. If you switch away and back, either xearth or xplanet is gone. In fact, I don't even see a process for it running. I tried loading it in the XXXsession file, and it caused a crash on e logout. Either app runs fine under xscreensaver using a virtual root window, but I cannot figure out how to have E not overwrite the root window with a background (yes, I set NO BACKGROUND). So, anyone who had success with this, I'd appreciate knowing. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Multiple Monitors
Daniel Stonier wrote: > > Woohoo! Managed to get two differently configured desktops running > (with the same user) using multihead in XF86Config without xinerama > (the configuration Peter had posted). The nice thing about this is that it > lets you configure two differently sized monitors. I've got one 19" CRT > with > 1600x1200 resolution and the other a 1280x1024 DFP. Here's the plan. > snip... >> >> Hope this helps!! Yes, that's good information! --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] 2 Backgrounds
tnx :) there are no real objects. Everything is a render. tnx man :) On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:33:30 +0200, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://landofillusions.no-ip.org/imgs/e002.jpg Great pictures! One question: is the wood board a real foto or is it also renderd? great work! greetz david -- http://landofillusions.no-ip.org/ -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Manuali.net ti REGALA decine di corsi, da Dreamweaver a Photoshop, da WindowsXP ad Office. * Non devi far altro che cliccare e... scaricare! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=2735&d=17-10 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Multiple Monitors
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:16:26 -0400 Geoffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 07:26:59 +1000 "Daniel Stonier" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > > >>I just picked up a second monitor and was curious as to what X > >>arrangements others are using with e in the same situation - do you use > >>twinview/xinerama? Are there other > >>options? Is it possible to get both monitors viewing the same > >>enlightenment desktop simultaneously but moving around independantly? > > > > > > dont use xinerama. use plain old fashioned multihead then (caveat - u cant > > drag windows between screens or stretch them across screens) > > Okay, I'm confused, I'm using xinerama and I can do exactly what you've > suggested. If I don't use xinerama, I get duplication of screens on the > monitors. Any pointers to pages which will tell you how to set this up? > > What does this do for you that xinerama does not? multihead is what existed "before" xinerama. it is what xinerama is built on. it treats each screen as a separate head - separate root window etc. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
