FW: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question...

2005-02-15 Thread Martin White
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-Original Message-
From: Martin White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 February 2005 10:55
To: 'Adrien Tougas'
Subject: RE: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question...


Yes, thanks, that's helpful info...

When I get some time then I'll see if I can't resize the icons in the
evidence theme, investigate E16.8 and then maybe proceed onto E17 even.

Assuming that I do resize the icons, is it worth passing them onto someone
else for a default_small theme, or has that already been done?

Martin

-Original Message-
From: Adrien Tougas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 February 2005 21:53
To: Martin White
Subject: Re: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question...


On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 20:03 +, Martin White wrote:

 So, I installed about 7 RPMs (ecore, edb, edje, eet, embryo, evas,
 evidence itself) and it seems to be working a treat. Nice one!!
  
 Did i ought to be overly concerned about the fact that they were SUSE
 RPMs? I guess not since it's working, but i don't really want to hit a 
 problem further down the line on this work machine :) I think i have 
 to use --nodeps on 1 of the rpms, but that was one of the very first 
 so i probably ended up resolving the dependencies later on anyway.

The dependency problems you ran into are (most likely) caused because the
EFL needs to be built in a certain order, that order is: imlib2 edb eet evas
ecore epeg epsilon embryo edje esmart emotion etox ewl imlib2_loaders
engrave

 Only question relating to Evidence that i have is can i reduce the
 size of the icons? They're beautiful and i really like it, but they're 
 a bit large for my liking.

The icon size in Evidence is actually the size of the icon files found in
the (relevant) themes directory. 
Once you locate the themes icons it's as simple as resizing them.
 
 And finally, is there much more to getting E17 to work seeing as all
 of the above RPMs were from E17 iirc? Can the two coexist? E16  17 
 that is? If i have to remove E16 then i'd be reluctant for now, as i 
 say, this is a work laptop and i can't spare even half a day if it 
 goes completely pear shaped. At least i'd have to be fairly creative 
 with a few excuses!!

IIRC Kim Woelders, has made changes to E16.8 so that it may reside alongside
E17. 

HTH



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[e-users] Getting Firefox and Thunderbird to Interoperate

2005-02-15 Thread Michael Hughes
All
Does anyone know how to get Firefox and Thunderbird to invoke one 
another on links?  I discovered that you can get Thunderbird to invoke 
the browser of your choice on a URL link in a message by creating a 
script called LaunchBrowser in the same directory as the Thunderbird 
executable.  This would contain something like:

 #!/bin/sh
 /usr/local/firefox/firefox $1
and needs execute permission for everyone, of course.
There ought to be an easier way to do this, plus I have not found 
anything comparable in Firefox.  In FC3, clicking a mailto:; link in a 
Web page invokes Evolution.  This must be a Fedora default somewhere but 
I can't find out how it is controlled.

My experience with Mozilla lists and forums is that they are all Windwos 
users.

Mike
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Re: [e-users] Hello and maybe a question...

2005-02-15 Thread BAM
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 20:03 +, Martin White wrote:
 Try as i might though i just couldn't get used to living without a
 file manager. This was dissapointing t me, but i guess the years of
 KDE have rubbed off on me.

You can run any KDE or GNOME application, including their file managers,
in E16. If you're running Firefox, you probably already have the core
GNOME libraries, for example, so you could just install Nautilus and
go...

 So this afternoon i went down the Evidence route.

...But Evidence has some neat features Konqi and Nautilus don't. :)

 Things were a little shaky with the source compile and in the end i
 gave up with that as i shouve been writing code not compiling other
 peoples really. I don't recall off my head what the sticking point was
 but i decided to give the SUSE RPMs a shot just for the hell of it, i
 could always back it out afterall.
  
 So, I installed about 7 RPMs (ecore, edb, edje, eet, embryo, evas,
 evidence itself) and it seems to be working a treat. Nice one!!
  
 Did i ought to be overly concerned about the fact that they were SUSE
 RPMs? I guess not since it's working, but i don't really want to hit a
 problem further down the line on this work machine :) I think i have
 to use --nodeps on 1 of the rpms, but that was one of the very first
 so i probably ended up resolving the dependencies later on anyway.

I think Mandrake has RPMs for some of those libraries in contrib, but I
don't think Evidence is there. Maybe easiest to keep running the SUSE
RPMs if they don't whine about missing libraries. (.so's, that is.
Missing packages are different; some undoubtedly just have different
names in Mandrake.)
 
 And finally, is there much more to getting E17 to work seeing as all
 of the above RPMs were from E17 iirc?

E17 is under heavy development and lacks many features. For day-to-day
tasks you might be better off with E16.

The only way to find out how much work it would be is trying it. :) At
that point, I'd personally compile from CVS rather than use the RPMs if
they are at all out of date. But I don't know if there are CVS changes
Evidence hasn't kept up with.

 Can the two coexist? E16  17 that is? If i have to remove E16 then
 i'd be reluctant for now, as i say, this is a work laptop and i can't
 spare even half a day if it goes completely pear shaped. At least i'd
 have to be fairly creative with a few excuses!!

E16.7 and older cannot co-exist with E17. E16.8 (current CVS) can.



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[e-users] e17 keybindings don't work...

2005-02-15 Thread Abhas Abhinav
Hi Everyone!
I'm having a very odd sort of problem with e17 keybindings. Even after 
I've configured all the keybindings using the ebindings program, none of 
them work at all! :(

I can see the following files in ~/.e/behavior/ :
behavior.db
actions.db
grabs.db
settings.db
apps_menu.db
What could I be doing wrong? Any sort of inputs would be very helpful 
since keybindings are what stop me from using e17 as my wm.

Cheers, and thanks in advance,
Abhas.
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Re: [e-users] e17 keybindings don't work...

2005-02-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:33:51 +0530 Abhas Abhinav [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hi Everyone!
 
 I'm having a very odd sort of problem with e17 keybindings. Even after 
 I've configured all the keybindings using the ebindings program, none of 
 them work at all! :(
 
 I can see the following files in ~/.e/behavior/ :
 
 behavior.db
 actions.db
 grabs.db
 settings.db
 apps_menu.db
 
 What could I be doing wrong? Any sort of inputs would be very helpful 
 since keybindings are what stop me from using e17 as my wm.

there did you get that e17 code from?  it's definitely NOT e17 cvs. that code is
years old and nothing like e17 being developed.

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Re: [e-users] e17 keybindings don't work...

2005-02-15 Thread Abhas Abhinav
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 10:49 AM (The Rasterman) wrote:
there did you get that e17 code from?  it's definitely NOT e17 cvs. that code is
years old and nothing like e17 being developed.
I'm using the latest e17 - using a debian package built from CVS on 15th 
Feb, 05.

Initially I tried to create my own bindings.db file using ebindings but 
it did not work. No matter what keybinding I put in, they just wouldn't 
apply. I thought there was something wrong with my config file.

After some searching on google to see if I could get a sample 
bindings.db, I fetched a very old version (as you rightly say) from the 
e17 CVS Attic. Then when I ran ebindings, it showed a lot of good 
defaults, but sadly, it did not work.

Cheers,
Abhas.
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Re: [e-users] e17 keybindings don't work...

2005-02-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:04:06 +0530 Abhas Abhinav [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 On Wednesday 16 February 2005 10:49 AM (The Rasterman) wrote:
  there did you get that e17 code from?  it's definitely NOT e17 cvs. that
code is
  years old and nothing like e17 being developed.
 
 I'm using the latest e17 - using a debian package built from CVS on 15th 
 Feb, 05.

you sure as hell arent. e17 sues NO db files it doesn't look in ~/.e/behavior
etc. you definitely do not have what he rest of us are working on. you have
nothing close to it.

 Initially I tried to create my own bindings.db file using ebindings but 
 it did not work. No matter what keybinding I put in, they just wouldn't 
 apply. I thought there was something wrong with my config file.
 
 After some searching on google to see if I could get a sample 
 bindings.db, I fetched a very old version (as you rightly say) from the 
 e17 CVS Attic. Then when I ran ebindings, it showed a lot of good 
 defaults, but sadly, it did not work.

as i said... you are nowhere near the e17 we work on. you have something that is
years and years old.

btw - ebindings doesn't work with current e17 - there are no keybindings support
in current e17. you have gone and found ancient code that we even have gone and
entirely forgotten about.

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Re: [e-users] e17 keybindings don't work...

2005-02-15 Thread Abhas Abhinav
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 12:20 PM Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) 
wrote:
btw - ebindings doesn't work with current e17 - there are no keybindings support
in current e17. you have gone and found ancient code that we even have gone and
entirely forgotten about.
Well - then I'll have to compile e17 myself from the CVS source code! 
Let me do that and get back to you.

Thanks a lot for your response,
Abhas.
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Re: [e-users] e17 keybindings don't work...

2005-02-15 Thread Sebastien Vincent
Hello,
 Well - then I'll have to compile e17 myself from the CVS source code!
 Let me do that and get back to you.
There exist a script that makes it simple :
http://steev.net/files/update_e.pl
try flag -h for help.
 Thanks a lot for your response, Abhas.
Enjoy E :)
Seb.

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