[e-users] turn off Bling?

2007-06-21 Thread Dan Kronstal
Hello everyone.
I have e17 installed from Debian packages onto an Etch netinst. Things were
grand, and I was all hot to get this ITask NG thing installed which needed
the Bling module to be enabled. I've enabled Bling, and it worked great,
until I rebooted. Entrance now begins to start, but locks up in a looping
cycle of flashing a gray background at me for less than half a second, then
the screen goes dead for a couple seconds, then it flashes again. In the
gray screen I can see the cursor ' X ' , but it is unresponsive. The
keyboard is also unresponsive (I can't switch to a different shell and try
to kill Entrance) and I must reboot. I can boot into single-user mode, and
have tried to uninstall the Bling module to see if that helps, but the
dependancy chain is complicated and wants me to uninstall the e17 virtual
packages as well, leaving me unEnlightened. I cannot start enlightenment
manually (using #startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start) as it segfaults
immediately, presenting me with the "This is very bad..." message, and
cannot Recover. Is there a way to disable this module, or prevent it from
being loaded? I've tried clearing the .cfg files in my user folder, but that
has not been effective. Even better, is there a way to convince Bling to not
crash? The bit of it that I saw was nice and shiney, and I'd like to keep it
:D

Thanks!


Dan
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Re: [e-users] turn off Bling?

2007-06-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:08:09 -0600 "Dan Kronstal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:

entrance has nothing to do with bling. it's for e17. bling wont be touched,
looked at loaded or run until e17 starts. you have some other problem on your
hands. somethng much deeper - like some shared lib that e apps use (evas, edje,
ecore, eet, or something) has been screwed maybe?

> Hello everyone.
> I have e17 installed from Debian packages onto an Etch netinst. Things were
> grand, and I was all hot to get this ITask NG thing installed which needed
> the Bling module to be enabled. I've enabled Bling, and it worked great,
> until I rebooted. Entrance now begins to start, but locks up in a looping
> cycle of flashing a gray background at me for less than half a second, then
> the screen goes dead for a couple seconds, then it flashes again. In the
> gray screen I can see the cursor ' X ' , but it is unresponsive. The
> keyboard is also unresponsive (I can't switch to a different shell and try
> to kill Entrance) and I must reboot. I can boot into single-user mode, and
> have tried to uninstall the Bling module to see if that helps, but the
> dependancy chain is complicated and wants me to uninstall the e17 virtual
> packages as well, leaving me unEnlightened. I cannot start enlightenment
> manually (using #startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start) as it segfaults
> immediately, presenting me with the "This is very bad..." message, and
> cannot Recover. Is there a way to disable this module, or prevent it from
> being loaded? I've tried clearing the .cfg files in my user folder, but that
> has not been effective. Even better, is there a way to convince Bling to not
> crash? The bit of it that I saw was nice and shiney, and I'd like to keep it
> :D
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Dan
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Re: [e-users] turn off Bling?

2007-06-21 Thread Michael Jones
Dan - It's not bling causing the problem.   I've had the exact same
problem before, and I've never used
the bling module.

Some history here...  When I first installed e17 on this machine,
everything worked fine.  Then I did an update, and
got this problem where e17 won't load from Entrance.  I just stopped
using Entrance for some time, reinstalled it a few weeks later
and it worked fine... but broke the next time I updated again.

I just recently (last week) reinstalled Entrance again, and now it's
working great.  I've never been able to find out exactly what
the cause is, though.

- Mike

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:08:09 -0600 "Dan Kronstal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> babbled:
>
> entrance has nothing to do with bling. it's for e17. bling wont be touched,
> looked at loaded or run until e17 starts. you have some other problem on your
> hands. somethng much deeper - like some shared lib that e apps use (evas, 
> edje,
> ecore, eet, or something) has been screwed maybe?
>
>   
>> Hello everyone.
>> I have e17 installed from Debian packages onto an Etch netinst. Things were
>> grand, and I was all hot to get this ITask NG thing installed which needed
>> the Bling module to be enabled. I've enabled Bling, and it worked great,
>> until I rebooted. Entrance now begins to start, but locks up in a looping
>> cycle of flashing a gray background at me for less than half a second, then
>> the screen goes dead for a couple seconds, then it flashes again. In the
>> gray screen I can see the cursor ' X ' , but it is unresponsive. The
>> keyboard is also unresponsive (I can't switch to a different shell and try
>> to kill Entrance) and I must reboot. I can boot into single-user mode, and
>> have tried to uninstall the Bling module to see if that helps, but the
>> dependancy chain is complicated and wants me to uninstall the e17 virtual
>> packages as well, leaving me unEnlightened. I cannot start enlightenment
>> manually (using #startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start) as it segfaults
>> immediately, presenting me with the "This is very bad..." message, and
>> cannot Recover. Is there a way to disable this module, or prevent it from
>> being loaded? I've tried clearing the .cfg files in my user folder, but that
>> has not been effective. Even better, is there a way to convince Bling to not
>> crash? The bit of it that I saw was nice and shiney, and I'd like to keep it
>> :D
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Dan
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Re: [e-users] turn off Bling?

2007-06-21 Thread Hannes Janetzek
bling is not needed for itask-ng. have  you tried it with xcompmgr or
kompmgr?

though i still hope that bling is developed further(and
fixed), but perhaps i should remove it from the wiki for now, since
it's not really useable here too.

--
Hannes


Am Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:08:09 -0600
schrieb "Dan Kronstal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hello everyone.
> I have e17 installed from Debian packages onto an Etch netinst.
> Things were grand, and I was all hot to get this ITask NG thing
> installed which needed the Bling module to be enabled. I've enabled
> Bling, and it worked great, until I rebooted. Entrance now begins to
> start, but locks up in a looping cycle of flashing a gray background
> at me for less than half a second, then the screen goes dead for a
> couple seconds, then it flashes again. In the gray screen I can see
> the cursor ' X ' , but it is unresponsive. The keyboard is also
> unresponsive (I can't switch to a different shell and try to kill
> Entrance) and I must reboot. I can boot into single-user mode, and
> have tried to uninstall the Bling module to see if that helps, but
> the dependancy chain is complicated and wants me to uninstall the e17
> virtual packages as well, leaving me unEnlightened. I cannot start
> enlightenment manually (using #startx /usr/bin/enlightenment_start)
> as it segfaults immediately, presenting me with the "This is very
> bad..." message, and cannot Recover. Is there a way to disable this
> module, or prevent it from being loaded? I've tried clearing the .cfg
> files in my user folder, but that has not been effective. Even
> better, is there a way to convince Bling to not crash? The bit of it
> that I saw was nice and shiney, and I'd like to keep it :D
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Dan
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Re: [e-users] turn off Bling?

2007-06-21 Thread Daniel Kasak
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 13:08 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote:

> Hello everyone.
> I have e17 installed from Debian packages onto an Etch netinst. Things were
> grand, and I was all hot to get this ITask NG thing installed which needed
> the Bling module to be enabled. I've enabled Bling, and it worked great,
> until I rebooted. Entrance now begins to start, but locks up in a looping
> cycle of flashing a gray background at me for less than half a second, then
> the screen goes dead for a couple seconds, then it flashes again.

I hit this problem this morning too, after updating. I also tried
uninstalling bling & itask-ng, but the problem wasn't in there. Remove
your .e folder and set things up again.

Dan


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