Re: [e-users] Problem with freqset disabled power options

2014-01-02 Thread Massimo Maiurana
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman), il 02/01/2014 00:58, ha scritto:
 On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 21:45:45 +0100 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com said:
 
 Michael Vara, il 01/01/2014 20:12, ha scritto:
 Hello,

 After upgading my debian installation to jessie/testing (from wheezy) i
 noticed that the hibernate/suspend/poweroff/reboot options under the menu
 are disabled.

 I had the same problem some time ago in jessie, switching from sysvinit
 to systemd did the trick.
 
 systemd works because enlightenment_sys is no longer needed for
 shutdown/reboot/suspend/hibernate - systemd dbus daemon services are detected
 at runtime and if found, used instead of the e_sys setuid wrapper.

Well, actually my problem was not the same as Michael's because I didn't
have suspend/poweroff/etc disabled, they just didn't work anymore at
some point and I didn't found why. When I tried to poweroff my pc all
client were stopped but no halt was issued.

As i said, i switched to systemd and all worked again (now I see why),
and I also got rid of the annoying bell at shutdown which I've never
been able to shut up :)

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Re: [e-users] Working on a simple EFL Task Manager

2014-01-02 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Jan 2014 23:01:42 -0200 Wido wido...@gmail.com said:

 Mmm, i have 2 different ideas
 * make it work with systray

 hell no. not to mention nothing in efl supports making systray icons/apps...
 and we want to keepit that way. thank god! :)

I'm impressed how you ignore things you didn't write. Yes we do, and
there is an example for that in elementary_test Systray Icon. See
https://git.enlightenment.org/core/elementary.git/tree/src/lib/elm_systray_eo.h
It uses the new dbus protocol by KDE.

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Re: [e-users] Working on a simple EFL Task Manager

2014-01-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:09:42 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@gmail.com
said:

 On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
 wrote:
  On Wed, 1 Jan 2014 23:01:42 -0200 Wido wido...@gmail.com said:
 
  Mmm, i have 2 different ideas
  * make it work with systray
 
  hell no. not to mention nothing in efl supports making systray icons/apps...
  and we want to keepit that way. thank god! :)
 
 I'm impressed how you ignore things you didn't write. Yes we do, and
 there is an example for that in elementary_test Systray Icon. See
 https://git.enlightenment.org/core/elementary.git/tree/src/lib/elm_systray_eo.h
 It uses the new dbus protocol by KDE.

i'm referring to the original systray protocol - the new stuff which is not as
universally supported as the original. thats what everyone really calls
systray.

your snarkiness doesn't help.

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Re: [e-users] Working on a simple EFL Task Manager

2014-01-02 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
:-)

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Sent from my iPhone

 On 02/01/2014, at 12:11, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) 
 ras...@rasterman.com wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:09:42 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri 
 barbi...@gmail.com
 said:
 
 On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
 wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Jan 2014 23:01:42 -0200 Wido wido...@gmail.com said:
 
 Mmm, i have 2 different ideas
 * make it work with systray
 
 hell no. not to mention nothing in efl supports making systray icons/apps...
 and we want to keepit that way. thank god! :)
 
 I'm impressed how you ignore things you didn't write. Yes we do, and
 there is an example for that in elementary_test Systray Icon. See
 https://git.enlightenment.org/core/elementary.git/tree/src/lib/elm_systray_eo.h
 It uses the new dbus protocol by KDE.
 
 i'm referring to the original systray protocol - the new stuff which is not as
 universally supported as the original. thats what everyone really calls
 systray.
 
 your snarkiness doesn't help.
 
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Re: [e-users] Problem with freqset disabled power options

2014-01-02 Thread Michael Vara
Oh now that was embarassing. I thought i had erased all e17 libraries when
i upgaded to e18 but there was a sneaky libeina.1.7.9 left under directory
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu, a directory which is included in the
/etc/ld.so.conf.d/i486-linux-gnu.conf file. I guess jessie changed
something and the system looked first at /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu for the
requested libraries and picked the 1.7.9 version.
Many thanks for your help and also congrats to the people responsible for
terminology, it rocks :)


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:10 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:


 for whatever reason enlightenment_sys for YOU is not linked to eina or
 somehow
 symbols have been removed in your eina lib (_eina_log_state_shutdown was
 added
 march 2013 ... so LONG LONG LONG before efl 1.8 was out).

 check with ldd - but it should be linked to eina too as eo won't work
 without
 eina anyway... and eo itself should  be linked to eina:

 $ ldd /usr/local/lib/libeo.so.1
 linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7c1fa000)
 libeina.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libeina.so.1 (0x7f032173)
 libm.so.6 = /usr/lib/libm.so.6 (0x7f03213fe000)
 libdl.so.2 = /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7f03211fa000)
 librt.so.1 = /usr/lib/librt.so.1 (0x7f0320ff1000)
 libpthread.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7f0320dd3000)
 libc.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc.so.6 (0x7f0320a28000)
 /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0030)

 $ ldd /usr/local/lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys
 linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7fffa3446000)
 libecore.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libecore.so.1 (0x7fa8e4223000)
 libgthread-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0
 (0x7fa8e3ff2000)libglib-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
 (0x7fa8e3cf2000) libeo.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libeo.so.1
 (0x7fa8e3ade000) libeina.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libeina.so.1
 (0x7fa8e3883000) libdl.so.2 = /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7fa8e367f000)
 librt.so.1 = /usr/lib/librt.so.1 (0x7fa8e3476000) libpthread.so.0
 = /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7fa8e3258000) libm.so.6
 = /usr/lib/libm.so.6 (0x7fa8e2f55000) libbluetooth.so.3
 = /usr/lib/libbluetooth.so.3 (0x7fa8e2d36000) libpam.so.0
 = /usr/lib/libpam.so.0 (0x7fa8e2b28000) libc.so.6 =
 /usr/lib/libc.so.6
 (0x7fa8e277d000) libpcre.so.1 = /usr/lib/libpcre.so.1
 (0x7fa8e2516000)
 /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 = /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
 (0x0030)

 whatever has happened - something has gone wrong seeming at build time or
 packaging... as your libeo i guess is not linked against eina... OR if it
 is,
 the eina lib u have predates march 2013... which means its not efl 1.8...
 (maybe you have multiple eina libs installed? how have you gotten away with
 that? well multiple eina libs in different dirs? it's possible to do but
 with
 great care and frankly if you are asking these questions here... you're
 not the
 right person to be maintaining multiple instances of efl (eina or other
 things)
 across multiple dirs on your system as you'd know you have them and know
 how to
 make them work. :)).


  thanks
  Michael
 
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Re: [e-users] Problem with freqset disabled power options

2014-01-02 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 20:14:36 +0200 Michael Vara mvar@gmail.com said:

 Oh now that was embarassing. I thought i had erased all e17 libraries when
 i upgaded to e18 but there was a sneaky libeina.1.7.9 left under directory
 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu, a directory which is included in the
 /etc/ld.so.conf.d/i486-linux-gnu.conf file. I guess jessie changed
 something and the system looked first at /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu for the
 requested libraries and picked the 1.7.9 version.
 Many thanks for your help and also congrats to the people responsible for
 terminology, it rocks :)

aha! the multiple lib install bites... yet again. year after year people
shuffle by with e/efl doesn't build/work/is broken comments and time and time
again it's something like this. multiple lib installs, old headers or people
going nuts with --enable/--disable etc. and using configuration combinations we
just never test. that's why we have been steadily removing build options and
making it harder to diverge. :) this is a note to everyone... if you have
problems .. like this - stuff that is so stinkingly obviously broken and not
working, there is a HIGH chance the problem is pebkac (problem exists between
keyboard and chair). look for this kind of mess - multiple installs. and stop
thinking i know there is nothing. brute force search:

find / -print | grep libeina.so

(same for libevas.so, libeet.so, libedje.so etc. etc.). same for the header
files. brute-force hunt them down. stuff in your build trees etc. won't matter
but stuff that may be found by ld.so does. also remember setuid binaries IGNORE
LD_PRELOAD and LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment vars for security reasons. so don't
think that these magically solve everything. :)

(in the following you is generic not specific to any special person)

and if you are hyper-customizing with configure options... stop! just stop.
read the README. it suggests SOME options you may need or want - stick to
those. stop using xcb thinking it's amazingly better than xlib. it isn't. it's
much more painful, long-winded and not tested with things like opengl (in fact
doesn't work so we have to use a combo of xcb and xlib and that won't be tested
by driver maintainers etc.). stop with the USE flags for customizing every
minute aspect of an efl build. you think you are being clever. you are not.
trust me. the very few people and use cases for such customizing know what they
are doing - you do not. (only mess with configure flags that are not in the
recommended list if you KNOW the code they affect and HOW, WHY etc. and YOU can
actually hack on that code yourself and understand it. that is why i say that
you do not know).

hopefully this advice prompts some people to fix their packaging or build
scripts or whatever... and perhaps some people will finally have a better more
working experience as a result. :)

 On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 2:10 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
 
 
  for whatever reason enlightenment_sys for YOU is not linked to eina or
  somehow
  symbols have been removed in your eina lib (_eina_log_state_shutdown was
  added
  march 2013 ... so LONG LONG LONG before efl 1.8 was out).
 
  check with ldd - but it should be linked to eina too as eo won't work
  without
  eina anyway... and eo itself should  be linked to eina:
 
  $ ldd /usr/local/lib/libeo.so.1
  linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7c1fa000)
  libeina.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libeina.so.1 (0x7f032173)
  libm.so.6 = /usr/lib/libm.so.6 (0x7f03213fe000)
  libdl.so.2 = /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7f03211fa000)
  librt.so.1 = /usr/lib/librt.so.1 (0x7f0320ff1000)
  libpthread.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7f0320dd3000)
  libc.so.6 = /usr/lib/libc.so.6 (0x7f0320a28000)
  /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x0030)
 
  $ ldd /usr/local/lib/enlightenment/utils/enlightenment_sys
  linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7fffa3446000)
  libecore.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libecore.so.1 (0x7fa8e4223000)
  libgthread-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0
  (0x7fa8e3ff2000)libglib-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
  (0x7fa8e3cf2000) libeo.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libeo.so.1
  (0x7fa8e3ade000) libeina.so.1 = /usr/local/lib/libeina.so.1
  (0x7fa8e3883000) libdl.so.2 = /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7fa8e367f000)
  librt.so.1 = /usr/lib/librt.so.1 (0x7fa8e3476000) libpthread.so.0
  = /usr/lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7fa8e3258000) libm.so.6
  = /usr/lib/libm.so.6 (0x7fa8e2f55000) libbluetooth.so.3
  = /usr/lib/libbluetooth.so.3 (0x7fa8e2d36000) libpam.so.0
  = /usr/lib/libpam.so.0 (0x7fa8e2b28000) libc.so.6 =
  /usr/lib/libc.so.6
  (0x7fa8e277d000) libpcre.so.1 = /usr/lib/libpcre.so.1
  (0x7fa8e2516000)
  /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 = /usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
  (0x0030)
 
  whatever has happened - something has gone wrong seeming at build time or
  packaging... as your