Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Emotion Media Center 1.0 first beta is out
Huhu, you did what' we never finished with enna and it's really awesome ! Great job :D Now i have only one thing in head try it on a rpi or cubieboard to see if it's better than xbmc ! 2014-08-03 2:06 GMT+02:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:55:17 +0200 Davide Andreoli d...@gurumeditation.it said: i have to say... this is rather awesome. Hi all, the first beta release of EpyMC is waiting for you !! This is the result of many years of development, I hope you will enjoy the result as I enjoined the development. The code is hosted at Github: https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc Direct download link for this release: https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc/archive/v1.0.0-beta1.tar.gz On the Github wiki you will find all the needed instructions for installing and using the media center, along with screenshots and screencasts. I'm planning to roll out the final 1.0 release in 7/10 days, please let me know of any issue you encounter with this first release. Happy testing davemds -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Nicolas Aguirre Mail: aguirre.nico...@gmail.com Web: http://enna.geexbox.org Blog: http://dev.enlightenment.fr/~captainigloo/ -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] econnman error
Just checked, connman.net is up and reachable, at least on https. There is only one difference in connmanctl properties with green and orange dot: green = State = online orange = State = ready Which is odd, as I'm actually online in both cases. Anyway it is definitely a connman issue, the gadget just reflects what connman says. Massimo Maiurana, il 02/08/2014 18:19, ha scritto: Makes sense. I'll check that also. Kai Huuhko, il 02/08/2014 17:35, ha scritto: likely connman.net server down or too busy to respond 2014-08-02 17:21 GMT+03:00 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com: David Seikel, il 02/08/2014 16:04, ha scritto: But in my case internet does work even when I see the orange dot, because routes are correctly configurated, dns ip's are available, all that should be configured via dhcp is indeed configured. That's why I wonder what it's missing, because apparently it's all there. Just coz DHCP worked, doesn't mean the rest of the Internet works. Maybe the DHCP supplied configuration is wrong? Maybe there's a firewall in the way of those checks? Or maybe it's just that these checks of connman.net are failing due to some other external issue? What could be at the same time wrong and allowing me to surf the internet in every way? That's my own router I connect to, and it gives to my wlan0: - an ip address, and of course a netmask - a default route - one dns address (its own) Looks like it's all that is needed to connect to the whole world. I'll compare the output from connmanctl when the dot is green and when it's orange, just to see if there are differences. -- Massimo Maiurana Ragusa (RG) -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Massimo Maiurana Ragusa (RG) -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Emotion Media Center 1.0 first beta is out
2014-08-03 10:06 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Aguirre aguirre.nico...@gmail.com: Huhu, you did what' we never finished with enna and it's really awesome ! yep, I've done it :P Great job :D Now i have only one thing in head try it on a rpi or cubieboard to see if it's better than xbmc ! Raspberry is also my final goal! Xbmc has been optimized to use all the hw of the pi, it do opengl and also use hardware video decoding... not really easy to beat. Evas with Opengl ES on the rpi should be doable, just some mess with their driver, but should be compatible. Last time I tried I got blocked on trying to let evas compile with gl/es enabled For hw decoding I read that gstreamer1.0 has a rpi backend, so probably is possible to use. Atm rasbian comes with gstreamer0.10, so we should build it from sources. Let me know if you make some work/progress on this 2014-08-03 2:06 GMT+02:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:55:17 +0200 Davide Andreoli d...@gurumeditation.it said: i have to say... this is rather awesome. Hi all, the first beta release of EpyMC is waiting for you !! This is the result of many years of development, I hope you will enjoy the result as I enjoined the development. The code is hosted at Github: https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc Direct download link for this release: https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc/archive/v1.0.0-beta1.tar.gz On the Github wiki you will find all the needed instructions for installing and using the media center, along with screenshots and screencasts. I'm planning to roll out the final 1.0 release in 7/10 days, please let me know of any issue you encounter with this first release. Happy testing davemds -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Nicolas Aguirre Mail: aguirre.nico...@gmail.com Web: http://enna.geexbox.org Blog: http://dev.enlightenment.fr/~captainigloo/ -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] econnman error
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 10:25:57 +0200 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com said: Just checked, connman.net is up and reachable, at least on https. There is only one difference in connmanctl properties with green and orange dot: green = State = online orange = State = ready Which is odd, as I'm actually online in both cases. Anyway it is definitely a connman issue, the gadget just reflects what connman says. correct. and as i understand it connman figures this out when it dhcp's - if at that time it doesn't work for whatever reason - you get orange. if it works, you get green. remember his is AT the time dhcp comes up - there may be a race condition where things don't route for the first few milliseconds or something - i don't know. you need to see what the issues is AT this exact point in time on the connman daemon end. Massimo Maiurana, il 02/08/2014 18:19, ha scritto: Makes sense. I'll check that also. Kai Huuhko, il 02/08/2014 17:35, ha scritto: likely connman.net server down or too busy to respond 2014-08-02 17:21 GMT+03:00 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com: David Seikel, il 02/08/2014 16:04, ha scritto: But in my case internet does work even when I see the orange dot, because routes are correctly configurated, dns ip's are available, all that should be configured via dhcp is indeed configured. That's why I wonder what it's missing, because apparently it's all there. Just coz DHCP worked, doesn't mean the rest of the Internet works. Maybe the DHCP supplied configuration is wrong? Maybe there's a firewall in the way of those checks? Or maybe it's just that these checks of connman.net are failing due to some other external issue? What could be at the same time wrong and allowing me to surf the internet in every way? That's my own router I connect to, and it gives to my wlan0: - an ip address, and of course a netmask - a default route - one dns address (its own) Looks like it's all that is needed to connect to the whole world. I'll compare the output from connmanctl when the dot is green and when it's orange, just to see if there are differences. -- Massimo Maiurana Ragusa (RG) -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Massimo Maiurana Ragusa (RG) -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Emotion Media Center 1.0 first beta is out
hey what a great work here ! some thoughts/ideas Is the webserver wire compliant with xbmc ? so you could benefits from all xbmc apps (like yatse) to remote control it from your coutch. One of the common issue with all mediaserver softwares it that there are no backend/frontend separation. But the backend is basically the same problem for everyone, the frontend differs in its implementation (EFL/xbmc/...). This could merge efforts on the backend side with all networking/sharing/stuff and each project implements its frontend. The success for a project like this is to be embedded in a distro (like openelec for xbmc). Being wire compatible, you could be an alternative integrated into openelec. Keep the good work :) On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Davide Andreoli d...@gurumeditation.it wrote: Hi all, the first beta release of EpyMC is waiting for you !! This is the result of many years of development, I hope you will enjoy the result as I enjoined the development. The code is hosted at Github: https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc Direct download link for this release: https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc/archive/v1.0.0-beta1.tar.gz On the Github wiki you will find all the needed instructions for installing and using the media center, along with screenshots and screencasts. I'm planning to roll out the final 1.0 release in 7/10 days, please let me know of any issue you encounter with this first release. Happy testing davemds -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] econnman error
No, its not. Everything else (icon in shelf) seems to work fine. Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/econnman-bin, line 19, in module import efl.evas as evas File efl.evas.pyx, line 1, in init efl.evas (efl/evas/efl.evas.c:116585) ImportError: /usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/efl/eo.cpython-34m.so: undefined symbol: eo_event_freeze_get During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/econnman-bin, line 46, in module import elementary as elm File /usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/elementary/__init__.py, line 2, in module from efl.elementary.actionslider import * File /usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/efl/elementary/__init__.py, line 19, in module from efl.elementary.general import * File general.pyx, line 1, in init efl.elementary.general (efl/elementary/general.c:7106) File __init__.pyx, line 1, in init efl.ecore.__init__ (efl/ecore/__init__.c:36934) ImportError: /usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/efl/eo.cpython-34m.so: undefined symbol: eo_event_freeze_get On 31 July 2014 10:20, Kai Huuhko kai.huu...@gmail.com wrote: If it's the same error that Massimo got, use: make clean and then make and make install. If the error is different you need to let us know what the error is. The logging will output to stdout so run econnman-bin from a terminal. 2014-07-31 11:13 GMT+03:00 Lino E. Urdiales Matus modjov...@gmail.com: I'm still getting an error with econnman. I updated it yesterday to see if it got better but it didn't. It won't produce any logs so I have no idea how to debug it. Any suggestions? On 29 July 2014 15:49, Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com wrote: With a recent git version of econnman I get this: Traceback (most recent call last): File /opt/e17/bin/econnman-bin, line 56, in module from pnac import PNACConfig ImportError: No module named pnac The directory is in PYTHONPATH as always: max@rubino:~$ env | grep PYTHON PYTHONPATH=:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages Am I the only one facing this? -- Massimo Maiurana Ragusa (RG) -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- We don't rest in peace, we just disappear -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] New .deb packages of E18 for Debian stable (wheezy)
I made some new e18 packages for Debian wheezy. Information is at http://www.vin-dit.org. I've been using them constantly for a couple weeks with great results. If you want to give them a try just follow the instructions at that web page. Please let me know if you run into any problems. Thanks! -- John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org gpg public key ID 0x9551CF2D -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Emotion Media Center 1.0 first beta is out
2014-08-03 12:43 GMT+02:00 Steven@e ste...@enlightenment.org: hey what a great work here ! some thoughts/ideas Is the webserver wire compliant with xbmc ? so you could benefits from all xbmc apps (like yatse) to remote control it from your coutch. no, it is not compatible, for the moment it just serve a (skinnable) html page that simulate a remote (play, pause, etc). So it is usable by any device with a webrowser. I dont know how the xbmc one work, if the protocol is simple then it can be easily implemented in epymc. One of the common issue with all mediaserver softwares it that there are no backend/frontend separation. But the backend is basically the same problem for everyone, the frontend differs in its implementation (EFL/xbmc/...). This could merge efforts on the backend side with all networking/sharing/stuff and each project implements its frontend. epymc is not in any way a mediaserver, is more a mediaclient :) The success for a project like this is to be embedded in a distro (like openelec for xbmc). Being wire compatible, you could be an alternative integrated into openelec. Indeed, I was looking for an integration in openelec, but its a quite big task, someone else should do this Keep the good work :) On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Davide Andreoli d...@gurumeditation.it wrote: Hi all, the first beta release of EpyMC is waiting for you !! This is the result of many years of development, I hope you will enjoy the result as I enjoined the development. The code is hosted at Github: https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc Direct download link for this release: https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc/archive/v1.0.0-beta1.tar.gz On the Github wiki you will find all the needed instructions for installing and using the media center, along with screenshots and screencasts. I'm planning to roll out the final 1.0 release in 7/10 days, please let me know of any issue you encounter with this first release. Happy testing davemds -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] econnman error
2014-08-03 12:55 GMT+02:00 Lino E. Urdiales Matus lino.urdia...@gmail.com: No, its not. Everything else (icon in shelf) seems to work fine. Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/econnman-bin, line 19, in module import efl.evas as evas File efl.evas.pyx, line 1, in init efl.evas (efl/evas/efl.evas.c:116585) ImportError: /usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/efl/eo.cpython-34m.so: undefined symbol: eo_event_freeze_get This is another problem, related to the econnman python app, they where speaking about the e gadget... always confusing that separation. btw, I think your error is caused by python-efl not being in sync with efl, please try to update both and see if the error persist. During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/econnman-bin, line 46, in module import elementary as elm File /usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/elementary/__init__.py, line 2, in module from efl.elementary.actionslider import * File /usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/efl/elementary/__init__.py, line 19, in module from efl.elementary.general import * File general.pyx, line 1, in init efl.elementary.general (efl/elementary/general.c:7106) File __init__.pyx, line 1, in init efl.ecore.__init__ (efl/ecore/__init__.c:36934) ImportError: /usr/lib/python3.4/site-packages/efl/eo.cpython-34m.so: undefined symbol: eo_event_freeze_get On 31 July 2014 10:20, Kai Huuhko kai.huu...@gmail.com wrote: If it's the same error that Massimo got, use: make clean and then make and make install. If the error is different you need to let us know what the error is. The logging will output to stdout so run econnman-bin from a terminal. 2014-07-31 11:13 GMT+03:00 Lino E. Urdiales Matus modjov...@gmail.com: I'm still getting an error with econnman. I updated it yesterday to see if it got better but it didn't. It won't produce any logs so I have no idea how to debug it. Any suggestions? On 29 July 2014 15:49, Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com wrote: With a recent git version of econnman I get this: Traceback (most recent call last): File /opt/e17/bin/econnman-bin, line 56, in module from pnac import PNACConfig ImportError: No module named pnac The directory is in PYTHONPATH as always: max@rubino:~$ env | grep PYTHON PYTHONPATH=:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages:/opt/e17/lib/python2.7/site-packages Am I the only one facing this? -- Massimo Maiurana Ragusa (RG) -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- We don't rest in peace, we just disappear -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Want fast and easy access to all
Re: [e-users] econnman error
Davide Andreoli, il 03/08/2014 21:18, ha scritto: This is another problem, related to the econnman python app, they where speaking about the e gadget... always confusing that separation. Actually the original thread was about econnman, at some point I've basically hijacked it to talk about the E gadget :) -- Massimo Maiurana Ragusa (RG) -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to make enlightenment more battery friendly?
ok some numbers - this is intel driver, gl, with partial rendering enabled and 1 window with a spinny busy animation: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53d89ef1d9efe3.65777916.png 5% cpu with 1 window having a busy spinner. gl engine for compositor. perf says this is how cpu usage is distributed within the enlightenment process: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53d89f67eb5bb6.40053571.png now if we turn partial update off (i forced it on above, as opposed to default auto which detects buffer age extension automatically and uses the correct info from gl). http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53d8a020545aa4.08083375.png 19% cpu now. 4x as much. with profile of: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53d8a07f6fc960.37155853.png note these numbers are about 15-20% higher (17 vs 20% cpu) because i'm runing a perf top at 5 hz - this seems to raise cpu usage by about 15-20% for processes. so drop back down by that for normal situations. either way - as you can see. partial rendering uses 1/4 or so the cpu of re-rendering everything. the optimization is already there and done - if the driver supports it, it's automatically used without further ado. if not - you get full redraws every frame. this means evas walks a lot more canvas content, generates a lot more geometry etc. etc. we already have the optimizations there, but the extension support is not. even the people behind the extension we use don't implement it. their major gpu competitor does though. on glx anyway. you can try egl+gles and see if it's there. i'm not sure. but that will drop your cpu usage a lot. i am actually ASSUMING and expecting this will happen - or eventually will. you're getting a slow path atm due to drivers. the cpu use in canvas walking as before (the top 1 items) is a matter of a canvas render rewrite of 10 year old code. i have started with some skeleton code but getting time to do it is tough. a simpler theme will help little (especially with gl). if i get some time, i'll try find a way to add some numbers or debug to track # of triangles per frame and put an older e17 install in to collect them - better yet even to draw outlines of the triangles too and get a screenshot so you can see how we drive geometry differently. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e-aigu in terminology, and e18 now breaks Multi?
(moving this back to the list) Raster, is it possible that your patch breaks Multi except in e and terminology? Since I upgraded to the newer e18, Multi doesn't work anywhere except in efl apps it seems (see below) On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 06:55:32PM -0400, John Holland wrote: In some kind of terminal, run xev. Put the mouse cursor in the xev window. Type The Altgr By Itself And In The Terminal YOU Should Get Output That Gives YOU The keycode. I am just using right-alt, maybe altgr is a different code. Pardon my capitalization I'm typing this on a phone. Adjust X mod map statement accordingly. I am actually very naive about xmodmap, was just learning about it this morning. Forgive me if I'm telling you things that you already know. I kind of did, but it never hurts to check :) (also I learned that stuff some 18 years ago, so maybe some if it changed since then) This is what my right alt gives with xev KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x741, root 0xb2, subw 0x0, time 358231354, (27,120), root:(716,1557), state 0x0, keycode 108 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x741, root 0xb2, subw 0x0, time 358231424, (27,120), root:(716,1557), state 0x2000, keycode 108 (keysym 0xffe8, Meta_R), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False This is very spooky, I get Mode_switch on press and Meta_R on release. Whoa, how does that make sense? Just curious, do you get this when you launch terminology? ERR24256:ecore_x lib/ecore_x/xlib/ecore_x.c:301 _ecore_x_modifiers_get() ALTGR conflicts with other modifiers. IGNORE ALTGR I see this even when when I have 108 set to ALT_R and not Multi. Raster, is that normal? John, do you see this too? More annoyingly, I also noticed that with 108 = Mode_switch, I can type é in a terminat, chrome, firefox, just not terminology. But it gets more weird. Right Ctrl (code 105) is set to multi: KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x741, root 0xb2, subw 0x0, time 358486116, (121,75), root:(810,1512), state 0x4, keycode 105 (keysym 0xff20, Multi_key), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False I have keycode 26 = e E eacute egrave ecircumflex ediaeresis ecircumflex ediaeresis And ctrl+ + e does not give ë anymore, except in terminology and inside e18 What is going on? Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 1024R/763BE901 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to make enlightenment more battery friendly?
On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 07:29:59AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: ok some numbers - this is intel driver, gl, with partial rendering enabled and 1 window with a spinny busy animation: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53d89ef1d9efe3.65777916.png 5% cpu with 1 window having a busy spinner. gl engine for compositor. perf says this is how cpu usage is distributed within the enlightenment process: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53d89f67eb5bb6.40053571.png Interesting. Just curious, how do you turn on partial rendering? Is that in composite/rendering? Also, I looked in advanced/power managemnt How do you tell e which level it should be using? 19% cpu now. 4x as much. with profile of: http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53d8a07f6fc960.37155853.png note these numbers are about 15-20% higher (17 vs 20% cpu) because i'm runing a perf top at 5 hz - this seems to raise cpu usage by about 15-20% for processes. so drop back down by that for normal situations. either way - as you can see. partial rendering uses 1/4 or so the cpu of re-rendering everything. the optimization is already there and done - if the Very interesting find, thanks for sharing. Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 1024R/763BE901 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] How to make enlightenment more battery friendly?
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:01:21 -0700 Marc MERLIN marc_...@merlins.org said:
On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 07:29:59AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
ok some numbers - this is intel driver, gl, with partial rendering enabled
and 1 window with a spinny busy animation:
http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53d89ef1d9efe3.65777916.png
5% cpu with 1 window having a busy spinner. gl engine for compositor. perf
says this is how cpu usage is distributed within the enlightenment process:
http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53d89f67eb5bb6.40053571.png
Interesting.
Just curious, how do you turn on partial rendering?
comp settings - in advanced under rendering - that's turning it on manually
ignoring what the driver actualy does. - you may end up with flickering and
bugs as the driver sometimes re-orders buffer and evas then has no idea. it's
automatic by default in evas if you have the right extensions. as i also
mentioned egl/gles may support it where glx does not on intel - so go rebuild
evas for gles and see. (mesa offers glx and egl/gles).
Is that in composite/rendering?
Also, I looked in advanced/power managemnt
How do you tell e which level it should be using?
leave that alone.
19% cpu now. 4x as much. with profile of:
http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53d8a07f6fc960.37155853.png
note these numbers are about 15-20% higher (17 vs 20% cpu) because i'm
runing a perf top at 5 hz - this seems to raise cpu usage by about
15-20% for processes. so drop back down by that for normal situations.
either way - as you can see. partial rendering uses 1/4 or so the cpu of
re-rendering everything. the optimization is already there and done - if the
Very interesting find, thanks for sharing.
Marc
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Emotion Media Center 1.0 first beta is out
Hi! I sounds awesome, I was thinking in enna, what a shame it never made it (Sorry Nicolas, enna was awesome but it never catched up) I would like to give you a hand with spanish (latin american) translation and maybe, just maybe help you with the photo module. I would need some guidance, at least at the beginning, if you are ok with it =) 2014-08-03 12:41 GMT-03:00 Davide Andreoli d...@gurumeditation.it: 2014-08-03 12:43 GMT+02:00 Steven@e ste...@enlightenment.org: hey what a great work here ! some thoughts/ideas Is the webserver wire compliant with xbmc ? so you could benefits from all xbmc apps (like yatse) to remote control it from your coutch. no, it is not compatible, for the moment it just serve a (skinnable) html page that simulate a remote (play, pause, etc). So it is usable by any device with a webrowser. I dont know how the xbmc one work, if the protocol is simple then it can be easily implemented in epymc. One of the common issue with all mediaserver softwares it that there are no backend/frontend separation. But the backend is basically the same problem for everyone, the frontend differs in its implementation (EFL/xbmc/...). This could merge efforts on the backend side with all networking/sharing/stuff and each project implements its frontend. epymc is not in any way a mediaserver, is more a mediaclient :) The success for a project like this is to be embedded in a distro (like openelec for xbmc). Being wire compatible, you could be an alternative integrated into openelec. Indeed, I was looking for an integration in openelec, but its a quite big task, someone else should do this Keep the good work :) On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Davide Andreoli d...@gurumeditation.it wrote: Hi all, the first beta release of EpyMC is waiting for you !! This is the result of many years of development, I hope you will enjoy the result as I enjoined the development. The code is hosted at Github: https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc Direct download link for this release: https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc/archive/v1.0.0-beta1.tar.gz On the Github wiki you will find all the needed instructions for installing and using the media center, along with screenshots and screencasts. I'm planning to roll out the final 1.0 release in 7/10 days, please let me know of any issue you encounter with this first release. Happy testing davemds -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e-aigu in terminology, and e18 now breaks Multi?
éÉ - from Mode_switch/xmodmap èÈëËêÊ -- from setting Caps Lock to be Multi in the E settings and typing sequences like capslock,e,backtick as per Rasterman's message. Both of these methods are working for me in terminology and claws mail. The modmap things I found online seem to show that having more than 4 values for a key is not well supported, but your (Marc's) message had that tantalizing set of eight values for the e key. I don't see how to make that work though. It is not a priority for me but I wouldn't mind finding out how to do it. this is what I get when I start terminology (my computers are sometimes named after jazz musicians) jholland@herbie:~$ terminology ERR3699:ecore_x lib/ecore_x/xlib/ecore_x.c:301 _ecore_x_modifiers_get() ALTGR conflicts with other modifiers. IGNORE ALTGR John -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Emotion Media Center 1.0 first beta is out
Hi, great job! I had svn version of epymc but I can't even remember how it was because there were a lot of enhancements. Thanks to you. By the way, I have a couple of comments. 1. The icon and text sizes are too big compared with the default elementary theme with the default scalability. I had to manually scale it down to 0.5 to match it with default elementary theme from the general configuration panel. Is there a reason behind this? 2. Unfocused buttons look like disabled as its in a grey color. It will be great if you can adjust the colors. 3. Does it work with Joystick well? Then Cinoo needs to check this. Thanks. Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Davide Andreoli d...@gurumeditation.it wrote: Hi all, the first beta release of EpyMC is waiting for you !! This is the result of many years of development, I hope you will enjoy the result as I enjoined the development. The code is hosted at Github: https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc Direct download link for this release: https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc/archive/v1.0.0-beta1.tar.gz On the Github wiki you will find all the needed instructions for installing and using the media center, along with screenshots and screencasts. I'm planning to roll out the final 1.0 release in 7/10 days, please let me know of any issue you encounter with this first release. Happy testing davemds -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e-aigu in terminology, and e18 now breaks Multi?
On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 09:02:16AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: Since I upgraded to the newer e18, Multi doesn't work anywhere except in efl apps it seems (see below) multi key compose? no - it works. i use it regularly. as i said - i spent a lot Yes. It now works only in E and terminology for me. of time looking at this. the modifier masks for alt and altgr clash. they are indistinguishable from a client point of view. it's a misconfiguration of the modifier masks. So wait, did you say earlier the problem was with the X server (code?) or my configuration of xmodmap? I have this (default from xorg), should I change it? legolas:~$ xmodmap -pm xmodmap: up to 4 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) lockCaps_Lock (0x42) control Control_L (0x25), Multi_key (0x69) mod1Alt_L (0x40), Mode_switch (0x6c), Meta_L (0xcd) mod2Num_Lock (0x4d) mod3 mod4Super_L (0x85), Super_R (0x86), Super_L (0xce), Hyper_L (0xcf) mod5ISO_Level3_Shift (0x5c), BadKey (0xcb) Actually I'll attach my xmodmap dump so that you can tell me if I have something set wrong or if there is something wrong with my x server. More simply, if you can tell me what I should do to assign modeswitch to and multi to right alt and ctrl, I'll be happy to oblige :) I see this even when when I have 108 set to ALT_R and not Multi. err what do you mean by multi? there is an actual multi key. this is how you do compose sequences. ie: multi, e, ` == è multi, e, ' == é I have multi bound to right ctrl, it's worked like this for about 20 years. It still works with terminology and e, but nothing else now. I don't need multi for é since I can use mode_switch to hit right alt and e, but for ë I do use right ctrl e It still works in terminology, but nowhere else now. OMG, I ran a new xfce4-terminal, and now mode_switch and multi work in it, as well as all my existing xfce4-terminal windows. WTH? As the same time, mode_switch now broke in terminology, but multi still works in it. you get the above as per all my comments in the phab bug. i am repeating myself now endlessly. go read it. i explained it in detail. they way you have your keyboard working alt and altgr as modifiers conflict. they produce the SAME modifier mask. exactly the same. modifier state is a bitmask - with a bit on for the modifier. e dumps altgr if it conflicts with alt as it is not a separate modifier at all then, and that is what causes the problem with bindings as e can now not tell if its alt or altgr pressed, so it assumes both as they both match - otherwise it has to randomly guess which and that's worse. I understand that part, but I think I misunderstood you on where the bug is. I thought you meant the bug was in X, but now I think you're saying I have my modifiers set wrong in xmodmap, and that I can change of course. Note that I don't knowingly change my modifiers (xmodmap -pm that is, I did change the key mappings, aka xmodmap -pke) with xmodmap, I think that's what I get from X, but I'm happy to adjust them. xmodmap -e keycode 108 = Mode_switch Alt_R Meta_R Alt_R Meta_R I now simply have keycode 105 = Multi_key keycode 108 = Mode_switch Is that broken? doesn't even do anything for me in 2 apps as non-efl toolkit apps. so i don't even know what it's meant to do/make work... but it does nothing for other toolkits, and nothing for terminology or efl too. all it results in is a broken modifier mask mappping that i know have added code to work around. There is clearly something subtle going on since it's worked for me for years with everything all the way back to Xfree286, but I'm not attached to keeping in that way, I'm happy to change. Is it broken to assing Multi to 105 and Mode_switch to 108? On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 08:40:59PM -0400, John Holland wrote: éÉ - from Mode_switch/xmodmap èÈëËêÊ -- from setting Caps Lock to be Multi in the E settings and typing sequences like capslock,e,backtick as per Rasterman's message. Both of these methods are working for me in terminology and claws mail. The modmap things I found online seem to show that having more than 4 values for a key is not well supported, but your (Marc's) message had that tantalizing set of eight values for the e key. I don't see how to I don't set 8 values, but xmodmap -pke returns 8 values. this is what I get when I start terminology (my computers are sometimes named after jazz musicians) jholland@herbie:~$ terminology ERR3699:ecore_x lib/ecore_x/xlib/ecore_x.c:301 _ecore_x_modifiers_get() ALTGR conflicts with other modifiers. IGNORE ALTGR Ok, so you're also getting this conflict without my Xmodmap, but at least things seem to be working for you. Thanks for sharing. Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems what
Re: [e-users] e-aigu in terminology, and e18 now breaks Multi?
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:04:35 -0700 Marc MERLIN marc_...@merlins.org said: On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 09:02:16AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: Since I upgraded to the newer e18, Multi doesn't work anywhere except in efl apps it seems (see below) multi key compose? no - it works. i use it regularly. as i said - i spent a lot Yes. It now works only in E and terminology for me. it's directly supported in efl core - i believe for gtk, etc. you need input methods for this (scim/ibus/iimf etc.). i use those too, so it works there for me. in efl there is in fact a compiled-in table of all of the compose sequences for multi key. terminology uses that api to figure out your compose seq, and edje entries (which elm entry uses) do too. thus it worksin efl. of time looking at this. the modifier masks for alt and altgr clash. they are indistinguishable from a client point of view. it's a misconfiguration of the modifier masks. So wait, did you say earlier the problem was with the X server (code?) or my configuration of xmodmap? xmodmap creates a conflict of modifier maps with your setup. phab ticket has an explanation - as does the git commit log. I have this (default from xorg), should I change it? legolas:~$ xmodmap -pm xmodmap: up to 4 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) lockCaps_Lock (0x42) control Control_L (0x25), Multi_key (0x69) mod1Alt_L (0x40), Mode_switch (0x6c), Meta_L (0xcd) mod2Num_Lock (0x4d) mod3 mod4Super_L (0x85), Super_R (0x86), Super_L (0xce), Hyper_L (0xcf) mod5ISO_Level3_Shift (0x5c), BadKey (0xcb) Actually I'll attach my xmodmap dump so that you can tell me if I have something set wrong or if there is something wrong with my x server. More simply, if you can tell me what I should do to assign modeswitch to and multi to right alt and ctrl, I'll be happy to oblige :) as above. i don't know how to fix your modifier map other than somehow assigning mode_switch to something other than mod1 - maybe mod3. how is a matter of tinkering. I see this even when when I have 108 set to ALT_R and not Multi. err what do you mean by multi? there is an actual multi key. this is how you do compose sequences. ie: multi, e, ` == è multi, e, ' == é I have multi bound to right ctrl, it's worked like this for about 20 years. It still works with terminology and e, but nothing else now. I don't need multi for é since I can use mode_switch to hit right alt and e, but for ë I do use right ctrl e It still works in terminology, but nowhere else now. OMG, I ran a new xfce4-terminal, and now mode_switch and multi work in it, as well as all my existing xfce4-terminal windows. WTH? As the same time, mode_switch now broke in terminology, but multi still works in it. what are you doing? you get the above as per all my comments in the phab bug. i am repeating myself now endlessly. go read it. i explained it in detail. they way you have your keyboard working alt and altgr as modifiers conflict. they produce the SAME modifier mask. exactly the same. modifier state is a bitmask - with a bit on for the modifier. e dumps altgr if it conflicts with alt as it is not a separate modifier at all then, and that is what causes the problem with bindings as e can now not tell if its alt or altgr pressed, so it assumes both as they both match - otherwise it has to randomly guess which and that's worse. I understand that part, but I think I misunderstood you on where the bug is. I thought you meant the bug was in X, but now I think you're saying I have my modifiers set wrong in xmodmap, and that I can change of course. you have altgr create a modifer mask of 0x8 (bit # 4 set). alt ALSO produces this bitmask as well. (i don't remember the exact bit bit they both had the SAME mask). since we detect modifiers by the bitmask - it's now ambiguous. try it. hit alt+x then altgr+x - in xev. look at state value. that is the modifier/lock states. notice it has the same value with either key. note that with bindings you dont see the modifier key press. you only see the x or f1 or whatever along with the current state, so we can't go tracking the modifier keys themselves. Note that I don't knowingly change my modifiers (xmodmap -pm that is, I did change the key mappings, aka xmodmap -pke) with xmodmap, I think that's what I get from X, but I'm happy to adjust them. you implicitly do. unfortunately. xmodmap -e keycode 108 = Mode_switch Alt_R Meta_R Alt_R Meta_R I now simply have keycode 105 = Multi_key keycode 108 = Mode_switch Is that broken? doesn't even do anything for me in 2 apps as non-efl toolkit apps. so i don't even know what it's meant to do/make work... but it does nothing for other toolkits, and nothing for terminology or efl too. all it results in is a broken modifier mask mappping that i know have
