Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue

2023-02-26 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

Sorry for late reply.

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  Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
  Message-ID : <81277905-ce55-d1c1-92ee-d626e8d9b...@gmail.com>
  Date & Time: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 11:25:26 +0100

[MM] == Massimo Maiurana  has written:

MM>  Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 26/02/23 alle 10:09:

[...]
MN> > I mean, I'm thinking that your problem is related to bluetoooth, but I
MN> > can't figure out anything from your information.

MM>  I don't have any problem with bluetooth. Now i installed
MM>  pipewire-alsa, removed pulseaudio included its bluetooth module
MM>  and still mixer doesn't detect the audio server at startup.
MM>  Reloading it makes it see it. The only bluetooth module
MM>  installed is now libspa-0.2-bluetooth and my bluetooth headphones
MM>  are still working.

Ok.

Please return the pipewire-related status to the status indicated by
debian.

Then reboot, and immediately after boot, do the following and show the
results;

 $ systedmctl --user status pipewire pipewire-pulse wireplumber

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Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue

2023-02-26 Thread leoutation

On 2/25/23 10:24, Carsten Haitzler wrote:

On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 15:47:37 +0100 leoutat...@gmx.fr said:


Hi
I use pipewire and wireplumber with enlightenment, not pulseaudio (only
libpulse dependency)
My default device is headphones, so, i set this choice in e mixer but,
it often falls back to speaker. Other mixer issue,  I disable audio
input but it always falls back to enabled...
Arch Linux system
enlightenment-git
efl-git


this would be a pipewire issue (or deeper down - kernel, udev? some device
being unplugged and plugged in?).

e's mixer doesn't even remember what audio device was used last - it does not
try to restore it. it leaves this up to pulse audio. yes - i know you use
pipewire. from e's point of view, it's talking to pulse audio - so it uses
libpluse to do that. :) pipewire can emulate pulse in this way so anything that
deals with pulse can just work with pipewire.




Well, I didn't know e mixer doesn't remember audio device priority. I 
have to know why, sometimes, priority changes. May be because, 
sometimes, i launch two X session in same time... I use pipewire-git and 
wireplumber-git ; they work fine, much better than pulseaudio in my 
case. I have to investigate then I'll report this issue upstream.

Thanks

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Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue

2023-02-26 Thread Massimo Maiurana

Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 26/02/23 alle 10:09:

Hello,

In the Message;

   Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
   Message-ID : <9806f554-6796-465b-7f01-22d974a7d...@gmail.com>
   Date & Time: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 09:19:30 +0100

[MM] == Massimo Maiurana  has written:

[...]
MM>  > Your package configuration is incorrect.
MM>  >
MM>  > First, the following packages are missing;
MM>  >
MM>  > pipewire-alsa

MM>  Trying to install this it asks to remove the whole pulseaudio installation.

MM>  > pipewire-module-x11

MM>  Not present in debian
[...]
MM>  >
MM>  > What did you decide the configuration based on?

MM>  I've never decided to install pipewire explicitly, it must have
MM>  been pulled in by some other package installation.

I see.

[...]
MM>  > Under the pipewire, at minimum, you will need to install the
MM>  > libspa-0.2-plugins  package, remove the pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
MM>  > package, and then either reboot your computer or restart the PipeWire
MM>  > services, otherwise device connections will fail with "Protocol not
MM>  > available".

MM>  libspa-0.2-plugins is not in the list of available debian packages. Look 
here
MM>  for available pipewire packages in bookworm:
MM>  https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=bookworm=pipewire

I had heard rumors that debian's packages were peculiar, but I am
surprised to see how peculiar they are.

I have no idea why they use the pulseaudio's bluetooth module instead of
the pipewire's bluetooth module.

I mean, I'm thinking that your problem is related to bluetoooth, but I
can't figure out anything from your information.


I don't have any problem with bluetooth. Now i installed pipewire-alsa, 
removed pulseaudio included its bluetooth module and still mixer doesn't 
detect the audio server at startup. Reloading it makes it see it. The 
only bluetooth module installed is now libspa-0.2-bluetooth and my 
bluetooth headphones are still working.



It seems to me that pipewire is still in the testing phase in debian,
though?

Basically, it is a debian problem, not the enlightenment problem, so
you should ask the debian ML.

Regards.

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Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue

2023-02-26 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
  Message-ID : <9806f554-6796-465b-7f01-22d974a7d...@gmail.com>
  Date & Time: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 09:19:30 +0100

[MM] == Massimo Maiurana  has written:

[...]
MM>  > Your package configuration is incorrect.
MM>  > 
MM>  > First, the following packages are missing;
MM>  > 
MM>  > pipewire-alsa

MM>  Trying to install this it asks to remove the whole pulseaudio installation.

MM>  > pipewire-module-x11

MM>  Not present in debian
[...]
MM>  > 
MM>  > What did you decide the configuration based on?

MM>  I've never decided to install pipewire explicitly, it must have
MM>  been pulled in by some other package installation.

I see.

[...]
MM>  > Under the pipewire, at minimum, you will need to install the
MM>  > libspa-0.2-plugins  package, remove the pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
MM>  > package, and then either reboot your computer or restart the PipeWire
MM>  > services, otherwise device connections will fail with "Protocol not
MM>  > available".

MM>  libspa-0.2-plugins is not in the list of available debian packages. Look 
here
MM>  for available pipewire packages in bookworm:
MM>  https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=bookworm=pipewire

I had heard rumors that debian's packages were peculiar, but I am
surprised to see how peculiar they are.

I have no idea why they use the pulseaudio's bluetooth module instead of
the pipewire's bluetooth module.

I mean, I'm thinking that your problem is related to bluetoooth, but I
can't figure out anything from your information.

It seems to me that pipewire is still in the testing phase in debian,
though?

Basically, it is a debian problem, not the enlightenment problem, so
you should ask the debian ML.

Regards.

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Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue

2023-02-26 Thread Massimo Maiurana

Masaru Nomiya ha scritto il 26/02/23 alle 00:22:

Hello,

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   Subject: Re: [e-users] enlightenment audio default device issue
   Message-ID : 
   Date & Time: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 23:01:18 +0100

[MM] == Massimo Maiurana  has written:

[...]
MM>  Oh, you're asking for installed packages then, not installed files. Here 
they
MM>  are:

MM>  apt list --installed | grep pipewire
MM>  gstreamer1.0-pipewire/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico]
MM>  libpipewire-0.3-0/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico]
MM>  libpipewire-0.3-common/testing,testing,now 0.3.65-2 all [installato, 
automatico]
MM>  libpipewire-0.3-modules/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico]
MM>  pipewire-bin/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico]
MM>  pipewire-pulse/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico]
MM>  pipewire/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico]

MM>  apt list --installed | grep pulse
MM>  gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio/testing,now 1.22.0-dmo2 amd64 [installato]
MM>  libcanberra-pulse/testing,now 0.30-10 amd64 [installato]
MM>  libpulse-dev/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato]
MM>  libpulse-mainloop-glib0/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato,
MM>  automatico]
MM>  libpulse0/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato, automatico]
MM>  libpulsedsp/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato, automatico]
MM>  pipewire-pulse/testing,now 0.3.65-2 amd64 [installato, automatico]
MM>  pulseaudio-module-bluetooth/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato]
MM>  pulseaudio-utils/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato, automatico]
MM>  pulseaudio/testing,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installato]

Your package configuration is incorrect.

First, the following packages are missing;

pipewire-alsa


Trying to install this it asks to remove the whole pulseaudio installation.


pipewire-module-x11


Not present in debian


pipewire-spa-plugins


Not present in debian


pipewire-tools


Not present in debian


pipewire-spa-tools


Not present in debian


alsa-plugins-pulse


Not present in debian


pipewire-aptx (if exists)


Not present in debian


Second, the following package is unnecessary;

gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio

What did you decide the configuration based on?


I've never decided to install pipewire explicitly, it must have been 
pulled in by some other package installation.



MN> > BTW.
[...]
MN>  > The bluetooth module for pulseaudio is unnecessary.
MN>  > If you have it in there, it will be a bad thing, won't it?

MM>  It is there since when i was using pulse and i don't have any
MM>  problem with bluetooth devices (actually the only device i use is
MM>  an headphone).

The idea that it is good enough if it just works should be stopped.

Under the pipewire, at minimum, you will need to install the
libspa-0.2-plugins  package, remove the pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
package, and then either reboot your computer or restart the PipeWire
services, otherwise device connections will fail with "Protocol not
available".


libspa-0.2-plugins is not in the list of available debian packages. Look 
here for available pipewire packages in bookworm:

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=bookworm=pipewire


Regards.

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