Perhaps there is difference between "Click to Focus" and "Windows under Mouse" focus related to Eclipse. I specifically use Hanne's excellent Enlightenment PPA on Ubuntu 11.10 as focus issues with Eclipse under Unity (amongst other irritants) were driving me crazy. I use Eclipse a lot along with many applications simultaneously open which Unity does not handle well IMHO.
Using the default "Windows under Mouse" focus with E17 I have had no such problems. Regards, Bo On 22/04/12 18:47, hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Carsten Haitzler<ras...@rasterman.com> > wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:26:15 +0200 Francois<fan...@gmail.com> said: >> >>> Jeremy Quandt<quand...@hotmail.com >>> <mailto:quand...@hotmail.com?Subject=Re:%20%20e17%20and%20eclipse%20-%20focus% >>> 20problem>> wrote: >>>> I just wanted to add my 2 cents. I am using an Ubuntu 11.10 machine, >>>> with the >>>> ppa >>>> https://launchpad.net/%7Ehannes-janetzek/+archive/enlightenment-svn and I >>>> work daily using Eclipse to code and I often have window focusing >>>> problems. For >>>> java I have setup to use Sun's java >>>> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java). >>>> >>>> I do have the GNOME Settings Daemon and a number of other Ubuntu stuff >>>> launched >>>> on startup, namely just to get the GTK windows looking right in >>>> addition to the >>>> network and proxy pieces working correctly. There is no ecomorph >>>> running or >>>> compiz. Mouse focus is set to click to focus. >>>> >>>> I really like e17, but the conflicts with Eclipse focusing is getting >>>> harder to >>>> accept. I haven't been able to fully list steps to reproduce yet, but >>>> some of >>>> the symptoms I have are as follows: >>>> >>>> 1.) Edit window looses focus (greyed out). If the text buffer has >>>> changed it >>>> won't allow me to save. File context "Save All" is also disallowed >>>> even though >>>> the buffer shows change. To save the file I have to close the tab for >>>> the file, >>>> which will then prompt me to save the file. I then have to dig through my >>>> project to reopen the file. >>>> >>>> 2.) Select text in an editor for a file, find and Replace window (I >>>> have mapped >>>> to CTRL+F) when invoked will appear but the editor has lost focus so >>>> the "Find" >>>> button will be greyed out until the editor window is selected and the >>>> Find& >>>> Replace window is reselected. >>>> >>>> 3.) When debugging, the thread stack doesn't always allow switching a >>>> thread >>>> (seems to ignore the click). >>>> >>>> On a side note, Mono (debugger) also will crash when hovering over a >>>> variable in >>>> the watch window. A tooltip usually displays extended values of the >>>> variable >>>> (like a full string). >>>> >>>> Not sure what else I can do to help, but I will try to see if I can >>>> get the >>>> issue to be reproducible. >>> >>> For the record, I do experience similar problems, which disapear when I >>> switch to Gnome, so it really seems to be a window manager problem. The >>> point 1) above is really annoying for me. >>> >>> I use E17 from trunk with easy_e17.sh script on a Debian Sid machine, >>> with an Eclipse 3.7.1 and a Java 7 (openJDK) JVM. >>> >>> I don't know how I could help solving these issues, but if I can help, I >>> will be glad to. >> i'm going to give something very non-positive here now. look for mentions of >> the word java in e17's src. and then look for the swear words right near it. >> here is the reality of things: >> >> java's awt is built to emulate a windows style focus and behavior world. >> having read some of its x11 layer code, it looks like it's written by some >> junior programmer with little to no idea about x11. it tries make a x11+wm >> world appear like the windows world. reality is that this is nigh impossible. >> and doing so to work across wm's needs high levewls of skill, knowledge, >> experience and needs care and effort. java has code (i've read it before) >> SPECIFICALLY to detect a range of window managers and work around them, do >> weird and wonderful things in each situation, and try all sorts of tricks to >> get >> things to happen that it wants. >> >> fact is that java doesn't respect icccm/netwm/x11 correctly and does hacks to >> get its "write once, run anywhere" to work. i gave up working around java a >> long time ago. i'm down to not really caring anymore as i've sunk 100's of >> hours of trying to find "bugs" in e only to find it's java being a "dick". i >> have little patience or time to bother anymore. >> >> patches (that don't totally screw e17's src) accepted. :) >> > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=59639 > > seems like a eclipse bug with focus-window-under-mouse, should work > when setting e's window focus to click-to-focus. I'm also currently > not in the mood to fix this. But maybe I'll look after it some day. > > Regards, > Hannes > >> -- >> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. >> Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. >> Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 >> _______________________________________________ >> enlightenment-users mailing list >> enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. > Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. > Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. 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