[e-users] Re: e17 virtual desktops
David Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 1/15/06, Oliver Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > the onyl difference is that u dont SEE the contents of a window >> > that belongs to another desktop that is partly overlapping this >> > one. >> >> And exactly this is what I need. > > Do you really /need/ it? > > Instead of switching from desk to desk to see both sides of the > window, just drag your window left and right instead, no?! I think the original poster had some extra windows that would go on the different screens, so this might not be enough. But if you only have one mega-huge window then dragging back and forth should be enough. And it can even be done very conveniently and quickly with some keybindings: er=enlightenment_remote $er -binding-key-add ANY Left 'SHIFT|CTRL|ALT' 0 'window_move_to' '+0 *' $er -binding-key-add ANY Right 'SHIFT|CTRL|ALT' 0 'window_move_to' '-0 *' $er -binding-key-add ANY Up'SHIFT|CTRL|ALT' 0 'window_move_to' '* +0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Down 'SHIFT|CTRL|ALT' 0 'window_move_to' '* -0' -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpGCmc4uN546.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: Window$-like focus style
Florent Thiery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Small question: which options in the focus config menu would be > equivalent to window$'s focus policy? After 10 years using this > *crappy* thing, i must say i'm completely addicted to it's focus > policy, but i don't manage to tune this in e17... I'm using the following settings and I think they're pretty windows-like: er=enlightenment_remote $er -focus-setting-set NEW_WINDOW $er -focus-policy-set CLICK $er -winlist-warp-while-selecting-set 0 $er -winlist-warp-at-end-set 0 It basically makes the mouse stay where it is when switching windows, and focusses all new windows. Another thing: could you please start a new thread instead of replying to an old thread when your message has nothing to do with that thread? See for your self here at Gmane how your message ends up together with the "E17 segfaulting..." thread, even though your focus problems are unrelated: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.enlightenment.user/5716 Simply send a new mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of replying should be enough. If you save the list address in your addressbook this shouldn't be much more trouble than replying to an old message in an old thread. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpR2a7N7VrEJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: cpufreq module and rights
Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday, 02 December 2005, at 18:11:57 (+0100), > Martin Geisler wrote: > >> Why would removing the read rights for normal users help with >> security? Anybody can download the source and build an identical >> copy anyway. Then it is only the permission bits which differ, and >> that's all that matters. > > I think it was more of a "best practices" sort of comment. It > certainly doesn't hurt to remove the read permissions on binaries > (but it DOES for scripts!), and if there were anything sensitive in > said binaries, it would provide added security. I agree that one should apply all security measures possible, but removing read permissions on stock binaries isn't one of them, IMHO. Be paranoid, but apply it with some reason :-) -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpzyo1XPg0Qn.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: cpufreq module and rights
Mathieu Segaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > no no no, NEVER use root as a user account :) > > you have to setuid the freqset utility e installs in the module > subdirectory > > # chmod u+s freqset > > This way whenever it is executed, it is executed as its owner, root, > not as its real user, you. > > but some see it as a security hazard > > To avoid sec problems, I set it to r-s--x--x rights and it is owned > by root. Why would removing the read rights for normal users help with security? Anybody can download the source and build an identical copy anyway. Then it is only the permission bits which differ, and that's all that matters. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpXGKBjW0dD6.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: edge-flip and fullscreen
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> It seems to me like when I am in fullscreen mode with a window, >> edge-flip should be off. I guess that not everyone would agree, so >> this should be a toggleable feature. However, I'd like to set up >> something so that if, say, the currently focused window has the >> fullscreen attribute set, then edge-flip is turned off. This makes >> the most sense when I'm playing a fullscreen game, I don't wanna >> accidentally lose focus of the game when I start looking around a >> bit. > > it definitely should be an option. you want to look in e_zone.c for > the code that handles edge flips :) I have had this probme too when watching TV in a fullscreen tvtime window. I simply worked around it by making the window sticky -- then I just get a small popup when/if I go out over the edge with my mouse. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgp6ULbu5MVTO.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: evidence updating errors
Pascal Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is true, our mirror is up and working. However, we can't > provide the evidence CVS on our server, because it isn't in > cvs.sourceforge.net/cvsroot/enlightenment but in > cvs.sourceforge.net/cvsroot/evidence. Ahh, sorry for the misunderstanding -- I'm not using Evidence myself, and I just assumed that it would be there the rest of the stuff is. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpuhKWLDbq0n.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: evidence updating errors
Alan Trick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yeah, I'm getting the same thing: > > cvs login: authorization failed: server cvs.sourceforge.net rejected > access to /cvsroot/evidence for user anonymous > > it's been like that since yesterday - really anoying There's another anonymous CVS repository (quoting raster): > Thanks to our freinds at http://www.thinktux.net off in the Alps in > Switzerland, we have a new Anonymous CVS Mirror. This will NOT ALLOW > WRITES and it is not ALWAYS up to date with development CVS as it > syncs every 30 minutes from development CVS, BUT it is at most 30 > minutes behind, and apparently has a lot of bandwidth. So thanks > om1n[A]e and null__ for helping set it up and managing it. You can > check the details here: > > http://www.enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/Get_Enlightenment/index.html > >And you can check out a tree for e17 with this command: > > cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/root co e17 > > So everyone having problems getting into sf.net anonymous CVS, this > is another option. :) Again. Thanks to om1n[A]e and null__ :) -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpVuzNJ3bJys.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: Terminal
Bu Bacoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What kind of terminal do you use? ETerm and even any other do not > support e17-transparency, as modules do, right? I like transparent > terminal - it is the only app, where it makes some sense for me. If you've set your background image with e17setroot, then Eterm will happily use it for (fake) transparency. The "fakeness" refers to the fact that you cannot see things like modules or other windows through your Eterm. > Btw, do you have some terminal (instead of gnome-terminal) which > would support a 'hyperlink highlighting/clicking' ? (when I have > opened silc window and there is some link in it, I can click it. This is almost as easy as the feature you requst (and can be used with links in all programs): 1. select the link with the mouse, 2. middle-click somewhere in Mozilla/Firefox. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpxAgCccqNrS.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: dependencies
Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:17:02 +0200 schrieb Morten Nilsen: > >> not including external deps, I made this dotgraph.. not all the >> stuff from cvs is included, only the stuff I've packaged.. did I >> miss anything? > > I'm not a E17 developer, but is the arrow between edje and e > correct? Does edje really need e? I read the graph the other way around: evas needs edb, ecore needs evas, edje needs ecore, e needs edje, e_modules need e. But I too think the arrows should point in the other direction. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpiyq3TnBGh5.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: selecting multiple checkboxes in menu
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> A little-known but important fact: press space. I think it would >> be good to have it in the FAQ: >> >> Q: How can I select multiple remember settings without having to >>reopen the menu everytime? >> >> A: Pressing space while pointing to a menu item will select it >>without closing the menu. > > not much point as i have actually just made all of the locks and > remember stuff dialogs instead :) You're moving too fast! :-) -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpoNcuno3WzB.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: selecting multiple checkboxes in menu
Christoph Gysin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > During the actual development phase everytime the E configuration > gets updated, I'll have to redefine the remember-settings for all my > apps. Nothing wrong with that, but I'd like to improve this > procedure generally. > > I do Alt-RightMouse on the window, Remember, and select a > checkbox. Now, the menu dissapears and I have to start from the > beginning. I'd like to be able to press a modifier (Ctrl for > example), to prevent the menu from closing after toggling a > checkbox. A little-known but important fact: press space. I think it would be good to have it in the FAQ: Q: How can I select multiple remember settings without having to reopen the menu everytime? A: Pressing space while pointing to a menu item will select it without closing the menu. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgptAhQ7PxMIE.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: e_modules tclock (text/tiny clock module)
Ciro Mattia Gonano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wishlist: > > - it could be nice to have tclock format configurable, something > that can include most of date-command prebuilt formats, so one could > have Yes such customization would be a very good idea! And please make it default to the %c format: The preferred date and time representation for the current locale. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpN0suCpK3ju.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: On Top Modules
Fabian Zeindl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Paul S. wrote: >> Nope, that's an e18 feature. > > Can you tell me why? I know there are things like feature freeze > etc., but I think that would bring much benefit (e.g. engage would > be far more usable). I'm not one of the developers, but let me try and answer anyway... I believe that the problem is that engage and the other modules use transparency in huge amounts. Right now this transparency is made against the root window, and everything is easily controlled by E17 since it has control over the root window. If engage were to be ontop, then the transparency would have be do done against other windows not controlled by E (Firefox, Eterm, and whatnot...), not just the root window. And for that I think we're waiting for the next version of X to support true transparency between arbitrary windows. What could be done now is to have engage and the other modules reserve some space so that windows wont be allowed to be moved into those areas. In fact, there's already some support for this in the mazimization policies: with the SMART, EXPAND, and FILL policies your maximized windows wont cover the modules. Use enlightenment_remote -maximize-policy-set SMART to change policy. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgppH8OJVeiuk.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: Development progress?? and how close for E17 final version??
Anshuman Gholap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There shud be something like a WIKI where rastermann has put feature > list and cross-out things which have been done. For that you'll have to subscribe to the enligtenment-cvs list and follow along in the TODO files. Having a wiki with the information would be nice, but it takes a lot of time to constantly update such a thing, and I believe that this is the reason why it isn't done. > E17 not only is small light but stunningly beautifull too. so i am > waiting for its final release :) (dont wanna get my server down > crashing it by installing alpha/beta/cvs apps). Your webserver wont crash because of problems with E17 -- that's the beauty of having separated things out into different programs: the stability of your webserver is independant of the stability of your window manager. And when E crashes then it detects this itself and gives you a dialog box with the option to ignore the error, restart or quit. Simply select restart and you'll be back with a fully working desktop. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpD9J99Kx62b.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: unable to compile since 9/30
Mitch Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > did you say you just checked something into cvs for ecore? 'cuz i > didn't see anything get updated just now, and i'm still getting that > error building ecore When things are comitted to CVS by a developer on SourceForge it takes a couple of hours until it gets available on the public CVS servers. Wait a bit and try again later. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP Exif Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write Exif data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpgE5XBYJjfx.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: E17 key editor
Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Perhaps some questions for enlightenment_remote. > > - How could I set new windows always to have the focus? Try with -focus-setting-set NEW_WINDOW. > - I set -winlist-warp-while-selecting-set 0 and > -winlist-warp-at-end-set 0, but the cursur warps to a position a > little left the winlist. I have the same options set and my cursor is rock steady when I switch windows. > - How to set "not cycling through windows while switching winlist" I don't think there's an option for this (yet). -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpxQz55XzAqG.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: e17 stable now!
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> $er -binding-key-add ANY Left 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'resize' '-20 0' >> $er -binding-key-add ANY Right 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'resize' '+20 0' >> $er -binding-key-add ANY Up'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'resize' '0 -20' >> $er -binding-key-add ANY Down 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'resize' '0 +20' >> >> See this post for more explaination about the parameters for the >> actions: >> >> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=12262155 > > actually i renamed those actions as they didn't describe very well > what they did. :) > > window_move_to > window_move_by > window_resize_by > > is what they are called now (as other actions affecting windows are > all called window_SOMETHING) :) but otherwise they work the same :) Ahh, thanks for the correction! -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpWE8JWHxGpU.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: e17 stable now!
Matias Grana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK, so this is my whishlist: keyboard control for all dialogs! And, > if I may still have more whishes, keyboard control for windows > (mainly, being able to move and resize windows w/ keyboard would > suffice). I know, this is something for the far away future, but if > you eventually have time and will to do it, it'll be a strong point > for e17. Well, your far away future is already here! :-) Try the following for resizing and moving windows with the keyboard (this is a shell script, type it in a file or line by line in a terminal): er=enlightenment_remote $er -binding-key-add ANY Left 'SHIFT|CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_absolute' '+0 *' $er -binding-key-add ANY Right 'SHIFT|CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_absolute' '-0 *' $er -binding-key-add ANY Up'SHIFT|CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_absolute' '* +0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Down 'SHIFT|CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_absolute' '* -0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Left 'CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_relative' '-20 0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Right 'CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_relative' '+20 0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Up'CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_relative' '0 -20' $er -binding-key-add ANY Down 'CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_relative' '0 +20' $er -binding-key-add ANY Left 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'resize' '-20 0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Right 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'resize' '+20 0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Up'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'resize' '0 -20' $er -binding-key-add ANY Down 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'resize' '0 +20' See this post for more explaination about the parameters for the actions: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=12262155 -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpc6LdxvDIPo.pgp Description: PGP signature
[e-users] Re: Feature idea, interactive icons
"David P. Donahue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've been having a little trouble doing that for the past week or > two, actually. Whenever I try to login to CVS or download from it, > I almost always get the message: > > cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above > messages if any) I see those messages too once in a while, but when I try again it usually works. I assume it's because SF is overloaded... -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpgou4mq41NA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] Bug in "move_absolute"
Doomsday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I found a bug with the binding "move_absolute". Maybe it is > reproductible with move_relative but few tries are not enough. > > So, let's start the show: > > Get the focus from the foreground one. > Move the window with CTRL|ALT + Right binding. > Ok, all could be done. Now, move window in origin position, and > repeat exactly same action, with taking attention on the focus of the > second one. If you are attentive, you can see the background window > steal focus during one millisecond. > > It's a bit annoying if we repeat quickly many key binding like that, > all window are moved instead just one (the focused..). Yes, it seems that the e_border_focused_get() function does not really return what it claims: it returns the window under the mouse but not the focussed window (unless your focus follows the mouse :-) I've also seen the bug you're describing with the other keyboard commands such as minimize etc. Unfortunately I don't know how to fix it. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpszi0lBzfoQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] minor E17 issues
Guerreiro da Luz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Guerreiro > 1. How to turn off that flashing effect in window title bar when > switching focus to window (trying various options with > enlightenment_remote, but to no avail)? As far as I've understood, then this is part of the theme and so you cannot change it using enlightenment_remote. I have no experience with themes in E17, but I found that the default border apperance is controlled by e/data/themes/default_border.edc and I you could edit it to remove the effect. Or maybe just replace e17_titlebar_glint2.png with an empty PNG file would work. > 2. I changed theme to Slate, but some stuff (Alt-Tab window, window > menu) is still using E17 default theme. Is there a way to change this? Again, I believe this is because that theme hasn't been updated and default E17 theme is then used as a fallback. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgp8aIkWs8EmP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] another bg.po update
Виктор Кожухаров <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > and a question: why is the config discarded whenever e is compiled > and installed again? with every recompile, all the settings have to > be done all over again. As Christian has already pointed out this is just the easiest thing to do for the developers. But for you as a user it's quite easy to put your settings into a small shell script and then run this after an upgrade. I use a script with these things and I find it much easier to change stuff by editing the script than re-entering stuff at the prompt: #!/bin/sh er=enlightenment_remote # Delete default keybindings: $er -binding-key-del ANY Tab 'ALT' 0 'winlist' '' $er -binding-key-del ANY Tab 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'winlist' '' # Add new keybindings: $er -binding-key-add ANY Tab 'WIN' 0 'winlist' 'next' $er -binding-key-add ANY Tab 'SHIFT|WIN' 0 'winlist' 'prev' -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpCUCQz3ebXE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] E17 timeline (...!)
Christoph Gysin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Martin Geisler wrote: >>>You should send that to the list, not to me. I'm using gentoo ;-) >> If you're using Gentoo, how can you be afraid of compiling E17 >> yourself? I though Gentoo was all about compiling... ;-) > > When did I say that? > > As you can see from the headers, I'm not the OP. Sorry about that, I messed up! -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpwMEkQ0J9ge.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] E17 timeline (...!)
Christoph Gysin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Marco Bluethgen wrote: >> Debian Packages can be found on >> http://soulmachine.net/debian/unstable >> There are also deb-files for Ubuntu-Hoary on >> http://ubuntu.nooms.de/hoary >> bye marco > > You should send that to the list, not to me. I'm using gentoo ;-) If you're using Gentoo, how can you be afraid of compiling E17 yourself? I though Gentoo was all about compiling... ;-) -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpp95yMbISlS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] E17 timeline (...!)
Benjamin Stocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm also reading about E17 development. I know that this question is > already answered in the FAQ, but I still would like to know: Will > there be a alpha or beta version of E17 in nearst time? I ask this > because I'm afraid of compiling the source and are looking forward > to binary packages. If you happen to be running Debian, then checkout the prebuilt packages here: http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/e17-alpha.html#repository I used them for a while until I began compiling E17 myself. Building from source is actually quite easy if you first install the necessary -dev packages from your distribution and then builds things in order: http://get-e.org/User_Guide/English/_pages/2.1.html Simple checkout the source and try to compile and install it, starting with eet. Compile and install each component one after another. When you run into an error it's most likely caused by you not having the necessary headers installed --- read the error message and try to figure out which package in your distribution has the requested file. With Debian you can search for the right package here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents Your distribution will most likely have a similar webpage or a tool you can use. If you run autogen.sh as './autogen.sh --prefix=$HOME/opt' or something similar, then 'make install' wont touch anything in your system directories either, so there's no chance of messing things up. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpLEdbi0Zdad.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] What is the window menu in e17
Guillermo Movia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I read some answers using the window menu, but i don't know which > are or how called to it. Thanks Try left-clicking on the icon in the corner of a window or right-clicking on the title bar. Then you get a big menu where you can do all sorts of operations on the selected window: iconify, close, remember stuff, set locks, and much more. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpK1J48gQxi9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] E17: problems with menu/icons/keys/mouse/iconbar ...
Martin Zwickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:11:39 +0200 > Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bubbled: > >> Martin Zwickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > btw.: etangle does not work very well. I can't delete entries. >> >> Try middle-clicking on an entry. Or drag the entry out of the screen >> with your right mouse button. > > *doh* I tried nearly every button, but not the middle one! Well... I'm not claiming that it's obvious... I just happened to stumble upon it by chance. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgp9xucS73gH1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] E17: problems with menu/icons/keys/mouse/iconbar ...
Martin Zwickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > btw.: etangle does not work very well. I can't delete entries. Try middle-clicking on an entry. Or drag the entry out of the screen with your right mouse button. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpqa9MuoaefY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] E17: problems with menu/icons/keys/mouse/iconbar ...
Martin Zwickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Many thanks! That's what I need! If you like keyboard control, then I can recommend these bindings too: $er -binding-key-add ANY Left 'SHIFT|CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_absolute' '+0 *' $er -binding-key-add ANY Right 'SHIFT|CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_absolute' '-0 *' $er -binding-key-add ANY Up'SHIFT|CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_absolute' '* +0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Down 'SHIFT|CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_absolute' '* -0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Left 'CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_relative' '-20 0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Right 'CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_relative' '+20 0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Up'CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_relative' '0 -20' $er -binding-key-add ANY Down 'CTRL|ALT' 0 'move_relative' '0 +20' $er -binding-key-add ANY Left 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'resize' '-20 0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Right 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'resize' '+20 0' $er -binding-key-add ANY Up'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'resize' '0 -20' $er -binding-key-add ANY Down 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'resize' '0 +20' For those you'll have to delete some default bindings first: $er -binding-key-del ANY Left 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'desk_flip_by' '' $er -binding-key-del ANY Right 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'desk_flip_by' '' $er -binding-key-del ANY Up'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'desk_flip_by' '' $er -binding-key-del ANY Down 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'desk_flip_by' '' $er -binding-key-del ANY Up'CTRL|ALT' 0 'window_raise' '' $er -binding-key-del ANY Down 'CTRL|ALT' 0 'window_lower' '' $er -binding-key-del ANY Left 'CTRL|ALT' 0 'desk_linear_flip_by' '' $er -binding-key-del ANY Right 'CTRL|ALT' 0 'desk_linear_flip_by' '' > Have a look at the attachments. I can't get it to the bottom because > of the resize-box (which is clipped to the bottom). Aha... well I use the default theme so I haven't seen the problem. Maybe you would like the updated winter theme instead? It has another design for the clock module and seems to align properly. http://get-e.org/Themes/E17/ -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgp2Hi8ETUq1b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] E17: problems with menu/icons/keys/mouse/iconbar ...
Martin Zwickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello again, I've got some more tips... > But I'm unable to edit the menu (I want to add a few new programs). To edit the Favorite Applications menu use entangle. I have installed E17 and the related programs in ~/opt (using ./autogen --prefix=/home/mg/opt when configuring) and I thus had to add ~/opt/bin to my path before starting E17. My ~/.xsession file: export PATH=~/opt/bin:$PATH exec ~/opt/bin/enlightenment With those settings E17 gives me an 'Edit Icon' / 'Create Icon' menu entry when I click on the title line of a window. That launches the e_util_eapp_edit program with the Window class set correctly. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgpBTG4lqN9vY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] E17: problems with menu/icons/keys/mouse/iconbar ...
Martin Zwickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Martin, > I got E17 up and running! Great! :-) I think I know the answers to some of your questions. > How can I change the window and focus settings? I have to > doubleclick to raise the window. Take a look at the enlightenment_remote program: running it without arguments gives you a listing of everything it is able to set in E17. That includes focus settings, I use these settings myself: er=enlightenment_remote $er -focus-setting-set NEW_WINDOW $er -focus-policy-set CLICK $er -winlist-warp-while-selecting-set 0 $er -winlist-warp-at-end-set 0 It is also used to configure the key- and mouse-bindings at the moment. For example, I prefer to use the Win key instead of the Alt key for switching windows: $er -binding-key-del ANY Tab 'ALT' 0 'winlist' '' $er -binding-key-del ANY Tab 'SHIFT|ALT' 0 'winlist' '' # Add new keybindings: $er -binding-key-del ANY Tab 'WIN' 0 'winlist' '' $er -binding-key-del ANY Tab 'SHIFT|WIN' 0 'winlist' '' $er -binding-key-add ANY Tab 'WIN' 0 'winlist' 'next' $er -binding-key-add ANY Tab 'SHIFT|WIN' 0 'winlist' 'prev' So at the moment enlightenment_remote is the definite control center of E17, but in the future GUI programs will let you do the same in a more userfriendly way. > And I'm not able to place to clock correctly. There is a border > around the clock in "edit mode" and to the bottom there are a few > pixels left so it looks unaligned since it clips the few pixels > above the bottom ... I'm not really sure what you mean here --- for me the clock is nicely centered in its resize-box when I use the Edit Mode, and I see no strange clipping. -- Martin Geisler GnuPG Key: 0x7E45DD38 PHP EXIF Library | PHP Weather | PHP Shell http://pel.sf.net/| http://phpweather.net/ | http://mgeisler.net/ Read/write EXIF data | Show current weather| A shell in a browser pgp2hf2rp9LCz.pgp Description: PGP signature
