Solved: Re: Addition to Re: [e-users] E17 - Current CVS - rendered unuseable

2006-05-16 Thread Martin Hauser
Hey all,

in case someone wants to know... it has NOTHING to do with the Xserver
or anything E related, at least not directly. My thinkpad has a faulty
battery i forget to put out from time to time. Well, recently i noticed
that the battery is that much damaged that the os acpi can't read the
charge anymore... and it hangs guess what's the problem then? E's
battery module. I removed the faulty battery and E responded at once.
Just in case anyone want's to deal with this rare case, you now know.

thanks for all your help

regards

Martin




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Addition to Re: [e-users] E17 - Current CVS - rendered unuseable

2006-05-16 Thread Martin Hauser
Hi All,

i had this weird thing again... and i have a suspection now... it seems
that software suspend 2 when resuming, sort of breaks something in the
Xserver or in E17 and renders stuff unuseable. After a reboot of the
system everything seems to be normal again. I assume that a restart of
the X-server would fix it, or maybe a restart of E, but have not tried
that yet. 

I'm using Xorg 7.0.0 from debian unstable.

anyone having any idea?

Thanks in advance and regards

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[e-users] E17 - Current CVS - rendered unuseable

2006-05-16 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello Again,

after a period of time using e16, i thought i could give e17 a try
again. First of all, it's a great set of features that you have
implemented in e17 till now, keep up the good work.

Sadly, though, the WM is rendered unuseable for me, cause of an
annoying bug. If i happen to switch windows, or do something else
related to e, it freezes for about 5 or 10 seconds. I can use the
programm e focused at the time, but as a person who switches desktops
regularily... this is annoying.

What Help can i provide to trace down the bug? I'm using debian
up-to-date sid on an Ibm Thinkpad R40 with 1.4Ghz, so it's no slow
machine.

Thanks in Advance for your help

Regards

Martin

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Re: [e-users] E17 - Current CVS - rendered unuseable

2006-05-14 Thread Martin Hauser
Hey All,

On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:07:20 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 14 May 2006 10:41:56 +0200 Martin Hauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> babbled:
> 
> > [...] 
> i have never seen any such thing. actually - do you have your disk
> set to spin down? is your disk waiting until it spins up before
> loading data from disk? e is loading data from disk all the time (it
> demand-pages from theme files etc. etc. all the time). if it's in
> disk cache or e's own memory cache this wont cause disk IO. e has
> options to increase its cache size for performance reasons
> - it also would avoid disk spin-ups once all the data is loaded and
> cached.
> 

I've never configured the disk to spin down, never had the time to play
around with this laptop mode stuff and so on, the disk has been left as
it was configured initially by the kernel, no use of hdparm or the like
either. 

I've got now rid of the problem but i'm again not sure what it was. I
did the following steps:

1. I did change e's performance settings (making some 6mb font and
Image cache mainly), this did not have the desired effect, though i did
not restart e after the change.

2. I removed some processes from memory that were annoying me (stuff
like nfs-common and fam, don't need them anyway)

3. i stopped starting e from gdm and started it  from the command line

now e works like a charm, thanks for all your help... curious thing it
was, really


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Re: [e-users] e17: problem with two pagers

2006-04-09 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

> Hi,
> 
> Since upgrading from CVS from early March to CVS from today, I have
> two pagers.  There's only one pager module loaded - if I try to
> unload it, I get an Enlightenment crash.  I have been resizing one
> copy very small and hiding it, but when I resize enlightenment,
> they're both either very small or the normal size.  Stopping
> Enlightenment, moving my ~/.e directory and restarting does not solve
> the problem, so it doesn't seem to be a settings problem.  Can
> anybody tell me how to solve this?
>

You actually do move ~/.e while being logged out of e? I dunno but that
fixed the problem... terminate enlightenment, mv ~/.e away and restart
it... then it MUST be gone as far as i can tell.

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment utilizes nearly 100% of the CPU while moving windows

2006-03-21 Thread Martin Hauser
Hiho,

sorry for not getting back to you on this earlier... i figured it out
now. Somehow my installation got blown up and i had to exchange a few
libraries, don't remember exactly which ones... but now it keeps in an
acceptable level. Thanks for your help though.

Greets

Martin

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[e-users] Enlightenment utilizes nearly 100% of the CPU while moving windows

2006-03-12 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

the last few days i started noticing some strange effect with
enlightenment dr17. It started with the fact that i was not able to
understand my peer when using skype cause the sound came in only in
disassembled parts. It felt sort of strange and after spending hours
investigating and having several other problems causing me to reinstall
the system from scratch (there were some layout-issues i wanted to deal
with anyway). 

The Problem sadly did not walk away. But it changed. Now after being
back with a fresh install, skype was the first thing i tried. It worked
like a charm. Then i kicked in my webbrowser and tried to move it to a
certain position and then the fun started... it came to the fact that i
couldn't have firefox open while skyping without skype loosing _a lot_
of quality. Now this bothered me and i started investigating it further.
After a while i found out, that if i put top or htop into a xterm and
start moving it around in an otherwise blank enlightenment, the cpu
will increase from 0 to 40 up to nearly 100% utilisation, used by
enlightenment. If i move the xterm in front of firefox for example,
firefox will use the 100% of the cpu not enlightenment. I think this is
a bug but i'm not sure whether it is an enlightenment issue. But i was
using enlightenment dr17 on the same system for about half a year,
including frequent usage of skype and it did NEVER show this problem
before. I maybe should add that i don't think the problem with window
moveing existed before the reinstall.

To make sure it's not some .deb i missed to copy over from the last
build, i did a complete rebuild and removed my ~/.e directory, just to
be sure. But the problem wouldn't go away. It was still reproduceable.
So i spent some more time investigating it. I first investigated that
it's not the x-server by coping back my old xorg.conf . Nothing
changed. Next thing i thought about was verifying the installed x
libraries... again no change. Then i stumbled across the enlightenment
dropshadow module. Disableing it brought only slight relief for the
cpu. I also made sure that the X-server has not loaded any composite
stuff or the like. 

Okay then, i switched over to another wm (fluxbox) and tried everything
from there. The cpu utilisation there was a LOT smaller. It even is
smaller on something bloated, like gnome. That's why i'm addressing
enlightenment-users mailinglist and not some general mailing list. I
spent some hours googling also but still did not find any solution to
this.

The specs of my system would be:

Intel Pentium M 1.4 GHZ
256 mb ram
in an Thinkpad r40 running debian sid/unstable

I have no idea how to actually prove it's an enlightenment bug and if 
i should be wrong, sorry for the bother.

If i can provide any additional information for backtracing the
problem, let me know how and i'll what i can do.

Thanks in advanc3e

Martin


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Re: [e-users] Exhibit segfaulting + display failure with large images (problem in EVAS according to gdb)

2006-03-06 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 10:41:37 +0100 Martin Hauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> babbled:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I've just downloaded a huge image from the spaceteleskope homepage
> > and tried to view it in exhibit. The result was the following:
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/mh% identify heic0602a.jpg
> > heic0602a.jpg JPEG 15852x12392 DirectClass 62.1mb 24.060u 1:21
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/mh% exhibit heic0602a.jpg 
> > zsh: segmentation fault  exhibit heic0602a.jpg
> > 
> > You see the sizes listed above using the 'identify' tool from
> > imagemagick.
> 
> u do realise that image will consume 750MB of ram? its quite likely
> that an alloc is failing somewhere that isn't been caught and
> propagated safely. a backtrace would be nice. :)
> 

uuups, no i did not realize, but in any way, it shouldn't be really
segfaulting i believe. Check the available mem and prevent the opening
of the file or such, but segfault, i doubt is a good thing. 

> > Steps to reproduce it:
> > 
> > 1. Start exhibit with the named image from the command line.
> >The display of the image is broken, you just see black with
> > strange stripes, but not the actual image.
> 
> it managed to get that far? it should have just failed at load time!
> 

Yeah, that's what i would have expected. Some popup like : "This image
is too large to be loaded into ram"

> > 2. Start scrolling around, after a few seconds exhibit will
> > segfault.
> > 
> > gdb backtrace:
> > 
> > (gdb) run heic0602a.jpg
> > Starting program: /usr/bin/exhibit heic0602a.jpg
> > Etk Warning: etk_image.c, 608: _etk_image_load: Unable to load image
> > from edje file
> > "/usr//share/etk/icons/default.edj"/"actions/help-contents_16",
> > error 8
> 
> no gdb debugging symbols - this doesnt help a lot. somewhat, but not
> a lot :(
> 

You do need such a backtrace? i could recompile stuff with debugging
symbols and try if need would be, though i'm not completely sure if i
know off the shelf how to do that. (i know about -g and stuff, but i
have no idea how to get this into the efl automake stuff). But i
remember there was a link on get-e.org (remembering now) how to get the
stuff running, will have a look at that if need be.

> > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> > 0xb7c0ed03 in evas_common_copy_pixels_rgba_to_rgba_sse ()
> > from /usr//lib/libevas.so.1 (gdb) bt
> > #0  0xb7c0ed03 in evas_common_copy_pixels_rgba_to_rgba_sse ()
> > from /usr//lib/libevas.so.1 #1  0xb7c23d45 in
> > evas_common_scale_rgba_in_to_out_clip_smooth_mmx ()
> > from /usr//lib/libevas.so.1 #2  0xb7c2bf1f in
> > evas_common_scale_rgba_in_to_out_clip_smooth ()
> > from /usr//lib/libevas.so.1 #3  0xb7e3f74d in ?? ()
> >from 
> > /usr//lib/evas/modules/engines/software_generic/linux-gnu-i486/module.so
> > #4  0x081b3f10 in ?? ()
> > #5  0x080ef778 in ?? ()
> > #6  0x08074e20 in ?? ()
> > #7  0x in ?? ()
> > 
> > here's the image that broke exhibit:
> > 
> > http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/large/heic0602a.jpg
> 
> ok... the image! cool. time to kill things. BTW - chances of that
> image ever loading and displaying are pretty close to zero - as it
> will need more ram in one big block than most systems can manage :(
> 

Yeah, i wonder myself why the guys at the site are providing it, i just
had to have a look at it as it's the bigest image i have every gotten
my hands on (damn, the .tif file has 445 MB, the .jpg 62 mb) But i was
aware that it won't really ever display good. 

If you need anythin else, let me know

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[e-users] Exhibit segfaulting + display failure with large images (problem in EVAS according to gdb)

2006-03-06 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

I've just downloaded a huge image from the spaceteleskope homepage and
tried to view it in exhibit. The result was the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/mh% identify heic0602a.jpg
heic0602a.jpg JPEG 15852x12392 DirectClass 62.1mb 24.060u 1:21

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/mh% exhibit heic0602a.jpg 
zsh: segmentation fault  exhibit heic0602a.jpg

You see the sizes listed above using the 'identify' tool from
imagemagick.

Steps to reproduce it:

1. Start exhibit with the named image from the command line.
   The display of the image is broken, you just see black with strange
stripes, but not the actual image.
2. Start scrolling around, after a few seconds exhibit will segfault.

gdb backtrace:

(gdb) run heic0602a.jpg
Starting program: /usr/bin/exhibit heic0602a.jpg
Etk Warning: etk_image.c, 608: _etk_image_load: Unable to load image
from edje file
"/usr//share/etk/icons/default.edj"/"actions/help-contents_16", error 8

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0xb7c0ed03 in evas_common_copy_pixels_rgba_to_rgba_sse ()
from /usr//lib/libevas.so.1 (gdb) bt
#0  0xb7c0ed03 in evas_common_copy_pixels_rgba_to_rgba_sse ()
from /usr//lib/libevas.so.1 #1  0xb7c23d45 in
evas_common_scale_rgba_in_to_out_clip_smooth_mmx ()
from /usr//lib/libevas.so.1 #2  0xb7c2bf1f in
evas_common_scale_rgba_in_to_out_clip_smooth ()
from /usr//lib/libevas.so.1 #3  0xb7e3f74d in ?? ()
   from /usr//lib/evas/modules/engines/software_generic/linux-gnu-i486/module.so
#4  0x081b3f10 in ?? ()
#5  0x080ef778 in ?? ()
#6  0x08074e20 in ?? ()
#7  0x in ?? ()

here's the image that broke exhibit:

http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/large/heic0602a.jpg

If you need anything else let me know.

Martin

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Re: [e-users] e16.8-Remember ignores command parameters

2006-02-23 Thread Martin Hauser
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:49:05 +0100 (CET)
Pavel Reznicek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>I would like to have top running in a borderless transparent
> window all the time on my desktop. Therefore I have run this command:
> "Eterm --trans -f Orange --scrollbar false --buttonbar false -e top
> -d 00.50" and used the "Remember" function from the widow menu. But
> for some reason, e just remembers command "Eterm" without any
> parameters (stored in file .e16/e_config--0.0.snapshots, and after
> logout-login, just simple Eterm pops-up on the screen). I'm using
> e16.8-0.02 version. This feature was not there with older e16.8
> versions (e16.8-pre1).
>

there was a remember setting for restarting an application at boot
time. It's probably this.

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Re: [e-users] How do you make the pager wrap?

2006-01-28 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

* David Wuertele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote at [20060127 23:20]:
> I would like the Shift-Alt-Arrow keys to allow me to wrap around the
> edges of my pager.  This functionality is the main reason I still use
> E16 on my desktop.  Is there any way to configure or patch the E17
> pager to do it?
>

you should be able to change it using the 'enlightenment_remote' features
of key-bindings. Just look at the way ctrl-alt-arrow works, as it wrappes
around the pager, which shift-alt-arrow as you mentioned doesn't.

Martin

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Re: [e-users] Thinktux.net CVS Mirror

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Hauser

Hi,

> On 26/01/06, Andrew Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > the tarball will be used by DEFAULT.  Using CVS will still be available,
> > just not by DEFAULT.
> >
> > This really is a good thing.
> >
> > -Andrew
> 
> Yes, it is a good thing.
> Would it be possible to add a RSS-Feed to the tarball website so that
> everyone who's subscribed to this feeds gets informed as soon as there
> is a new tarball available? A short comment of what has been changed
> since the last version would be great, too, e.g. "Fixed bug xyz, added
> feature abc."
> I know that this means some additional work (especially for Raster who
> creates the Tarballs), but it would give an overview of the planned
> download. If there's nothing "of interest" for me contained, I might
> not download it. Or I see that a certain feature is available, and I
> can't wait to have it running.
>

This sounds like a good idea for me too, i guess i even think i know how this
could be handled without too much automatition. As far as i understand it,
using the 'cvs' utitility one can also extract the logs from the cvs server.
That way the one who's packing stuff, in this case probably raster, would just
need a script parsing the output since the last date given. I guess after the
finish of my exams (at the 2. of february) i would surely find the time to
provide such a script if it happens that no one has the actual time to write
it, though i rather belive it shouldn't be that big deal. The goal would be
that you just start the script and it actually creates the 'Changelog' + maybe
even creating the tarballs + maybe generating some html changelog. If there is
interest for such a script, let me know.

Just my opinion

Martin

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Re: [e-users] exebuf selection of apps (idea?)

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

* Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote at [20060127 10:29]:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 09:15:55 +0000 Martin Hauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > i can definitely say that exebuf is a great feature of e17, but there is one
> > thing that makes it a bit hard to use it. I couldn't figure out how i can
> > select the app that's not the 1. hit, but the 2. or 3. hit. Like raster
> > mentioned if you search for something that's only in the eaps 'comment' or
> > 'generic' field? Would be great if there is some keyboard stroke and maybe
> > some mouse thingy for that available.
> 
> up/down arrow. :)

Okay, it was so easy and simple that it evaded my mind. Great stuff, really and 
thanks
for the fast answer :-)

Shame on me for not fiddling around a bit more...

> 
> > Thanks in advance and excuse if i was just not able to figure it out.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Martin
> > 
> > 
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[e-users] exebuf selection of apps (idea?)

2006-01-27 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

i can definitely say that exebuf is a great feature of e17, but there is one 
thing that
makes it a bit hard to use it. I couldn't figure out how i can select the app 
that's not the
1. hit, but the 2. or 3. hit. Like raster mentioned if you search for something 
that's 
only in the eaps 'comment' or 'generic' field? Would be great if there is some 
keyboard stroke
and maybe some mouse thingy for that available.

Thanks in advance and excuse if i was just not able to figure it out.

Thanks

Martin


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Re: [e-users] Difficult names and no icons...

2006-01-26 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,


* Foxy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote at [20060126 15:53]:
> Ildar Sagdejev wrote:
> >On 26/01/06, Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >>I understand that everyone needs a cool name for his own little
> >>application as E is looking really cool. But perhaps some intuitive and
> >>easy to remind names are also great. Or am I alone with this opinion?
> >>
> >
> >It's also been taking me a while to remember which app does what.  The
> >first thing I did when I got E with all the goodies was went through
> >the source dir and read the READMEs to figure it out, and I still have
> >to look them up sometimes to remember which is the one I want.
> >
> >I suppose it won't be much of a problem once all the utilities are
> >easily accessible from the menus (in the future).
> >
> >A lot of things aren't obvious at the moment, and require quite a bit
> >of persistence to ask about or figure out.  That's ok with me, since I
> >understand E17 is still in the middle of development, but an easily
> >accessible overview would be appeciated by quite a few newcomers, I
> >think.
> >
> >I'm also interested in hearing other people's opinions on this.
> >
> >-Dusik
> >
> >
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> I like the names but it would be nice to have all E apps in the menu. For 
> some reason even 
> entangle which used to be there now is not. However, as Ildar mentioned e17 
> is still in 
> its alpha state...

Just giving my not very useful comments on it, if there would be something like 
a 'wiki' or
anything like that, i'd believe that people could be putting together the 
applications working
with e. Maybe this could be done without an wiki on get-e.org too... dunno. The 
user-guide there
includes some applications already i think so this is probably a good starting 
point.

In Any Way, there is still a lot of other things which _way_ more priority then 
this and i guess
one day there is something to be done about it.

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Re: [e-users] ECore compilation problems...

2006-01-25 Thread Martin Hauser
ecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to
> `ECORE_CON
> _EVENT_CLIENT_DATA'
> ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to
> `ecore_con
> _server_connected_get'
> ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to
> `ECORE_CON
> _EVENT_CLIENT_ADD'
> ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to
> `ecore_con
> _ssl_available_get'
> ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to
> `ECORE_CON
> _EVENT_SERVER_ADD'
> ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to
> `ecore_con
> _client_data_set'
> ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to
> `ecore_con
> _server_connect'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[3]: *** [ecore_test] Error 1
> make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> 
> Dont know if its my fault, but it happens from yesterday till now when
> i try to build ecore
>

let me guess, gcc 4.0 ?  using gcc 3.4 fixed this problems for me. Hope that 
helps ya

> Thanks
> 
> Oli
> 
> 
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Re: [e-users] Thinktux.net CVS Mirror

2006-01-24 Thread Martin Hauser

Hello,

> >> where supposed to get deleted had not been.
> >
> > thats not the cvs mirror :)
> 
> haha. well why not use subversion?
>

svn is the better alternative probably, i agree. Though the problem here is
that sourceforge is (still) using cvs and i assume that 90% of the people
programming are still used to it.

> >> well enlightenment.freedesktop.org provides tarballs that get made
> whevere cvs
> >> is kind of stable and workable every week or 2 - but people barely use it.
> >> somehow people are addicted to HAVING to use cvs and get the "latest". :/
> >
> > That might be partially the fault of install scripts...
> 
> I agree. I even wrote my own script for such a purpose. It's much
> easier to run a script that takes care of downloading, updating,
> compiling, and installing all in one shot. Just run the script and
> you're done. And I only update about once every 2 weeks or so.
> 

Guess that's a good time window.

> Is there a way to have the script download the tarballs (I'm still
> pretty new to the shell and scripts)? And is everything in those
> tarballs? It seems like the cvs has a lot more applications and libs
> than just those 14 tarballs.

you could probably download using 'wget' or 'curl' (which one you like better).
Both are commandline fetching tools, just paste em the url and they will happily
fetch it. They can even fetch whole websites so better read the manpages first
before you actually implement using them.


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Re: [e-users] Thinktux.net CVS Mirror

2006-01-24 Thread Martin Hauser
Hiho,

> [...] Previous quotes deleted

> 25GB! well then. now we have an idea what it "Takes" to be a cvs mirror... a
> fair bit. thats a constant 3mbit/s of traffic. i assume it spikes during the
> daytime in usa and europe maybe - so i imagine it might creep up to a good
> 10mbit/sec around those times at peaks? thats a lot of traffic. i actually am
> kind of intreigues to find out how many unique clients connect for cvs updates
> over a period of time (ie a rough guess at how many people are using cvs).
> 

I assume you won't be able to stand the interest in it without some load 
balancing,
assuming you get more then one mirror. Maybe load could be reduced a bit more by
providing nightly snapshots? For people like me that'd be okay, i don't update 
too
often. (assuming the snapshots are rebuild _every_ night).

just my oppinion.


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Re: [e-users] cvs access?

2006-01-23 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

* Walter Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote at [20060122 22:55]:
> Geoffrey wrote:
> >Be kind, very inexperienced with cvs...
> >
> >I've not been able to get to cvs of late, with the following:
> >
> >cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/enlightenment login
> >
> >returns the following:
> >
> >Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvsroot/enlightenment
> >
> >CVS password:
> >
> >cvs [login aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any
> >
> >Suggestions?
> >
> 
> write a shell script or a shell function invoking cvs until the return code 
> equals 0. 
> Thats what I'm doing with success. 
>

I don't see any problem writing a shell-script for the checkout _as long as_ 
you have some
reasonable sleep before trying again (hmm, maybe give it 15 minutes, maybe try 
twice (taking into
account that it worked after the 2. try 90% of the time and then wait for an 
hour or so...). As said
below retries generate additional load on a group of already overloaded cvs 
servers. Someone said
that sourceforge is victim to it's own success and there you can feel it's 
true. If stuff's not working
just go ahead and try the thinktux mirror.

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Re: [e-users] e17 compilation problem

2006-01-20 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

* Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote at [20060120 02:48]:
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:39:35 +0100 Grzegorz Andrelczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> babbled:
> 
> > Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 12:56:16PM +0900 Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > napisa$(D)H:
> > > 
> > > oh - u are building debian packages of evas for install? no wonder.
> > > rememebr we dont keep the packaging info up to date with the src all the
> > > time - it lags behind. 
> > 
> > So it is better to do make && make install?
> 
> well - unless you are willing to maintain and fix the debian build files - 
> yes.
> don't expect them to "just work" - use them more of a guideline idea of how to
> start building a proper package - AFTEr u know how evas builds and what it
> builds and where it puts it and why it needs it/uses it.
>

The last few times i had Problems with the Debian Packages it was rather a 
complete
problem of the source then the packaging build.

> > > it is there as a convenience for package maintainers to keep their
> > > packaging info with the soruce it packages to save time. i have updated
> > > the .spec file and i did some changes to the debian packageing stuff - but
> > > its definitely NOT done properly. evas's build now makes packaging it for
> > > debian proeprly HARD as u needto package each module separately but what
> > > modules get built is dependnat on the dependencies found on the system
> > > while the pakcages get built.
> > > 
> > 
> > Here I'm a little bit lost. I'm not a package maintainer
> > yet I found only dpkg-buildpackage very handy tool i
> > debian\ exist and is valid. ;)
> 
> then i suggets u install everything from source - in a prefix u can simply rm
> -rf (eg /opt/e17) and add the lib dir to ld.so.conf and the bin dir to your or
> the system''s default $PATH.
>

Hmm, the problem with this is, as far as i can see, that if you start building 
your
new enlightenment checkout and then it fails somewhere, you've lost your 
working version
of e17. Thats in my eyes the advantages of using the 'debian/' stuff directory 
if you
are on a debian machine. Though you could also just build a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 
from
the tree before starting a new build, so the point of you is maybe a good idea. 
Hmm.

Especially as you say they are not really maintained.

> > I downloaded fresh CVS and it seems modules now are in
> > package libevas0. Thanks. :) But... now I get this:
> > 
> > :~> evas_software_x11_test
> > evas_software_x11_test: symbol lookup error:
> > /usr/lib/evas/modules/loaders/png/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.so:
> > undefined symbol: png_check_sig
> 
> strange - as that module is LINKED to libpng:
> 
> [ 11:46AM ~ ]
> ldd /usr/local/lib/evas/modules/loaders/png/linux-gnu-x86_64/module.so
> libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x2abbb000) libz.so.1
> => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x2acdf000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6
> (0x2adf6000) ...
> 
> > I also made make && make install. Same error.
> 
> again - strange. works here - debian SID (amd64 AND ix86 as all of my machines
> run debian across p3, p4, pentium-m and amd64 cpu's)

I've seen that Problem on my checkout 2 days ago (i think). But as i checked 
out again
yesterday morning, it was gone. I have the feeling there was just something 
that got
fixed in CVS overnight.

Anyway, just my opinion

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[e-users] problems building efl since evas change

2006-01-15 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello again,

Evas seems not yet to work right, or rather i guess ecore or some
other package has not been upgraded to the latest changes. In particular
emotion fails to build, but i guess it's just the first occasion in
my build order where edje_cc is used as it's the program which's failing.
I could be completely wrong though. Here's an excerpt from the build
proccess (the errors):

make[3]: Entering directory `/home/mh/build/enlightenment/e17/libs/emotion/data'
edje_cc -v -id ../data -fd ../data \
../data/theme.edc \
../data/theme.edj
edje_cc: Opening "/tmp/edje_cc.edc-tmp-Zd1Sxp" for input
edje_cc: Parsing input file
edje_cc: Parsing done
edje_cc: Wrote   520 bytes (   1Kb) for "edje_file" header

*** ECORE ERROR: Ecore Magic Check Failed!!!
*** IN FUNCTION: ecore_evas_get()
  Input handle pointer is NULL!
*** NAUGHTY PROGRAMMER!!!
*** SPANK SPANK SPANK!!!
*** Now go fix your code. Tut tut tut!

edje_cc: Error. unable to load image for image "tiles.png" part entry to 
../data/theme.edj
make[3]: *** [theme.edj] Error 255
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/mh/build/enlightenment/e17/libs/emotion/data'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mh/build/enlightenment/e17/libs/emotion'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mh/build/enlightenment/e17/libs/emotion'
make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2

hope that helps fixing the problem, if ya need more input on it, let me know

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[e-users] Evas_Engine_Software_X11.h

2006-01-14 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

Just been rebuilding enlightenment from a cvs update and strangely the new 
Makefile.am and Makefile.in
in e17/libs/evas/src/lib/ do not include Evas_Engine_Software_X11.h anymore 
which is required by ecore
for example. Wondering if this is an error or a change which evas is undergoing?

Thanks for information

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Re: [e-users] anoncvs - out of space?

2006-01-07 Thread Martin Hauser
Hi,

* David Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote at [20060107 07:16]:
> On updating from anoncvs, these "can't create temporary directory" error
> messages right now are from the cvs server right?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src$ ./update-e.sh
> Setting up for enlightenment cvs
> Set CVSROOT to :
> pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvsroot/enlightenment
> can't create temporary directory /tmp/cvs-serv23957
> No space left on device
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src$ ./update-e.sh
> Setting up for enlightenment cvs
> Set CVSROOT to :
> pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvsroot/enlightenment
> can't create temporary directory /tmp/cvs-serv23971
> No space left on device
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src$

just dropping by to confirm that issue and i've been not using update-e.sh.
Guess someone on sourceforge stuff needs to clean up their /tmp or
something like that, doubt anyone here on the list can do much about
it?

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[e-users] e-core compile problems with 4.0

2006-01-03 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

i've seen several issues building ecore (lot's of spam about different 
visibility
of a real heap of function (all functions? )) which ended up in at the end 
breaking
the whole build process. I assume it was just that certain functions couldn't be
seen in the library so linking the test programm against them failed. i though 
managed
to build it without any errors with gcc 3.4. After browsing the source code of 
ecore
libs a bit, i noticed that there are some things with visibility applied, maybe 
those
have been gotten wrong, or the gcc 4.0 is not yet stable enough. Just to let 
you know,
if you'd need a full trace of the problem ( i believe the build process in this 
case
produces only a lot of spam, which is in my oppinion better described in those
view sentences above) let me know.

the version of the gcc that broke is
(GCC) 4.0.3 20051201 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-5)

if this is really gcc related then sorry for the bother.

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[e-users] (no subject)

2005-12-22 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

The rebuild of my e17 from cvs has some strange behaviour towards the config 
dialogs for modules. First of all, removing the ibar module will make 
enlightenment segfault. Also trying to enable the ibox module will make it 
segfault. There were some more segfaults regarding this,
but i believe the are all related to the dialogs, as enabling via 
enlightenment_remote works fine for me.

Just to let you know

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Re: [e-users] configuration panel & entrance for unprivileged users

2005-12-15 Thread Martin Hauser
Hello,

> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > i'm new to enlightenment and after using fluxbox it's just great! :)
> > However i've got two problems i couldn't manage to solve. I installed
> > the debian packages enlightenment 0.16.999.018-1 and entrance
> > 0.9.0.004-1 from soulmachine.net .
> > 
> > The first problem is easy to describe:
> > The configuration panel is completely empty
> 
> That might be a snapshot from a transitional period in the config panel
> where it was in fact totally empty. There is stuff there in CVS, but
> shadoi hasn't updated the snapshots in a while, since things have been
> a little more unstable than usual lately. Keep an eye out for updates,
> or build from CVS if you want more up to date stuff(:
> 

that might be. As an note from a debian user, it's fairly easy to get your own
debian packages from the libs, e, eclair, e_utils and e_modules (haven't tried
others). This is cause the debian/ directory for each directory is already
created by the enlightenment crew so you don't have to handle that. Just in
each directory of the cvs run: 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' and in the end
you will, after successful compilation, have in hand a set of .deb files for
ya.

> > the second thing is:
> > i can start enlightenment as user "muck" from the console
> > i can start enlightenment as root from entrance
> > but i can't start enlightenment as "muck" from entrance, it seems to
> > start but then i get back to entrance again
> > 
> > Anyone encountered similar problems?
> 
> I believe this is a problem with pam configuration, although I'm not
> entirely sure. You aren't alone in this problem though.
> 

Sounds very much like a permissions problem.

Greets

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Re: [e-users] Keybindings e16

2005-05-17 Thread Martin Hauser
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Hello,


> Hi,
>
> is there a way to have other Keymodifier then CTRL, ALT, SHIFT and
> their combinations?
> I tried "__MODIFIER_KEY __F12" in the keybindings.cfg, but it didn't
> work.
>

yes you can have other modifiers... like the win-key mod3 mod4 and mod5 to
whatever they are mapped on your x-server. Though i'm mainly using
e16keyedit to archive my goals to setup keybindings on e16... so, sorry no
idea how exactly they are called. Hope it helps anyway

Greetings

Martin

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