Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:32:42 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said:

no gdb installed? yama ptrace inhibition enabled? you need gdb debugging
symbols to make this useful - no compiled symbols?

 Thank  you, but with and  without locate, there is no :
 
 ~/.e-crashdump.txt.
 
 in my home directory (and yes, I know how to do ls -lha  | grep crash)
 
 There is some parameter not enabled somewhere.
 
 
 On 04/18/2015 03:47 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:43:32 +0200 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com
  said:
 
  Don't use locate to find new files, likely it will not tell you about
  them until you (or a cron job) call updatedb. Just look for a file
  called ~/.e-crashdump.txt.
  indeed - literally THAT file (~/ is your homedir) is created. only that
  file - you dont need to locate.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-18 Thread Pierre Couderc
Well,
1- No, I have not installed gdb (I never use debuggers, but I add traces 
in my programs when needed), but I am ready to do it if it helps.
2- I do not know if symbols are compiled, but I have not changed any of 
the default compile options.
3- I do not know what yama ptrace  is, but I have done sudo sysctl -w 
kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0
I have installed nothing other than what is in e19 instructions of 
compilation with default parameters.
Is there a howto somewhere to prepare to get ~/.e-crashdump.txt ?


On 04/18/2015 04:50 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:32:42 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said:

 no gdb installed? yama ptrace inhibition enabled? you need gdb debugging
 symbols to make this useful - no compiled symbols?

 Thank  you, but with and  without locate, there is no :

 ~/.e-crashdump.txt.

 in my home directory (and yes, I know how to do ls -lha  | grep crash)

 There is some parameter not enabled somewhere.


 On 04/18/2015 03:47 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:43:32 +0200 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com
 said:

 Don't use locate to find new files, likely it will not tell you about
 them until you (or a cron job) call updatedb. Just look for a file
 called ~/.e-crashdump.txt.
 indeed - literally THAT file (~/ is your homedir) is created. only that
 file - you dont need to locate.



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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-18 Thread Philippe Jean Guillaumie


On 04/18/2015 05:18 PM, Pierre Couderc wrote:
 Well,
 1- No, I have not installed gdb (I never use debuggers, but I add traces 
 in my programs when needed), but I am ready to do it if it helps.
 2- I do not know if symbols are compiled, but I have not changed any of 
 the default compile options.
 3- I do not know what yama ptrace  is, but I have done sudo sysctl -w 
 kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0
 I have installed nothing other than what is in e19 instructions of 
 compilation with default parameters.
 Is there a howto somewhere to prepare to get ~/.e-crashdump.txt ?

This may help you:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2203190p=13012014#post13012014

Look at the function called 'rebuild_for_debug'.

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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:18:19 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said:

 Well,
 1- No, I have not installed gdb (I never use debuggers, but I add traces 
 in my programs when needed), but I am ready to do it if it helps.
 2- I do not know if symbols are compiled, but I have not changed any of 
 the default compile options.
 3- I do not know what yama ptrace  is, but I have done sudo sysctl -w 
 kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0
 I have installed nothing other than what is in e19 instructions of 
 compilation with default parameters.
 Is there a howto somewhere to prepare to get ~/.e-crashdump.txt ?

that is why i gave you those questions. no gdb - no crashdump. yama ptrace not
off - no crashdump. no gdb debug symbols - crashdump not that useful. no
testing on git master - also kind of useless as we don't know if the bug is
fixed other than i have run darktable - messed around, seen no crashes, and
thus am assuming the bug is gone now.

 
 On 04/18/2015 04:50 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:32:42 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said:
 
  no gdb installed? yama ptrace inhibition enabled? you need gdb debugging
  symbols to make this useful - no compiled symbols?
 
  Thank  you, but with and  without locate, there is no :
 
  ~/.e-crashdump.txt.
 
  in my home directory (and yes, I know how to do ls -lha  | grep crash)
 
  There is some parameter not enabled somewhere.
 
 
  On 04/18/2015 03:47 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:43:32 +0200 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com
  said:
 
  Don't use locate to find new files, likely it will not tell you about
  them until you (or a cron job) call updatedb. Just look for a file
  called ~/.e-crashdump.txt.
  indeed - literally THAT file (~/ is your homedir) is created. only that
  file - you dont need to locate.
 
 
 
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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-18 Thread Pierre Couderc
Grazie Massimo.
Please see my point 4 just below.

On 04/17/2015 05:43 PM, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
 Don't use locate to find new files, likely it will not tell you about
 them until you (or a cron job) call updatedb. Just look for a file
 called ~/.e-crashdump.txt.

 Pierre Couderc ha scritto il 17/04/2015 alle 17:33:
 Thank you.

 1- I use debian jessie and e19 built by me with no option at all from
 git  but with git checkout v0.19.4.
 Particularly, I have not explicitely modified files to add -g and
 -ggdb3 in CFLAGS. Should I do that?
 The pattern gdb does not exist in my
 /usr/local/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf. Should I add it ?
 how ?
 Is there some hotwto whech explains that ?
 2- when I :

 sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

 I get in echo

 kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

 3- after 2, and test and crash, I find nothing in locate crashdump
 (4- yes , I have done a sudo updatedb).
 It seems it is not generated.

 On 04/17/2015 03:40 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:34:41 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  said:

 Well.
 I do not find anything with
 locate crashdump
 But I am ready to compile with debug symbols if I am told how to do.
 I do not use git master as it is my production computer, but I a ready
 to make a trial it if it helps.
 I am glad to contribute with my tests and reports.
 white box of death means you should get ~/.e-crashdump.txt - unless your 
 distro
 has yama ptrace inhibited.

 sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

 will enable  ptrace and crashdumps again. (until you reboot)

 PC


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 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:00:47 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  
 said:

 I have compiled an application - gtk3 based- and I have many crashes
 with it under e0.19.4.
 The crash is Enlightenment error, and recover F1 works ok.
 When I say many, it is systematic when I hoover more than 2 seconds over
 any button.
 Is there something known about this kind of problem ?
 nope - get a backtrace. e dumps ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... i do hope you have
 debug symbols. also - does it still happen on git master?

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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-18 Thread Pierre Couderc
Thank  you, but with and  without locate, there is no :

~/.e-crashdump.txt.

in my home directory (and yes, I know how to do ls -lha  | grep crash)

There is some parameter not enabled somewhere.


On 04/18/2015 03:47 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:43:32 +0200 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com said:

 Don't use locate to find new files, likely it will not tell you about
 them until you (or a cron job) call updatedb. Just look for a file
 called ~/.e-crashdump.txt.
 indeed - literally THAT file (~/ is your homedir) is created. only that file -
 you dont need to locate.




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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-18 Thread Massimo Maiurana
Ouch, sorry, didn't see that :)

Pierre Couderc ha scritto il 18/04/2015 alle 09:22:
 Grazie Massimo.
 Please see my point 4 just below.
 
 On 04/17/2015 05:43 PM, Massimo Maiurana wrote:
 Don't use locate to find new files, likely it will not tell you about
 them until you (or a cron job) call updatedb. Just look for a file
 called ~/.e-crashdump.txt.

 Pierre Couderc ha scritto il 17/04/2015 alle 17:33:
 Thank you.

 1- I use debian jessie and e19 built by me with no option at all from
 git  but with git checkout v0.19.4.
 Particularly, I have not explicitely modified files to add -g and
 -ggdb3 in CFLAGS. Should I do that?
 The pattern gdb does not exist in my
 /usr/local/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf. Should I add it ?
 how ?
 Is there some hotwto whech explains that ?
 2- when I :

 sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

 I get in echo

 kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

 3- after 2, and test and crash, I find nothing in locate crashdump
 (4- yes , I have done a sudo updatedb).
 It seems it is not generated.

 On 04/17/2015 03:40 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:34:41 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  said:

 Well.
 I do not find anything with
 locate crashdump
 But I am ready to compile with debug symbols if I am told how to do.
 I do not use git master as it is my production computer, but I a ready
 to make a trial it if it helps.
 I am glad to contribute with my tests and reports.
 white box of death means you should get ~/.e-crashdump.txt - unless your 
 distro
 has yama ptrace inhibited.

 sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

 will enable  ptrace and crashdumps again. (until you reboot)

 PC


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 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:00:47 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  
 said:

 I have compiled an application - gtk3 based- and I have many crashes
 with it under e0.19.4.
 The crash is Enlightenment error, and recover F1 works ok.
 When I say many, it is systematic when I hoover more than 2 seconds over
 any button.
 Is there something known about this kind of problem ?
 nope - get a backtrace. e dumps ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... i do hope you have
 debug symbols. also - does it still happen on git master?

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[e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-17 Thread Pierre Couderc
I have compiled an application - gtk3 based- and I have many crashes 
with it under e0.19.4.
The crash is Enlightenment error, and recover F1 works ok.
When I say many, it is systematic when I hoover more than 2 seconds over 
any button.
Is there something known about this kind of problem ?

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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-17 Thread Pierre Couderc
Well.
I do not find anything with
locate crashdump
But I am ready to compile with debug symbols if I am told how to do.
I do not use git master as it is my production computer, but I a ready 
to make a trial it if it helps.
I am glad to contribute with my tests and reports.

PC


On 04/17/2015 12:16 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:00:47 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said:

 I have compiled an application - gtk3 based- and I have many crashes
 with it under e0.19.4.
 The crash is Enlightenment error, and recover F1 works ok.
 When I say many, it is systematic when I hoover more than 2 seconds over
 any button.
 Is there something known about this kind of problem ?
 nope - get a backtrace. e dumps ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... i do hope you have 
 debug
 symbols. also - does it still happen on git master?



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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:34:41 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said:

 Well.
 I do not find anything with
 locate crashdump
 But I am ready to compile with debug symbols if I am told how to do.
 I do not use git master as it is my production computer, but I a ready 
 to make a trial it if it helps.
 I am glad to contribute with my tests and reports.

white box of death means you should get ~/.e-crashdump.txt - unless your distro
has yama ptrace inhibited.

sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

will enable  ptrace and crashdumps again. (until you reboot)

 PC
 
 
 On 04/17/2015 12:16 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:00:47 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said:
 
  I have compiled an application - gtk3 based- and I have many crashes
  with it under e0.19.4.
  The crash is Enlightenment error, and recover F1 works ok.
  When I say many, it is systematic when I hoover more than 2 seconds over
  any button.
  Is there something known about this kind of problem ?
  nope - get a backtrace. e dumps ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... i do hope you have
  debug symbols. also - does it still happen on git master?
 
 
 
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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:00:47 +0200 Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu said:

 I have compiled an application - gtk3 based- and I have many crashes 
 with it under e0.19.4.
 The crash is Enlightenment error, and recover F1 works ok.
 When I say many, it is systematic when I hoover more than 2 seconds over 
 any button.
 Is there something known about this kind of problem ?

nope - get a backtrace. e dumps ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... i do hope you have debug
symbols. also - does it still happen on git master?

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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-17 Thread Massimo Maiurana
Don't use locate to find new files, likely it will not tell you about
them until you (or a cron job) call updatedb. Just look for a file
called ~/.e-crashdump.txt.

Pierre Couderc ha scritto il 17/04/2015 alle 17:33:
 Thank you.
 
 1- I use debian jessie and e19 built by me with no option at all from 
 git  but with git checkout v0.19.4.
 Particularly, I have not explicitely modified files to add -g and 
 -ggdb3 in CFLAGS. Should I do that?
 The pattern gdb does not exist in my 
 /usr/local/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf. Should I add it ?
 how ?
 Is there some hotwto whech explains that ?
 2- when I :
 
 sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0
 
 I get in echo
 
 kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0
 
 3- after 2, and test and crash, I find nothing in locate crashdump
 (4- yes , I have done a sudo updatedb).
 It seems it is not generated.
 
 On 04/17/2015 03:40 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:34:41 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  said:

 Well.
 I do not find anything with
 locate crashdump
 But I am ready to compile with debug symbols if I am told how to do.
 I do not use git master as it is my production computer, but I a ready
 to make a trial it if it helps.
 I am glad to contribute with my tests and reports.
 white box of death means you should get ~/.e-crashdump.txt - unless your 
 distro
 has yama ptrace inhibited.

 sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

 will enable  ptrace and crashdumps again. (until you reboot)

 PC


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 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:00:47 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  said:

 I have compiled an application - gtk3 based- and I have many crashes
 with it under e0.19.4.
 The crash is Enlightenment error, and recover F1 works ok.
 When I say many, it is systematic when I hoover more than 2 seconds over
 any button.
 Is there something known about this kind of problem ?
 nope - get a backtrace. e dumps ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... i do hope you have
 debug symbols. also - does it still happen on git master?

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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-17 Thread Pierre Couderc
Thank you.

1- I use debian jessie and e19 built by me with no option at all from 
git  but with git checkout v0.19.4.
Particularly, I have not explicitely modified files to add -g and 
-ggdb3 in CFLAGS. Should I do that?
The pattern gdb does not exist in my 
/usr/local/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf. Should I add it ?
how ?
Is there some hotwto whech explains that ?
2- when I :

sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

I get in echo

kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

3- after 2, and test and crash, I find nothing in locate crashdump
(4- yes , I have done a sudo updatedb).
It seems it is not generated.

On 04/17/2015 03:40 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:34:41 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  said:

 Well.
 I do not find anything with
 locate crashdump
 But I am ready to compile with debug symbols if I am told how to do.
 I do not use git master as it is my production computer, but I a ready
 to make a trial it if it helps.
 I am glad to contribute with my tests and reports.
 white box of death means you should get ~/.e-crashdump.txt - unless your 
 distro
 has yama ptrace inhibited.

 sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0

 will enable  ptrace and crashdumps again. (until you reboot)

 PC


 On 04/17/2015 12:16 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:00:47 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  said:

 I have compiled an application - gtk3 based- and I have many crashes
 with it under e0.19.4.
 The crash is Enlightenment error, and recover F1 works ok.
 When I say many, it is systematic when I hoover more than 2 seconds over
 any button.
 Is there something known about this kind of problem ?
 nope - get a backtrace. e dumps ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... i do hope you have
 debug symbols. also - does it still happen on git master?

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Re: [e-users] Crashes with darktable

2015-04-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:43:32 +0200 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com said:

 Don't use locate to find new files, likely it will not tell you about
 them until you (or a cron job) call updatedb. Just look for a file
 called ~/.e-crashdump.txt.

indeed - literally THAT file (~/ is your homedir) is created. only that file -
you dont need to locate.

 Pierre Couderc ha scritto il 17/04/2015 alle 17:33:
  Thank you.
  
  1- I use debian jessie and e19 built by me with no option at all from 
  git  but with git checkout v0.19.4.
  Particularly, I have not explicitely modified files to add -g and 
  -ggdb3 in CFLAGS. Should I do that?
  The pattern gdb does not exist in my 
  /usr/local/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf. Should I add it ?
  how ?
  Is there some hotwto whech explains that ?
  2- when I :
  
  sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0
  
  I get in echo
  
  kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0
  
  3- after 2, and test and crash, I find nothing in locate crashdump
  (4- yes , I have done a sudo updatedb).
  It seems it is not generated.
  
  On 04/17/2015 03:40 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 15:34:41 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu  said:
 
  Well.
  I do not find anything with
  locate crashdump
  But I am ready to compile with debug symbols if I am told how to do.
  I do not use git master as it is my production computer, but I a ready
  to make a trial it if it helps.
  I am glad to contribute with my tests and reports.
  white box of death means you should get ~/.e-crashdump.txt - unless your
  distro has yama ptrace inhibited.
 
  sudo sysctl -w kernel.yama.ptrace_scope=0
 
  will enable  ptrace and crashdumps again. (until you reboot)
 
  PC
 
 
  On 04/17/2015 12:16 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
  On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 09:00:47 +0200 Pierre Coudercpie...@couderc.eu
  said:
 
  I have compiled an application - gtk3 based- and I have many crashes
  with it under e0.19.4.
  The crash is Enlightenment error, and recover F1 works ok.
  When I say many, it is systematic when I hoover more than 2 seconds over
  any button.
  Is there something known about this kind of problem ?
  nope - get a backtrace. e dumps ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... i do hope you have
  debug symbols. also - does it still happen on git master?
 
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