Re: [e-users] Position bug?

2006-09-05 Thread Anders Troback
Hi,

I'm not 100% sure but I think that things are worse now! As soon as I
close a program all the remember settings are gone!

Can anyone please confirm this!


\\troback

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:42:16 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:07:34 +0200 Anders Troback
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 
  
  
  On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:03:23 +0900
  Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:25:21 +0200 Anders Troback
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
   
Hi,

I tell a program to remember it's virtual desktop and position.
When I start the program from an other desktop or from
startup/.order the program starts on the desired desktop but the
position are wrong. It always starts in the upper left corner!

And now the program has a new position in memory and will start
in the corner every time until I move it to a new position!

Bug or a feature? ;-)
   
   maybe the app is asking to be at 0,0? have you also set locks to
   lock the windows position (and size) and remember those locks?
   
  
  Yepp, no change! I didn't  try out all my apps but the app I first
  noticed it on was Gaim and I tested it with Firefox and
  Sylpheed-Claws to!
 
 found it - fixed. :)
 
 



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Re: [e-users] Position bug?

2006-09-05 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:22:20 +0200 Anders Troback
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 I'm not 100% sure but I think that things are worse now! As soon as I
 close a program all the remember settings are gone!
 
 Can anyone please confirm this!

It's working better for me now.


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Re: [e-users] Position bug?

2006-09-04 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:25:21 +0200 Anders Troback
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tell a program to remember it's virtual desktop and position.
 When I start the program from an other desktop or from startup/.order
 the program starts on the desired desktop but the position are wrong.
 It always starts in the upper left corner!
 
 And now the program has a new position in memory and will start in the
 corner every time until I move it to a new position!

Further to that, if you are on the virtual desktop that it is
remembered as being on, then you get you remembered settings for that
window.  Not all windows get moved to their remembered virtual desktop
either, but again, if you are on the correct desktop, then the settings
kick in.  It's not just the position that is wrong either.

I think we really need an advanced dialog that shows all the remembered
settings for all the windows it has remembered, like E16 has (or had,
it's been a while since I used E16).  Then at least us developers have
some idea what is really going on and can help sort out the that app
isn't easily tracked from the E is buggy issues.

I know it's a hard job for E to track windows coz not all apps
cooperate.  Its a hard job for users to know wtf is going wrong with
remember settings when there are no tools to help find out whet E is
trying to do and what the apps are doing to stuff E up.  raster, I
think you mentioned to me in the past that E tracks changes to things
like window class and title, this advanced dialog should show all
information that E is using.  In combination with the windows
properties dialog, we at least will have some hope of figuring out what
is going on.

At the moment its like shooting in the dark everytime the remember
behaviour changes and our windows don't remember properly.  Wiping the
config and trying random settings again is no fun.


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Re: [e-users] Position bug?

2006-09-04 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:25:21 +0200 Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 Hi,
 
 I tell a program to remember it's virtual desktop and position.
 When I start the program from an other desktop or from startup/.order
 the program starts on the desired desktop but the position are wrong. It
 always starts in the upper left corner!
 
 And now the program has a new position in memory and will start in the
 corner every time until I move it to a new position!
 
 Bug or a feature? ;-)

maybe the app is asking to be at 0,0? have you also set locks to lock the
windows position (and size) and remember those locks?

 
 \\troback
 
 
 PS. Sorry for the cross posting but I did send this the the dev list
 but there was no answer so I thought that some of the users may know
 something...!
 
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Re: [e-users] Position bug?

2006-09-04 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:13:48 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:25:21 +0200 Anders Troback
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I tell a program to remember it's virtual desktop and position.
  When I start the program from an other desktop or from startup/.order
  the program starts on the desired desktop but the position are wrong.
  It always starts in the upper left corner!
  
  And now the program has a new position in memory and will start in the
  corner every time until I move it to a new position!
 
 Further to that, if you are on the virtual desktop that it is
 remembered as being on, then you get you remembered settings for that
 window.  Not all windows get moved to their remembered virtual desktop
 either, but again, if you are on the correct desktop, then the settings
 kick in.  It's not just the position that is wrong either.

interesting. this didnt used to happen. it used to work... hrrrm.

 I think we really need an advanced dialog that shows all the remembered
 settings for all the windows it has remembered, like E16 has (or had,
 it's been a while since I used E16).  Then at least us developers have
 some idea what is really going on and can help sort out the that app
 isn't easily tracked from the E is buggy issues.
 
 I know it's a hard job for E to track windows coz not all apps
 cooperate.  Its a hard job for users to know wtf is going wrong with
 remember settings when there are no tools to help find out whet E is
 trying to do and what the apps are doing to stuff E up.  raster, I
 think you mentioned to me in the past that E tracks changes to things
 like window class and title, this advanced dialog should show all
 information that E is using.  In combination with the windows
 properties dialog, we at least will have some hope of figuring out what
 is going on.
 
 At the moment its like shooting in the dark everytime the remember
 behaviour changes and our windows don't remember properly.  Wiping the
 config and trying random settings again is no fun.
 


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Re: [e-users] Position bug?

2006-09-04 Thread Anders Troback


On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:03:23 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:25:21 +0200 Anders Troback
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 
  Hi,
  
  I tell a program to remember it's virtual desktop and position.
  When I start the program from an other desktop or from
  startup/.order the program starts on the desired desktop but the
  position are wrong. It always starts in the upper left corner!
  
  And now the program has a new position in memory and will start in
  the corner every time until I move it to a new position!
  
  Bug or a feature? ;-)
 
 maybe the app is asking to be at 0,0? have you also set locks to lock
 the windows position (and size) and remember those locks?
 

Yepp, no change! I didn't  try out all my apps but the app I first
noticed it on was Gaim and I tested it with Firefox and
Sylpheed-Claws to!

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[e-users] Position bug?

2006-09-03 Thread Anders Troback
Hi,

I tell a program to remember it's virtual desktop and position.
When I start the program from an other desktop or from startup/.order
the program starts on the desired desktop but the position are wrong. It
always starts in the upper left corner!

And now the program has a new position in memory and will start in the
corner every time until I move it to a new position!

Bug or a feature? ;-)


\\troback


PS. Sorry for the cross posting but I did send this the the dev list
but there was no answer so I thought that some of the users may know
something...!

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