Re: [e-users] Setting dont-cover attribute of windows
The Wanderer wrote: I'm using e16 under Debian sid, and from the first time I did so, certain windows - gkrellm and the pager - exhibited this never_use_area behaviour; then (about three months ago) I ran apt-get upgrade and suddenly the behaviour was no longer present. Does anyone have any idea as to either why the behaviour seemed to be automatic before, or what changed to cause it to cease? I can work around the problem now, by giving the above command for each desired window in my .xsession file, but I'd still rather know what happened. You probably got e16 upgraded from 0.16.6 to 0.16.7.2. The default maximize policy was changed from conservative to available (see actionclasses.cfg), which could explain what you are seeing. While I'm here: a couple of other desirable behaviours changed at the same time - notably the fact that the Switch to desktop where dialog appears setting under Pager Settings now appears to be applied to *every* window, despite the fact that that toggle is set to off. It's somewhat less aggravating than the other issue, but I'd still rather avoid it; any ideas what changed, as above, and/or how to fix it?. Probably one of the Focus or Window Placement options behaves differently than in 0.16.6. /Kim --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Setting dont-cover attribute of windows
Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: Alt + right-click -- set stacking -- on top Is this possible in e17? If not, how would one prevent windows covering engage, the pager etc.? Alt + right-click -- Stacking -- Always on top The pager and engage (as module) are't windows, they're desktop modules and are therefor alyways below. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Setting dont-cover attribute of windows
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 02:50:52AM +0100, Shish wrote: I am using e16 on my Gentoo linux box. I would like to hove some special windows (like the pager, the iconbox and the systray) to have the dont-cover attribute set. How can it be done? Alt + right-click -- set stacking -- on top I am trying to not cover those special windows when a window is maximized. Acording to a message posted by Kim Woelders on enlightenment-devel some time ago, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=enlightenment-develm=107305772608537w=2 there are four options for the maximize operation: conservative, available, absolute and xinerama, and the available option do not cover windows with the dont-cover attribute, like the gnome-panel. I have tested it and it does work with gnome-panel. But it does not work with the iconbox, for instance, even when its stacking is set to on top as sugested by Shish. In fact it does not wor irrespective of the stacking setting of the window. What the on top stacking makes is keep the window on top of other windows, maybe covering part of other windows, but never being covered. This makes me believe that the dont-cover attribute is not the same as the stacking: on top attribute. Maybe somebody could clarify this topic for us. Regards. Romildo Try doing: enlightenment_remote --maximize-policy-set SMART This should make it so that 'maximizing' the windows still wont cover up your modules. It worked for me. -Sid --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Setting dont-cover attribute of windows
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: enlightenment_remote --maximize-policy-set SMART enlightenment_remote commands only start with one dash: $ enlightenment_remote -maximize-policy-set SMART This should make it so that 'maximizing' the windows still wont cover up your modules. It worked for me. Thanks for this one! That's what I was lookin for! Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Setting dont-cover attribute of windows
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 02:50:52AM +0100, Shish wrote: I am using e16 on my Gentoo linux box. I would like to hove some special windows (like the pager, the iconbox and the systray) to have the dont-cover attribute set. How can it be done? Alt + right-click -- set stacking -- on top I am trying to not cover those special windows when a window is maximized. Acording to a message posted by Kim Woelders on enlightenment-devel some time ago, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=enlightenment-develm=107305772608537w=2 there are four options for the maximize operation: conservative, available, absolute and xinerama, and the available option do not cover windows with the dont-cover attribute, like the gnome-panel. I have tested it and it does work with gnome-panel. But it does not work with the iconbox, for instance, even when its stacking is set to on top as sugested by Shish. In fact it does not wor irrespective of the stacking setting of the window. What the on top stacking makes is keep the window on top of other windows, maybe covering part of other windows, but never being covered. This makes me believe that the dont-cover attribute is not the same as the stacking: on top attribute. Maybe somebody could clarify this topic for us. You are right, it is a different attribute. In e16 this window attribute can be set using eesh, e.g.: $ eesh wop Iconbox never_use_area on Unfortunately, this setting is not remembered atm. /Kim --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Setting dont-cover attribute of windows
On Tue, 2005-26-07 at 09:03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try doing: enlightenment_remote --maximize-policy-set SMART This should make it so that 'maximizing' the windows still wont cover up your modules. It worked for me. Awesome: thanks! Regards, Ranbir -- Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu Systems Aligned Inc. www.systemsaligned.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Setting dont-cover attribute of windows
Kim Woelders wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 02:50:52AM +0100, Shish wrote: Alt + right-click -- set stacking -- on top I am trying to not cover those special windows when a window is maximized. Acording to a message posted by Kim Woelders on enlightenment-devel some time ago, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=enlightenment-develm=107305772608537w=2 there are four options for the maximize operation: conservative, available, absolute and xinerama, and the available option do not cover windows with the dont-cover attribute, like the gnome-panel. I have tested it and it does work with gnome-panel. But it does not work with the iconbox, for instance, even when its stacking is set to on top as sugested by Shish. In fact it does not wor irrespective of the stacking setting of the window. What the on top stacking makes is keep the window on top of other windows, maybe covering part of other windows, but never being covered. This makes me believe that the dont-cover attribute is not the same as the stacking: on top attribute. Maybe somebody could clarify this topic for us. You are right, it is a different attribute. In e16 this window attribute can be set using eesh, e.g.: $ eesh wop Iconbox never_use_area on Unfortunately, this setting is not remembered atm. This happens to be almost the exact problem I joined the mailing list to ask about, but somehow (maybe inertia) never got around to actually posting; there is, however one difference. I'm using e16 under Debian sid, and from the first time I did so, certain windows - gkrellm and the pager - exhibited this never_use_area behaviour; then (about three months ago) I ran apt-get upgrade and suddenly the behaviour was no longer present. Does anyone have any idea as to either why the behaviour seemed to be automatic before, or what changed to cause it to cease? I can work around the problem now, by giving the above command for each desired window in my .xsession file, but I'd still rather know what happened. While I'm here: a couple of other desirable behaviours changed at the same time - notably the fact that the Switch to desktop where dialog appears setting under Pager Settings now appears to be applied to *every* window, despite the fact that that toggle is set to off. It's somewhat less aggravating than the other issue, but I'd still rather avoid it; any ideas what changed, as above, and/or how to fix it?. -- The Wanderer Warning: Simply because I argue an issue does not mean I agree with any side of it. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Setting dont-cover attribute of windows
Hello. I am using e16 on my Gentoo linux box. I would like to hove some special windows (like the pager, the iconbox and the systray) to have the dont-cover attribute set. How can it be done? Romildo --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Setting dont-cover attribute of windows
I am using e16 on my Gentoo linux box. I would like to hove some special windows (like the pager, the iconbox and the systray) to have the dont-cover attribute set. How can it be done? Alt + right-click -- set stacking -- on top --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
