Re: [e-users] Some windows insist on opening on my laptop screen

2015-08-11 Thread Wido
I think it's a java thing. I notice the same behaviour and also, they think
I have I large screen instead of 2. Is most annoying with splash screens
beeing cut in half

2015-08-11 20:47 GMT-03:00 Daniel Kasak d.j.kasak...@gmail.com:

 Hi all.

 Some applications ( java apps, and also an app of mine ) always open new
 windows on my laptop's screen, even though I launch them on a 2nd LCD
 screen. Changing the 'Window Display' policy doesn't seem to affect them.
 I'm running E19 from git, by the way.

 I have no idea what the java apps are doing, but I've noticed that with my
 app, it's only a single window affected - one with gtk+'s new header bar
 and client-side decorations. AFAIK I haven't done anything to hint that I
 want it launched in a particular location. I've looked at gtk's window
 gravity stuff etc, and there is nothing different about this window
 compared to others.

 Any ideas what's happening?

 Dan

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Re: [e-users] Some windows insist on opening on my laptop screen

2015-08-11 Thread Daniel Kasak
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
wrote:

 On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:47:50 +1000 Daniel Kasak d.j.kasak...@gmail.com
 said:

  Hi all.
 
  Some applications ( java apps, and also an app of mine ) always open new
  windows on my laptop's screen, even though I launch them on a 2nd LCD
  screen. Changing the 'Window Display' policy doesn't seem to affect them.
  I'm running E19 from git, by the way.
 
  I have no idea what the java apps are doing, but I've noticed that with
 my
  app, it's only a single window affected - one with gtk+'s new header bar
  and client-side decorations. AFAIK I haven't done anything to hint that I
  want it launched in a particular location. I've looked at gtk's window
  gravity stuff etc, and there is nothing different about this window
  compared to others.

 it;'s likely java requesting specific geometry on start. some apps (and
 toolkits do this. they THINK they know better and want to request a
 specific
 location (eg remember last one). one reason for this is windows has no
 smart
 placement itself so apps invariably are left to do their own placement to
 not
 be insanely dumbly placed. but this falls over with multiple screens
 because
 100,100 might be on another monitor depending on your screen layout.

 you can work around this by having e's remembers force the app to a
 specific
 location you want (on the current screen - so remember position, not
 screen or
 desktop).


Hi Carsten. Thanks for the response. I've tried lots of combinations of
'remember' settings, but none appear to affect where the windows are
placed. Is there a way to debug this ( remember settings ) ... eg see if an
app is being identified on startup. It's possible it's changing it's name
mid-flight or something, and so not being detected? I successfully use
'remember' settings for other apps. It just seems to be this java app that
E always places in the top-left corner of the laptop screen.

Dan
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Re: [e-users] Some windows insist on opening on my laptop screen

2015-08-11 Thread Daniel Kasak
Yeah the splash screen thing, I don't care so much about, though I guess
it's a symptom of the same issue. My main concern is this app I'm using (
it's a commerical data transformation app ... *really* old-school ... buggy
... grrr ) has a LOT of new windows open, and they *all* go to my laptop
screen, which is really annoying. Shouldn't the placement of windows be the
task of the window manager, and not the application? The app can *request*
things I guess. But a policy of ignore app requests in this respect would
be a good feature to have.

Dan

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Wido wido...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it's a java thing. I notice the same behaviour and also, they think
 I have I large screen instead of 2. Is most annoying with splash screens
 beeing cut in half

 2015-08-11 20:47 GMT-03:00 Daniel Kasak d.j.kasak...@gmail.com:

  Hi all.
 
  Some applications ( java apps, and also an app of mine ) always open new
  windows on my laptop's screen, even though I launch them on a 2nd LCD
  screen. Changing the 'Window Display' policy doesn't seem to affect them.
  I'm running E19 from git, by the way.
 
  I have no idea what the java apps are doing, but I've noticed that with
 my
  app, it's only a single window affected - one with gtk+'s new header bar
  and client-side decorations. AFAIK I haven't done anything to hint that I
  want it launched in a particular location. I've looked at gtk's window
  gravity stuff etc, and there is nothing different about this window
  compared to others.
 
  Any ideas what's happening?
 
  Dan
 
 
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Re: [e-users] Some windows insist on opening on my laptop screen

2015-08-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:47:50 +1000 Daniel Kasak d.j.kasak...@gmail.com said:

 Hi all.
 
 Some applications ( java apps, and also an app of mine ) always open new
 windows on my laptop's screen, even though I launch them on a 2nd LCD
 screen. Changing the 'Window Display' policy doesn't seem to affect them.
 I'm running E19 from git, by the way.
 
 I have no idea what the java apps are doing, but I've noticed that with my
 app, it's only a single window affected - one with gtk+'s new header bar
 and client-side decorations. AFAIK I haven't done anything to hint that I
 want it launched in a particular location. I've looked at gtk's window
 gravity stuff etc, and there is nothing different about this window
 compared to others.

it;'s likely java requesting specific geometry on start. some apps (and
toolkits do this. they THINK they know better and want to request a specific
location (eg remember last one). one reason for this is windows has no smart
placement itself so apps invariably are left to do their own placement to not
be insanely dumbly placed. but this falls over with multiple screens because
100,100 might be on another monitor depending on your screen layout.

you can work around this by having e's remembers force the app to a specific
location you want (on the current screen - so remember position, not screen or
desktop).


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[e-users] Some windows insist on opening on my laptop screen

2015-08-11 Thread Daniel Kasak
Hi all.

Some applications ( java apps, and also an app of mine ) always open new
windows on my laptop's screen, even though I launch them on a 2nd LCD
screen. Changing the 'Window Display' policy doesn't seem to affect them.
I'm running E19 from git, by the way.

I have no idea what the java apps are doing, but I've noticed that with my
app, it's only a single window affected - one with gtk+'s new header bar
and client-side decorations. AFAIK I haven't done anything to hint that I
want it launched in a particular location. I've looked at gtk's window
gravity stuff etc, and there is nothing different about this window
compared to others.

Any ideas what's happening?

Dan
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