Re: [e-users] Virtual desktops

2016-06-12 Thread The Rasterman 
On Sat, 04 Jun 2016 11:47:47 +0200 Bruno Boettcher  said:

> Hello!
> 
> I used till now still e16 (due to my inability to compile a working newer
> e... and running under debian). When developing i used a very nice feature,
> shifting the window with the compilation/simulation between 2 desktops and
> doing something else whilst beeing able to keep an eye on the activity of the
> shared window.
> 
> Now, the desktops seem completely separate, if i push my window out of my
> desktop, it doesn't appear on the next one how can i make it appear on
> the next one?
> 
> In fact, i am not really interested in separate desktops, one would be
> perfectly nice for me, but i like to split that desktop in a 3x3 matrix of
> virtual screens but i didn't find the settings to achieve that...
> 
> so any help welcome

e doesn't have any option for objects on another desktop being visible on the
current. the NxM grid is treated as NxM separate desktops where a window
belongs to one or another. switching is done by hiding and showing windows (yes
we can also do a fancy effect along the way too). that's how the desktops work.
a window is assigned to your desktop, or it's not. e's entire
desktop/screen/zone handling assumes this and when showing/hiding a desk it
does the above... so it's not a simple feature too just toss in in a few lines.

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Re: [e-users] Virtual desktops

2016-06-08 Thread Eduardo Lima (Etrunko) 
You could make your window 'Sticky', iow, visible in all desktops. Click on
the window icon (top left corner) and check the Sticky box.

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Bruno Boettcher  wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I used till now still e16 (due to my inability to compile a working newer
> e... and running under debian).
> When developing i used a very nice feature, shifting the window with the
> compilation/simulation between 2 desktops
> and doing something else whilst beeing able to keep an eye on the activity
> of the shared window.
>
> Now, the desktops seem completely separate, if i push my window out of my
> desktop, it doesn't appear on the next one
> how can i make it appear on the next one?
>
> In fact, i am not really interested in separate desktops, one would be
> perfectly nice for me, but i like to split that desktop in
> a 3x3 matrix of virtual screens but i didn't find the settings to
> achieve that...
>
> so any help welcome
>
> thanks
> --
> ciao
> bboett
>
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Re: [e-users] Virtual desktops

2016-06-08 Thread Bruno Boettcher 


Am 6. Juni 2016 01:28:12 MESZ, schrieb Simon Lees :
>
>
>On 06/04/2016 07:17 PM, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
>> Hello!
>> 
>> I used till now still e16 (due to my inability to compile a working
>newer e... and running under debian).
>> When developing i used a very nice feature, shifting the window with
>the compilation/simulation between 2 desktops 
>> and doing something else whilst beeing able to keep an eye on the
>activity of the shared window.
>> 
>> Now, the desktops seem completely separate, if i push my window out
>of my desktop, it doesn't appear on the next one
>> how can i make it appear on the next one?
>> 
>
>I use keybindings for this, dragging with the mouse generally moves to
>the next real screen if you have one.
well, i only have one screen is there a way to change the mouse behaviour?
i didn't find where

so i tryed your suggestion, either by right click on the title bar-> move by 
kbd and by 
redefining a keybinding with the action window->move [up|down|left|right].
whilst i manage to move the window by the keyboard, the keybinding action 
doesn't allow
me to quit the visible area with the window (and its way to coarse too, in 3 
clicks i went from
one side to the next... but i didn't see how to regulate that)
with the other method i had to place roughly the window, since there the 
movement is really 
thought only for fine tuning (some logarithmic time-related graininess 
would really come in handy)

but didn't work
i switched desktops, and no overlapping window i switched back... the 
window was placed again completely 
into the visible part of the desktop :(




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Re: [e-users] Virtual desktops

2016-06-05 Thread Simon Lees 


On 06/04/2016 07:17 PM, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I used till now still e16 (due to my inability to compile a working newer 
> e... and running under debian).
> When developing i used a very nice feature, shifting the window with the 
> compilation/simulation between 2 desktops 
> and doing something else whilst beeing able to keep an eye on the activity of 
> the shared window.
> 
> Now, the desktops seem completely separate, if i push my window out of my 
> desktop, it doesn't appear on the next one
> how can i make it appear on the next one?
> 

I use keybindings for this, dragging with the mouse generally moves to
the next real screen if you have one.

> In fact, i am not really interested in separate desktops, one would be 
> perfectly nice for me, but i like to split that desktop in 
> a 3x3 matrix of virtual screens but i didn't find the settings to achieve 
> that...
> 
> so any help welcome
> 
> thanks
> 

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[e-users] Virtual desktops

2016-06-04 Thread Bruno Boettcher 
Hello!

I used till now still e16 (due to my inability to compile a working newer e... 
and running under debian).
When developing i used a very nice feature, shifting the window with the 
compilation/simulation between 2 desktops 
and doing something else whilst beeing able to keep an eye on the activity of 
the shared window.

Now, the desktops seem completely separate, if i push my window out of my 
desktop, it doesn't appear on the next one
how can i make it appear on the next one?

In fact, i am not really interested in separate desktops, one would be 
perfectly nice for me, but i like to split that desktop in 
a 3x3 matrix of virtual screens but i didn't find the settings to achieve 
that...

so any help welcome

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Re: [e-users] Virtual Desktops

2005-03-02 Thread The Rasterman 
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:01:09 -0500 David Raleigh Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [e-users] Virtual Desktops

2005-02-13 Thread Oded Arbel 
On Sunday, 13 February 2005 05:30, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
 On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:53:21 -0600 Phusion [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
babbled:
  I was wondering if other X-Window managers have virtual desktops
  like enlightenment does? I like the fact that I can move my mouse
  to the left or right and into another desktop. Some window managers
  have multiple desktops, but you have to click in the bottom corner
  to go to that desktop instead of moving the mouse to the left or
  right. So are there any other window managers that do virtual
  desktops like enlightenment in that sense?

 yes. fvwm like 10+ years ago was doing the mouse to edge to flip to a
 new desktop trick. i can tell you why they dont do it today. it's
 confusing to new/novice users and amazingly confusing. sure it's
 great for power users.

Most noob oriented window managers have this feature but it is 
disabled by default. KDE at least has a feature that edge flipping 
(they call it Active Borders) is enabled only when dragging windows, 
but this is too disabled by default and only accesible under an 
Advanced section of the configuration.

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Re: [e-users] Virtual Desktops

2005-02-13 Thread Michael Hughes 
I installed the LiteStep shell on Windows so that I could have multiple 
desktops with edge flipping. I certainly would not use a desktop without 
the feature! Coming up with a default configuration which is easy to use 
initially is a worthy effort but it is vital that users be able to 
engage increasingly complex features as they become more experienced.

Realistically, Enlightenment is going to remain a power user's system 
unless the configuration utilities and documentation are dramatically 
improved and GNOME decides to return to the fold.  Newbies will stick 
with whatever their distro installed until they reach a considerable 
level of sophistication.  E is really a tool for creating custom 
desktops rather than a desktop itself.  I don't think that there is any 
way to simply load E16 and use it without learning how to edit the 
configuration files.  I doubt if E17 will be better any time soon.

I also think that edge flipping works much better with a trackball than 
with a mouse or other limited-range pointing device.  That is a pretty 
good reason for using a trackball although the main reason is that it 
doesn't wander around and bump into things.  You can put your hand on it 
without looking for it.

Mike

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Re: [e-users] Virtual Desktops

2005-02-12 Thread Thomas Coppi 
Actually, most that I know of atleast have an option of doing
something like that, eg. Xfce, FVWM, even Gnome and KDE afaik.


On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:53:21 -0600, Phusion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was wondering if other X-Window managers have virtual desktops like
 enlightenment does? I like the fact that I can move my mouse to the
 left or right and into another desktop. Some window managers have
 multiple desktops, but you have to click in the bottom corner to go to
 that desktop instead of moving the mouse to the left or right. So are
 there any other window managers that do virtual desktops like
 enlightenment in that sense?
 
 Phusion
 
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