Re: [e-users] Cannot rename directories.

2014-06-23 Thread Mark Beardsley
Thanks Mick, I did suspect the problem may have to do with running the OS from 
a LiveCD.

Mark B



On Sunday, 22 June 2014, 9:42, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
 


On Sunday 22 Jun 2014 09:08:32 Mark Beardsley wrote:
 Fully intending to kick Windows off of my PC, I have been looking at a few
 Linux distros recently. Bodhi is one and it, of course, uses Enlightenment
 as it's window manager.
 
 Running the OS - both versions 2.4 (E17) and 3.0rc1 (E19) - from live CD's
 I have found it impossible to change the name of a directory; this seems
 to hold whether I create the directory myself or attempt to alter the name
 of an existing one.

The OS is some Linux distribution, not e17 or e19, which are different 
versions of the Enlightenment desktop environment.

How exactly are you trying to change the name of a directory?  Can you give an 
example of the commands that you are running?



 Does anyone know of a cause or reason for this? Could it be the fact I am
 running from Live CD's? Might it be a permissions problem? Or maybe
 something else.

You wouldn't be able to make changes on the LiveCD filesystem, because it is a 
read only iso, but you should be able to make changes on any mounted 
filesystems on the PC that you are running the iso - as long as you are trying 
to make such changes as the same user you mounted the fs with.

e.g. running as root:

# mkdir /mnt/sda3
# mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda3
# mkdir /mnt/sda3/my_dir_1
# mv /mnt/sda3/my_dir_1 /mnt/sda3/my_dir_2

If you then tried to make changes as a different user, e.g. knoppix, you will 
find that knoppix does not have the appropriate access rights to modify the 
mounted filesystem.  Also, many LiveCDs automount filesystems as read only, so 
you could try remounting the filesystem as rw.

In any case, on an installed OS you will be able to automount the filesystem 
with rw access rights as a plain user and make changes to it, as long as you 
have installed udisks.

HTH.
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Re: [e-users] Cannot rename directories.

2014-06-23 Thread Mark Beardsley
Sorry if I caused some confusion. I did experience the problem with Bodhi - 
have not tried any other distors yet that use Enlightenment - but assumed that 
I ought to ask this question on the Enlightenement list as that was the 
component I interacted with; at least I tough so. Thanks again for any and all 
help.



On Sunday, 22 June 2014, 19:37, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
 


On Sunday 22 Jun 2014 18:36:21 Wido wrote:
 Mick, he mentioned he is using Bhodi. Bodhi 2.4 uses E17 as desktop, while
 Bodhi3 uses E19

I read the OP message as a more general problem than Bhodi - sorry if I got it 
wrong.  If this only happens with Bhodi, then Jeff should be around soon to 
offer more specific advice.

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Re: [e-users] Cannot rename directories.

2014-06-22 Thread Wido
Mick, he mentioned he is using Bhodi. Bodhi 2.4 uses E17 as desktop, while
Bodhi3 uses E19


2014-06-22 5:40 GMT-03:00 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com:

 On Sunday 22 Jun 2014 09:08:32 Mark Beardsley wrote:
  Fully intending to kick Windows off of my PC, I have been looking at a
 few
  Linux distros recently. Bodhi is one and it, of course, uses
 Enlightenment
  as it's window manager.
 
  Running the OS - both versions 2.4 (E17) and 3.0rc1 (E19) - from live
 CD's
  I have found it impossible to change the name of a directory; this seems
  to hold whether I create the directory myself or attempt to alter the
 name
  of an existing one.

 The OS is some Linux distribution, not e17 or e19, which are different
 versions of the Enlightenment desktop environment.

 How exactly are you trying to change the name of a directory?  Can you
 give an
 example of the commands that you are running?


  Does anyone know of a cause or reason for this? Could it be the fact I am
  running from Live CD's? Might it be a permissions problem? Or maybe
  something else.

 You wouldn't be able to make changes on the LiveCD filesystem, because it
 is a
 read only iso, but you should be able to make changes on any mounted
 filesystems on the PC that you are running the iso - as long as you are
 trying
 to make such changes as the same user you mounted the fs with.

 e.g. running as root:

 # mkdir /mnt/sda3
 # mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda3
 # mkdir /mnt/sda3/my_dir_1
 # mv /mnt/sda3/my_dir_1 /mnt/sda3/my_dir_2

 If you then tried to make changes as a different user, e.g. knoppix, you
 will
 find that knoppix does not have the appropriate access rights to modify the
 mounted filesystem.  Also, many LiveCDs automount filesystems as read
 only, so
 you could try remounting the filesystem as rw.

 In any case, on an installed OS you will be able to automount the
 filesystem
 with rw access rights as a plain user and make changes to it, as long as
 you
 have installed udisks.

 HTH.
 --
 Regards,
 Mick


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Re: [e-users] Cannot rename directories.

2014-06-22 Thread Mick
On Sunday 22 Jun 2014 18:36:21 Wido wrote:
 Mick, he mentioned he is using Bhodi. Bodhi 2.4 uses E17 as desktop, while
 Bodhi3 uses E19

I read the OP message as a more general problem than Bhodi - sorry if I got it 
wrong.  If this only happens with Bhodi, then Jeff should be around soon to 
offer more specific advice.

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Re: [e-users] Cannot rename directories.

2014-06-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 09:08:32 +0100 Mark Beardsley markbrd...@yahoo.co.uk said:

 Fully intending to kick Windows off of my PC, I have been looking at a few
 Linux distros recently. Bodhi is one and it, of course, uses Enlightenment as
 it's window manager.
 
 Running the OS - both versions 2.4 (E17) and 3.0rc1 (E19) - from live CD's I
 have found it impossible to change the name of a directory; this seems to
 hold whether I create the directory myself or attempt to alter the name of an
 existing one. 
 
 
 Does anyone know of a cause or reason for this? Could it be the fact I am
 running from Live CD's? Might it be a permissions problem? Or maybe something
 else.

i can't say for bodhi, but e and efl build from git on arch - renaming works. i
have never seen renaming NOT work. (i am renaming files AND dirs in $HOME on an
installation of arch onto a normal hdd etc.)

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